The plant can be made by many modules each one with its own control
electronics. Each module would be a box with something like 6-10
reactors inside in parallel with just one input for the water and one
output for the steam, fuel included. They would be connected to each
other so that
they can
We have known about temperature anomalies since Langmuir associated with
hydrogen plasma and Now Rossi gives us a temperature which would melt Ni
powder. My point gets back to an earlier thread regarding the hydrino being
able to permeate through the stainless Steele reactor to leak out - this
Hello group,
An English translation of a recent radio interview to Christos
Stremmenos, honorary vice-president of Defkalion Green Technologies,
retired professor at the University of Bologna and former Greek
ambassador in Italy, has finally been posted on 22passi blog:
Stremmenos: cold
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Electron annihilation doesn't produce a 1.22 MeV photon. It produces two 511
keV
photons (180 deg. apart).
I knew that. What I should have said was 1.22 MeV of energy. Which
would also be wrong since the spin energy has to go
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
It should be possible to just shut down just the individual reactor that needs
to be maintained, and swap it out. That way the entire setup doesn't need to be
shut down.
I envision them in a tight array, close to one another, each radiating a
lot of heat, like an
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Ed Storms suggests:
H-e-H -- D
The problem with this one is that the energy is all taken by the neutrino
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction#The_pep_re
action
Robin,
Yes. As far back as 1996 Mitchell Swartz
This is part of a message I posted in another forum, worth recalling here --
. . . . I mentioned that Fleischmann et al. sustained high power density and
temperatures for 2 to 3 months with many cells. There were others. Most
notably, I should have said that Focardi et al. did. That's very
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Stremmenos: cold fusion will solve many problems of humanity
http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/05/stremmenos-cold-fusion-will-solve.html
Whoa! This is must-read material. Wow.
A good translation, too.
- Jed
Would ball milling nickel in a glove box of helium produce a similar oxygen
free powder without the need for a bell jar to out gas?
From Jones:
...
... hey ... come to think of it ... you don't think that the
deuterium tank seen at one time in Rossi's setup was indicating
that he could be harvesting the ash g ? nah...
The excuse given at the time was to quench the reaction, but
think about it, do you quench fire with
The tests with the cells had been always performed in the Siena Univ.Physics
Dept.- the analytical work in many labs.
The authors are presented in alphabetical order, by tradition, otherwise
papers with multiple authors create some problems.
Nano-nickel can be manufactured by different physical
From: Jed Rothwell
* Arata made a similar breakthrough with palladium nanopowder long before
Rossi.
For the record, Arata concluded that his alloy of mostly nickel and
palladium was 10 times more active than palladium alone, in nanopowder form.
This alloy only works on a support of
On 2011-05-06 16:51, Peter Gluck wrote:
Nano-nickel can be manufactured by different physical and chemical
methods (a very complex area of research) and it seems here has Rossi
succeeded to make a breakthrough.
I'm not to what extent this could be relevant (if at all) or if this
information
Thanks, I also noticed that but tessitura is open to interpretation, it is
morphology on more levels.. If it is true than Ni has not to be prepared
or processed for being active.
I still had no time to complete the 'Rossi speak'- English dictionary.
Stremmenos speaks the same language.
Much more
You do not need to flush the ball mill with helium. Nickel resists oxidation
at ambient very well, and any surface oxide remaining will be reduced on the
first contact with hydrogen.
If this is un-activated Raney-type nickel you are milling, of course you
know to activate after ball milling,
On 2011-05-06 17:26, Peter Gluck wrote:
Thanks, I also noticed that but tessitura is open to interpretation,
it is morphology on more levels.. If it is true than Ni has not to be
prepared or processed for being active.
Yes, I think you're right. With that word he was probably referring more
Jones Beene wrote:
If the energy seen by Rossi were due to P-e-P, he could make a lot more
money selling the deuterium than providing heat ;)
... hey ... come to think of it ... you don't think that the deuterium tank
seen at one time in Rossi's setup was indicating that he could be harvesting
The Outer Limits, Final Exam about a disgruntled cold fusion scientist who
threatens to blow up a city. See:
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi709100313/
- Jed
Jones,
Ok that may apply to the major surface area and a vacuum may be necessary to
degass but Stremmenos' point about absorbing an enormous quantity of hydrogen
after heat + vacuum purifying his powder suggests that the nano pores and
defects of his micro particles as delivered remain
It's more likely the nitrogen is a problem. After all, the atmosphere
is 70% nitrogen.
T
Francis
You are barking up the wrong tree. From the last test of the 2.5 kw reactor
witnessed by the Swedes:
*Startup**. Prior to startup, the hydrogen bottle with a nominal pressure of
160 bars was connected for a short moment to the device to pressurize the
fuel container to about 25 bars.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, I also noticed that but tessitura is open to interpretation, it is
morphology on more levels.. If it is true than Ni has not to be prepared
or processed for being active.
