Is the power input measurement correct ? I saw a clamp amp-meter only on the
blue wire. But there are 3 wires and who can assert that the one supposed to
be grounded, is not connected to another power source ?
2011/5/3 Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de
wasn't it 350 Watt? It is also a bit
In reply to Angela Kemmler's message of Tue, 03 May 2011 06:35:41 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
wasn't it 350 Watt? It is also a bit strange that he talks about two heating
resistors. Maybe the second one was switched off. I do not understand why
Rossi heats his reactor chamber with an external heater
In reply to Angela Kemmler's message of Tue, 03 May 2011 06:20:48 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
But doing this, all the calculations of Mats Lewan are garbage. And, it would
be a sort of fraud against the journalist, not telling him that.
If the test were done properly all quantities would be continuously
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/02/rumor-of-nasa-replication-attempt-of-rossi-is-false/
Harry
In reply to Angela Kemmler's message of Tue, 03 May 2011 06:25:50 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
@Robin: there is also another error: Levi said, that the device was heated
with 600-700 W (his words). In reality, the value was much higher. Over 1 kW.
That's more than 40% error, always in favor of the
Axil,
Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir
theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths
which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of
the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de wrote:
wasn't it 350 Watt? It is also a bit strange that he talks about two heating
resistors.
My problem is that there is no Vreturn for the external heater (no
ground) unless somehow the copper pipe is ground.
T
I would expect the required heating and therefore the current measured by the
amp meter to decline as the reactor reached a stable thermal balance between
PWM and the extraction rate allowing Rossi to use a slightly narrower pulse
and more residual heat to cause disassociation.
Fran
From:
Harry,
I have been trying to run down any word on the NASA replication and
found your citation encouraging even if not based on the Rossi E-cat. The W-L
replication will still puts NASA in the business of building a Ni-H reactor
with 1st class bullet proof instrumentation and
Hi,
On 2-5-2011 18:22, Jones Beene wrote:
In addition to that, and possibly far more relevant to the experimenter -
you have the Sun's rotation- or should I say double rotation. The core of
the sun rotates at a different rate than its surface, and it works out to
every 33 days. The solar core
Funny Krivit did not mention the stated source of the post: EVworld ... and
the crux of this boils down to my interpretation of that interview, not a
rumor. EVworld is e-zine with more credibility than his own, and they
scooped him on this story big time - but apparently he is reluctant to take
From: noone noone
*
* The natural isotope ratio issue is not an issue at all.
Of course it is an issue. IT IS THE MAIN ISSUE as to the identity of the
type of reaction.
* Copper was found. There is no source of copper inside the reactor other
than transmutations.
Wrong.
And dark matter is seasonal:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20434-second-experiment-hints-at-seasonal-dark-matter-signal.html
T
Correct me if I have misunderstood the most important relevant facts
being debated here, but I believe Jones is making a strong claim that
the percentages of isotopes allegedly found distributed throughout the
copper found within one of Rossi's used e-cats clearly indicates that
the Rossi-effect
down to 4,4 kW.
I agree, one needs to be careful, with the input power in the early
experiment
(and perhaps all of them?). The graph went up and down quite a bit, so one
should really do a separate calculation for each segment then add them all
up.
look here Robin:
No, you seem to worship Randall Mills of Black Light Power and seem to be on
this forum for one purpose, to push an anti-Rossi agenda.
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 6:22:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Let us
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not?
You probably recall a test that was done on implants and some material
which fell through the roof in Ufology. That test was an isotope
ratio test. The claim was that elements originating
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
No, you seem to worship Randall Mills of Black Light Power and seem to be on
this forum for one purpose, to push an anti-Rossi agenda.
Actually, Jones is quite skeptical of RandEll's theories. That
doesn't mean Dr.
That's the mini supernova argument. We don't know what's inside the reactor,
but we know it doesn't resemble a supernova, so we are obliged to assume that
any copper found is just regular copper that migrated. It's way too fanciful to
assume otherwise at this point.
Sent from my iPhone.
Here is an implication of the story:
The detector they use comprises a 440-gram crystal of germanium... dark
matter is so abundant that 100 million particles of it are expected to pass
through the CoGeNT detector every second...
OK - Terry may be imagining the same thing that I am - that if dark
From Terry:
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not?
You probably recall a test that was done on implants and some material
which fell through the roof in Ufology. That test was an isotope
ratio test. The claim was that
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Yeah, yeah, we know what the nuclear fizicists will say on the matter.
What do they know. ;-)
Well that's it, isn't it ... what do the experts know? Of course, one can throw
all of nuclear physics out the door, but why?
Ask
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Leading one to wonder ... hmmm ... if perhaps spillover hydrogen captured
in a nickel matrix is that sought-after antenna for dark matter.
And if dark matter is actually a hydrino with the electron teetering
on the brink
T,
I agree and if there were stronger evidence of the relationship between
Casimir effect and catalytic action I
Think Mills would have had a shot at a patent - He claims a different
extraction method than my MAHG like scenario or the H-M method with noble gas
but that doesn't mean it
But this is fission, the opposite of elemental creation. All the
same, more evidence for non-homogeneous isotopic distribution.
