Re: [Vo]:A bit more, from Hiddink...

2009-06-21 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/6/21 mix...@bigpond.com: In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:33:26 +0200: Hi, [snip] PPS I still don't see how a plasma can support charge on its surface, anyone can enlighten me on this? [snip] That's the one thing that doesn't surprise me in the least. Surely,

Re: [Vo]:New drill to make geothermal easier

2009-06-21 Thread David Jonsson
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to David Jonsson's message of Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:48:21 +0200: Hi David, [snip] The magma is hot becasue it is pressurised. This is not the only reason it is hot. There is also *at least* radioactive decay. (And perhaps

[Vo]:Alternatives to the divergence theorem and Greens theorem

2009-06-21 Thread David Jonsson
Hi It is known that a surface integral of something around a volume can be equal to a volume integral. I wonder if someone has worked with the volume outside. Imagine a ball in air. The airdrag on it is typically calculated by integrating the force over its area. An equivalent would be to

[Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf Why aren't we doing this here, or even talking about it? Answer: the natural gas lobby is rich and

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Terry Blanton
CUTE and CRIEPI? On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf Why

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf Why aren't we doing this here, or even talking

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
This article describes a Japanese heat pump to heat water, which reduces gas consumption by 30% compared to a natural gas fired heater. That's pretty good. It might find a market in urban areas or for large buildings, which is what the prototype in the article appears to show. However, for most

Re: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Speaking of how politics and energy overlap... Here is a supercritical way that the DoE could reduce natural gas usage significantly: http://www.r744.com/knowledge/faq/files/ecocute_all.pdf The heat pump is run by electricity. Right now

[Vo]:Dateline: 2013

2009-06-21 Thread Chris Zell
There are many reasons why the dollar and the US economy collapsed in 2013.  Historians offer many opinions on the chain of events that led to the Federal government defaulting on its debt.  However, one factor is widely agreed upon:  The sudden emergence of Cold Fusion  - while hailed as

Re: [Vo]:Dateline: 2013

2009-06-21 Thread Edmund Storms
Nicely done and very near the truth, but with this additional information that recently came to light. Further analysis reveals that the first use of cold fusion was in China where it helped the government off set the collapse in the dollar in 2010 by reducing the country's use of oil.

RE: [Vo]:beyond critical

2009-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner The heat pump is run by electricity. Right now electric energy costs about 3 times as much as gas, so a 30 percent energy improvement is not much economically speaking. Yes and no. If gas were not a limited resource, in effect controlled by

[Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-21 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Michel Jullian wrote: Assuming for a moment the plasma was actually holding excess electrons, why wouldn't they just fly to the inside of the glass envelope, which is of course positively charged, and remain stuck on that dielectric? This would result in a larger capacitor

Re: [Vo]:Smoke Ring?

2009-06-21 Thread William Beaty
Those kinds of smoke rings are fairly common. The smoke is trapped in the narrow core of a much larger ring-vortex. It's laminar, otherwise the smoke would appear as a whirling cloudy structure. I heard that some local guys ten years ago set off a homemade gasoline bomb in a parking lot.

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-21 Thread John Berry
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Michel Jullian wrote: Assuming for a moment the plasma was actually holding excess electrons, why wouldn't they just fly to the inside of the glass envelope, which is of course positively charged,

[Vo]:Energy generating variable capacitor

2009-06-21 Thread John Berry
Reposted and revised version of the introduction to this idea for those who missed it. I like to make correlations to pick threads of truth out of the noise. I believe I have found one that IMO seems to give an almost complete and certain engineerable Free Energy effect, I believe that unlike

Re: [Vo]:A bit more, from Hiddink...

2009-06-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:08:15 +0200: Hi, [snip] Assuming for a moment the plasma was actually holding excess electrons, why wouldn't they just fly to the inside of the glass envelope, which is of course positively charged, and remain stuck on that dielectric?

Re: [Vo]:New drill to make geothermal easier

2009-06-21 Thread mixent
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:33:08 +0200: Hi, [snip] Measuring an adiabatic gradient is not easy and doing it on location below the crust seems impossible. Temperatures at various depths in oil wells? Corect, I also did that initially, and that is the method used

Re: [Vo]:A bit more, from Hiddink...

2009-06-21 Thread John Berry
It's not so much seeing a reason for it to occur as i tend not to either as much as there is evidence that it DOES in fact occur when the conditions are met. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:08:15 +0200: Hi,

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:43 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: Metal is to plastic, as salt-water is to ice. Saltwater is a