I still had no time to complete the
Agreed but at issue seems to be the access to the smallest Casimir geometry -
my gut feeling is that the naked proton is so small already that it has the
capability to translate to fractional/relativistic scales faster than the
spatial volume can contain it provided the Casimir force is strong
Terry Blanton wrote:
It now
occurs to me that he is flowing current between these two heaters
causing a huge surplus of electrons within the Ni powder. I think
these excess electrons are the catalyzer which causes the
amplification of the heat energy. By what exact method, I am unsure;
but,
From Terry,
...
I think Rossi has one extra trick up his sleeve. I could never figure
out the electrical wiring for the heaters and why he needed the band
heater in addition to the auxiliary heater in the end pipe. It now
occurs to me that he is flowing current between these two heaters
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Agreed but at issue seems to be the access to the smallest Casimir geometry -
my gut feeling is that the naked proton is so small already that it has the
capability to translate to fractional/relativistic
A few years ago I posted about some experiments I did with PdD cells. In one
experiment which was suggested by the physics of Dewey B. Larson, I raised
the entire apparatus to -50KV over night while running the normal
electrolysis via a battery, then switched the polarity to +50KV. There were
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:54 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Of more concern to me: Wouldn't your speculation possibly result in a
very dangerous electrical problem for any human who attempted to
handle the e-cats? I'm thinking the electrical flow would would
One of the properties of Rare earth elements is their abilities to clear
trace amounts of gas from electron tube devices.
Rossi has selected a Rare earth element that acts as a getter of trace gases
to remove these gases from his reactor. This rare earth element(s) provides
ongoing on-the-fly
What Rossi has done is as follows:
Generate large amounts of H- ions using a rare earth emitter of electrons
coating the filament of his internal heater.
These rare earth elements purify the hydrogen gas by absorbing trace
contaminating gases like oxygen and nitrogen.
The nickel powder
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell
Actually, seriously, deuterium is pretty cheap ...
Really? what does it cost in Atlanta ?
...or is 'pretty cheap' more a reflection of your excellent financial health
g?
Neither heavy water nor D2 could be called a bargain out here. Online, D2O
You may now be able to accept this old post follows:
As I stated before in the Cat-E patent, Rossi ash contains no element
heavier the zinc. Rossi has stated that he does not use precious metals in
the Cat-E.
The logical conclusion is that that there is no spill over catalyst mixed in
with
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Really? what does it cost in Atlanta ?
When you are drinking single malt scotch, you should always use heavy
water ice cubes.
T
From Terry,
Of more concern to me: Wouldn't your speculation possibly result in a
very dangerous electrical problem for any human who attempted to
handle the e-cats? I'm thinking the electrical flow would would not be
insulated. Or have I misunderstood something crucial here.
Well, did you
T,
That sounds really plausible, can you expand further?
Great Insight!
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Focardi achieved considerable success in previous
Yes, this certainly seems a possibility! Let's watch the
following tests, demos and try to verify it.
Peter
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
T,
That sounds really plausible, can you expand further?
Great Insight!
Fran
-Original
Axil,
That works well with your citation regarding the pressurized
hydrogen being added to the ambient atmosphere in the last demo attended by the
Swedes. I take it
That you are conjecturing about the secret ingredient or is also there a known
getter material being used that I
A very intersting idea, we have to follow up it, as much as we can, I think.
The device works wirth H- ions
Peter
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks, I also noticed that but
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
It now occurs to me that he is flowing current between these two heaters
causing a huge surplus of electrons within the Ni powder.
OK. It could be diode or triode, and it could involve dielectric breakdown
as well. If this is a triode then it is
Axil,
I seem to recall this number of ions vs spillover cat was
challenged previously but combined with the idea Terry just introduced about
coating the heater element and an excess of electrons - you got my attention...
can you expand?
Regards
Fran
From: Axil Axil
Remember that Rossi is an expert in thermoelectric devices. He added these
thermoelectric techniques to improve Ficardi’s nickel ideas.
He says he did thousands of experiments to perfect his “secret”.
I conjecture his many experiments were trying various thermoelectric element
combinations
If memory serves, hydrogen has three ionization potentials, and these
voltages are all under 20 volts.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
wrote:
Axil,
I seem to recall this number of ions vs spillover cat was
challenged previously
I repeat: the nickel powder is only 3% or less of the volume of the reaction
chamber. It must be affixed to the stainless steel reaction vessel wall. The
grid is a thin nickel screen that is placed between the powder and the
heater filament. The grid has a positive potential and it accelerates the
From: Axil Axil
*
* I repeat: the nickel powder is only 3% or less of the volume of the
reaction chamber.
Sorry. Absolutely not. Nickel or any metal nanopowder must be supported, and
that could be the other 97% if the 3% is correct (which I doubt).
Bare metal nanopowder can
See:
http://www.emissionlabs.com/html/articles/GETTER/getter.htm
Rossi spent a year or more trying many combinations of getters and “low work
function” electron emitters in a trial and error optimization effort.
It is not possible to deduce the results of his thousands of trials.
I
Makes me wunder if applying heat is really all that necessary. ...Or
perhaps raw external heat is only necessary at first, as Rossi seems
to indicate.