T
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
A different theory:
http://ow.ly/4M7VL
mic
Jones,
Is dark matter another label for ether that surges with ebbs and flows that
3D beings cannot perceive except by relativistic measure? And even then only by
difference in scaling factors between frames since at the macro scale the ebb
and flow is homogenous? Do differences in energy
So I wonder what *Natural* isotopic abundance means? Is it an
average? Over which part of the universe?
Natural is keyword in food marketing, but here? :-)
mic
2011/5/3 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
But this is fission, the opposite of elemental creation. All the
same, more evidence for
Hi Jones,
Yeah, yeah, we know what the nuclear fizicists will say on
the matter.
What do they know. ;-)
Well that's it, isn't it ... what do the experts know? Of
course, one can throw all of nuclear physics out the door,
but why?
I'm certainly not arguing that we throw present knowledge
BTW reading on the numbers you will see that Ni in the crust is
disappearing! We must start burning it before is too late! ;-)
mic
2011/5/3 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com:
So I wonder what *Natural* isotopic abundance means? Is it an
average? Over which part of the universe?
-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X
Is dark matter another label for ether
Possibly it is a different aspect of it. Too bad that you were not around to
enjoy some of Frank Grimer's aether musings a few years back... He has a
hierarchical aether theory that could fit in very
in our case, natural is a reference to whats found on earth, yes no?
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
So I wonder what *Natural* isotopic abundance means? Is it an
average? Over which part of the universe?
Natural is keyword in food
www.rainews24.rai.itit/canale-tv.php?id=23074
www.rainews24.rai.it/canale-tv.php?id=23074
2011/5/3 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com:
www.rainews24.rai.itit/canale-tv.php?id=23074
Mats Lewan sent an e-mail message to me saying he regrets making a mistake
measuring power. He sent another message to Steve Krivit explaining the
problem in more detail, here:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/LewanInvestigates.shtml
The part about power says QUOTE:
I personally did
On 2011-05-03 18:47, Michele Comitini wrote:
www.rainews24.rai.it/canale-tv.php?id=23074
I've watched the video, and uninformed viewers (regarding recent E-Cat
developments) can't possibly get a good impression with all the inserts
about Rossi's old Petroldragon affair. The message I
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell
There is no helium here, no tritium and no radioactivity, and NO non-natural
isotopic distribution, so how could it be nuclear?
JR: How do you know there is no helium, tritium or radioactivity here?
As I said stated: from the best available
Jones Beene wrote:
Perhaps it would have been best to call NASAs effort an experiment which is
similar to the Mills/Thermacore/Focardi/Piantelli/Rossi line of experiments
using nickel nanomaterials and catalysts (which are possibly unique) and
somewhat 'like Rossi' but not identical - but that
IMHO The video on Petroldragon affair, makes confusion between the
fact that there was a *huge* problem with toxic garbage handling and
the fact that
the process for oil production was indeed possible or not.
mic
2011/5/3 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com:
On 2011-05-03 18:47, Michele
Jones Beene wrote:
JR: How do you know there is no helium, tritium or radioactivity here?
As I said stated: from the best available evidence - which is the Swedish
isotopic analysis and the spectrographs in the patent.
I would say the best available is hardly adequate for anything. So far,
Jones sez:
...
My working hypothesis as of May 3, is that spillover
hydrogen is formed catalytically, at a threshold temperature
and collects in Nickel nanopores, gaining thermal energy
from an unknown source at very close to the Curie point of
the nickel. It is that simple. The reaction is
I've heard He is hard to detect, but leak detectors are portable and quite
common and sound simple enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_mass_spectrometer
Maybe they're really really expen$ive or have other problems.
Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
-Original Message-
http://mail.aol.com/33646-111/aol-6/en-us/Suite.aspx
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Is Frank Znidarsic onto something or am I being trolled?
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I wrote:
Tritium is easy to detect, but only if you try to detect it. As far as I
know, no one has. Also, you cannot detect it if it is allowed to escape from
the cell into the air. You would have to open the cell carefully in a
controlled environment to capture it.
I should have said vent
I wrote:
It does have only one gas connection. I do not know if the stopcocks are
adequate for the job.
As opposed to an electrochemical cell which typically leaks out of several
holes and the lid, or an Arata DS-cathode which has no holes at all. McKubre
had to design a tool to puncture the
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Possibly it is a different aspect of it. Too bad that you were not around to
enjoy some of Frank Grimer's aether musings a few years back... He has a
hierarchical aether theory that could fit in very well to the Rossi
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Alexander Hollins
alexander.holl...@gmail.com wrote:
in our case, natural is a reference to whats found on earth, yes no?
In nature.
T
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mats Lewan sent an e-mail message to me saying he regrets making a mistake
measuring power. He sent another message to Steve Krivit explaining the
problem in more detail, here:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I have been asking where the reactor heater return (earth) is. There
is only the one red cable. How is that steel heater grounded?
Could they be intentionally floating the device?
Yes, tell me why Carbon 13 is more common than Carbon 12 in some parts of
the Universe. This was discovered by the Swedish Satellite Odin.
