I am having difficulty enough believing in the E-Cat and now along comes the 
resurrection of the Papp engine with little heat out and vast amounts of energy 
out as usable work. I think I will lose my mind soon if things don't coallese 
soon in the form of an energy balance on the Papp system. A bunch of guys 
tinkering with a thing that makes sparks and a piston jump does not impress me. 
Give me data or give me death.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jed Rothwell 


  I am having difficulty following the discussion from afar...

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