The speculated implication is that it's actually the amount of
electron packing going on that is a crucial element in sustaining the
reaction.
nickel has a density of 9grams /cc
100 grams of nickel / (9 grams /cc) = 11 cc
11/1000 = 1%
where did I go wrong?
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Axil Axil
Ø
Ø I repeat: the nickel powder is only 3% or less of the volume of the
reaction
exactly!!!
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:23 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Makes me wunder if applying heat is really all that necessary. ...Or
perhaps raw external heat is only necessary at first, as Rossi seems
to indicate.
The speculated implication is that
Fran,
Nickel alone CANNOT remain oxidized in hot hydrogen. It is quickly reduced
to the metal.
Supported nickel as opposed to NiO can work in hot hydrogen, and it does
this by sharing an oxygen with the support - and thus remains partially
oxidized.
That is the only way you ever
NiO is a dielectric. When hydrogen is introduced at reactor startup, pure
nickel with many atomic holes is produced on the surface through the action
of hydrogen erosion. However, this base of the powder closest to the wall is
still NiO, a dielectric.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jones Beene
What you need to make is pure nickel with many atomic defects at the
surface. Below the surface is NiO because the hydrogen will not penetrate to
the very bottom of the NiO layer.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Fran,
Nickel alone CANNOT remain
There is no mistake in your numbers, so far .. but ..
As you may know, I think Rossi is deliberately seeding the internet
discussions with packets of disinformation, since he does not want
replication. I think that you and many others on vortex trust him too much,
and I do not.
Therefore,
Rossi says that many elements beside nickel will work. The patent says that
Copper will work also. The reason: it is the atomic holes that produce the
reaction in a transition metal. It is these holes that are the active
nuclear sites. The support is the oxide of that metal whatever it is. This
I have no problem with that characterization.
However, it is the dimension of the holes that matters most, apparently.
This can explain why nickel-palladium alloy works so much better than
palladium in Arata experiments. There is a slight difference in the
inter-atomic spacing, which may not
The new version is at
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v332.php
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v332.pdf -- page feeds
haven't been updated, so it's a bit messy
Main changes: I've restructured it into three classes of fakes
a) Fixed-Energy b) Unlimited Energy and c)
My mental model of the Rossi process is as follows:
The H- ions are formed close to the surface of the internal heaters filament
when an electron is emitted from the filament and ionizes and splits
hydrogen (H2) into H-.
The H- has a negative charge. It is accelerated by a wire grid charged
The NiO can be made to stick to the walls of a stainless steel surface (SSS)
as follows:
Heat this coated SSS to just under melting temperature (say about 1375C).
Spray 100 grams of the NiO ceramic nano-powder onto the SSS using an
electrostatic spray gun which accelerates the NiO particle
Terry/Steven,
Excellent out of the box thinking!
So we've got a little particle accelerator inside this thing as well! We not
going to let the H
slowly migrate its way in, we're going to smash it in! I.e., we're too
impatient to just let
electrochemistry take its course or wait for adsorption
Yes -which dovetails nicely with Terry's triode !
Fran
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Fri, 06 May 2011 13:24:15 -0700
Makes me wunder if applying heat is really all that necessary. ...Or
perhaps raw external heat is only necessary at first, as Rossi seems
to indicate.
The
On 2011-05-06 23:55, Axil Axil wrote:
[...] This is standard powder coating technology. The SSS will be very soft
and the NiO powder will sink into the SSS. The NiO powder will remain
strong and intact on the hot surface and will not melt until the
temperature of 2000C is reached
Do you think
Do we have a shot of the oscilloscope screen during pre-ignition phase and
steady-state phase?
I remember stopping the video on the scope screen, and trying to read the
timebase, but no go...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, May
This TGIF quip may appeal only to a few EEs, hams, and assorted wire-heads
as half-serious-humor, but think about Rossi in the context of being one
gigantically large semiconductor transistor in which the current which
passed creates more heat on emitter than it should :-)
Have a great weekend...
-Original Message-
From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 3:16 PM
Do you think that standard automotive catalytic converter manufacturing
processes could apply in the case of the E-Cat? Somehow, I...
Hi,
On 6-5-2011 6:02, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Though I don't know of any off hand, I imagine that there are garden hose type
connections available for this sort of thing.
I think you are referring to so-called QD (Quick Disconnect) connectors,
which are also used for glove-boxes etc. in
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v333.php
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v333.pdf
The main surprise of redoing the calculations is that the April test
can't even rule out a Water Storage fake.
I added a summary table to the conclusion section.
As I understand it the temp Rossi claims to have measured are beyond the
melting point of Ni and just barely under NiO which as Jones pointed out
can't persist in a hydrogen atmosphere, Axil's spray coat of the reactors
inner wall sounds similar to the sputtering applied to the inside of the
MAHG
One might get really good results chilling the nickel down with liq N2. Brittle
things grind better. They even grind tires and plastic this way.
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:50:06 -0400
From: francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:cheap ball mill / glove box alternative to Bell
Particle accelerator or Bipolar junction transistor - is there an
emergent meme in cyber space?
This TGIF quip may appeal only to a few EEs, hams, and assorted wire-heads
as half-serious-humor, but think about Rossi in the context of being one
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