Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:31 AM 8/12/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine that brings it back into attention? I gather someone claims they replicated it? Is there any evidence

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-13 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 13, 2012 à 11:24 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com a écrit : Message for whack-out inventors. The record of great results from keeping it all very secret is a total disaster. Thank you for the links. From Eugene Mallove's article: Joseph Papp was a 'hero' to have brought

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 12, 2012 à 12:31 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com a écrit : I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine that brings it back into attention? I'm not sure if this was entirely

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Corey Hahn
That is one Rohner, Bob. The other Rohner, John is mass producing engines by the end of the year. PESN has probably the best condensed info out there. http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602157_Inteligentry_to_debut_at_Power-Gen/ I did not take them seriously till McKubre's endorsement. On Sun, Aug 12,

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I am having difficulty enough believing in the E-Cat and now along comes the resurrection of the Papp engine with little heat out and vast amounts of energy out as usable work. I think I will lose my mind soon if things don't coallese soon in the form of an energy balance on the Papp system. A

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
and quite some others seem to practice that sort of inspiration, or whatever that is. Dreamtime. Guenter Von: Kelley Trezise ktrez2...@ssvecnet.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:00 Sonntag, 12.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? I am having

RE: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed: Bottom line: The only videos of a continuously running engine are the old Papp ones; this conclusion was put out a few days ago to the Collective and noone has provided any links to vids showing otherwise. If anyone knows of such a video, please post the link. When I heard that McKubre

RE: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Kelly sez: Give me data or give me death. That is absolutely priceless! I think we should promote the statement... start making bumper stickers or somp'tn like that. I, too, look forward to additional data. Good solid independent data. Building a couple of prototypes would be ok too.

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I, too, look forward to additional data. Good solid independent data. Building a couple of prototypes would be ok too. Good luck with that. Bob and John do not get along:

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I am attempting to listen to John Rohner explain how his engine work sand find it to be painfully difficult. If his resume is real he has a certain brilliance but it is obvious from this video that that brilliance does not spill over into the skill of expressing oneself verbally. -

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
I forgot to add a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CNpW3r1Tc WARNING!!! it is painful to watch. - Original Message - From: Kelley Trezise ktrez2...@ssvecnet.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? I

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Aug 12, 2012, at 6:14, Corey Hahn coreyh...@gmail.com wrote: That is one Rohner, Bob. The other Rohner, John is mass producing engines by the end of the year. PESN has probably the best condensed info out there. http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602157_Inteligentry_to_debut_at_Power-Gen/ I'm

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:31:53 AM I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar. Would someone please summarize in a few sentences what has happened with the Papp machine that brings it back into attention? My understanding : I

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/ Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry John Rohner is trying to get support from Bill Clinton and Harry Reid and at the same time he wants them to crush his brother Bob using

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Chemical Engineer
Kelly, I believe the process is the same in ALL of these systems that work. Gas Ionization/Excitement, Confinement, Sparking/Arcing, Reaction. The reaction gives off additional ions to sustain the reaction without further outside energy from sparking and arcing if you control it well. I think

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
. This, I assure You, has given me some insight. So I occasionally reply to individual posters.  ) all the best Guenter Von: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:20 Sonntag, 12.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? From: Jed

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:20:11 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] John Rhoner made an all-electronic controller (per his resume he has LOTS of controller experience) -- and this is the heart of the new intelligentry/plasma engines[s]. In particular, it no longer needs the

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/08/10/9602158_Bill_Clinton_and_Harry_Reid_allegedly_supporting_Inteligentry/ Bill Clinton and Harry Reid allegedly supporting Inteligentry

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html *Tom Rohner died in March after a long and painful battle against pancreatic cancer.* ** *John and Bob survive.* Cheers: Axil On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse me, it was Friday that I visited Bob.

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread James Bowery
So, for those coming up to speed on the whole Noble Gas Engine story, an additional layer of confusion is the definition of Bob's brother. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rohnermachine.com/pageaboutus.html *Tom Rohner died in March after a long

Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp?

2012-08-12 Thread Kelley Trezise
: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is with Papp? When I visited Bob, Saturday, he said his brother died. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/08/10