David
David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I have been asking where the reactor heater return (earth) is. There
is only the one red cable. How is that steel heater grounded?
Could they be intentionally floating the
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:14 PM, David Jonsson
davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, tell me why Carbon 13 is more common than Carbon 12 in some parts of
the Universe. This was discovered by the Swedish Satellite Odin.
Because you are looking into the past when you measure electromagnetic
Jones,
Frank G liked my post on 'Next Big Future' and made a reference to Beta
ether in his reply which, at the time, was meaningless to me but I have since
been picking up little bits and pieces of it... so yes if Terry has some
citations or synopsis of Beta Ether please paste it here or as a
The big red cable of the external resistor contains 2 teflon insulated wires
2011/5/3 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I have been asking where the reactor heater return
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell
At this point in time, Rossi's statements, efforts or 'clues' can be argued
to be almost immaterial to further progress in the USA, since nothing he says
can be trusted.
JR ... I see no evidence that he cannot be trusted. Frankly, you seem to
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Andrea Selva
andreagiuseppe.se...@gmail.com wrote:
The big red cable of the external resistor contains 2 teflon insulated wires
Can you tell me where you see that?
Thanks!
T
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
It does have only one gas connection. I do not know if the stopcocks are
adequate for the job.
The ECat in the reporter's video actually has two H valves of different types.
T
It's a standard electrical band heater.
Time ago i saw the link to the manifacturer here on vortex.
I'm to lazy to find it again but I'm sure you can do the search by yourself
2011/5/3 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Andrea Selva
He was never a scammer. You are intentionally twisting the entire history.
Everything you post on this forum has an anti-Rossi slant. You will even make
the most illogical of technical comments just to spread FUD about the Rossi
technology. It seems like you are pandering to Randall Mills, who
In Europe you may find quite often a power outlet (wall outlet) without earth
contact, so, this contact is not necessary. You find extension cords with only
two wires. The third (earth) contact has only the purpose to protect you. In
Germany you find often a particular fuse interrupting the
Found the link http://www.extrusioncontrol.com/heaters.html
2011/5/3 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Andrea Selva
andreagiuseppe.se...@gmail.com wrote:
The big red cable of the external resistor contains 2 teflon insulated
wires
Can you tell me where you
Jones Beene wrote:
Then you are essentially blind to his past misdeeds, and essentially pandering,
as I have said repeatedly.
You have said it, but you have not demonstrated how he might fool a
thermocouple or make a flow of water seem to be many times faster than
it is. Machines do not
Jones writes:
Here is a sanitized version of the story cleansed by LTI, but the true grit is
worse than this
sounds. Bottom of Page 5 is where it gets interesting:
http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo%282004%29.pdf
Frankly, I'd prefer to read the unsanitized 'true grit'! Its
Terry Blanton wrote:
The ECat in the reporter's video actually has two H valves of different types.
I noticed that. That's what I was thinking about. I don't know a thing
about them, but the ones used by Miles and Mizuno to study the gas are
uniform and they look like they are of higher
On 2011-05-03 18:47, Michele Comitini wrote:
www.rainews24.rai.it/canale-tv.php?id=23074
Here's three interesting video screenshots, from comments on 22passi
blog [1]:
1: http://i.imgur.com/RaBOI.jpg
2: http://i.imgur.com/uiPRH.jpg
3: http://i.imgur.com/zDziy.jpg
It appears they come from
Regarding the latest on-going spat between Jed Jones
...
Jed recently sed:
... I suggest you [Jones] treat this more like a scientific discussion and
less like a legal proceedings, what with the best available evidence ...
It's my understanding that Mr. Beene was at one time a lawyer.
Just to clarify, Mark Iverson wrote:
Jones writes:
Here is a sanitized version of the story cleansed by LTI, but the true grit is
worse than this
sounds. Bottom of Page 5 is where it gets interesting:
http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo%282004%29.pdf
Frankly, I'd prefer to
I said:
Perhaps its because Rossi hadn't given them the proper recipe for making the
TE devices?
Let me explain a bit more...
I've been following (and occasionally helping) with a colleague's company that
has carbon-based
photovoltaic cells that are consistently getting 40% more power than
Mark,
Interesting story, and maybe it is a premonition of what the lame excuse
from Rossi will be if there is no megawatt demo in October.
Rothwell can whine, hem, and haw all day about how he believes in his
heart-of-hearts that the sordid TEG business with LTI was not a true scam,
but since
Hi Jones!
I guess at this point my impression of how Rossi optimized the effect is more
akin to how Edison
discovered what material to use for filaments -- painstakingly long process of
trial and error!
When you don't have a theoretical model from which to design, TE is about your
only option.
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jones sez:
My working hypothesis as of May 3, is that spillover hydrogen is
formed catalytically, at a threshold temperature and collects in
Nickel nanopores, gaining thermal energy from an unknown source at
very close to the
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:03:44 -0700
[snip] ...but AFAIK gas motion is not primarily ZPE driven. It's just the
thermal
energy of the molecules. So the implication would seem to be that as the
energy
was extracted, the gas would get colder, until it reached
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 18:16:11 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Maybe the worry is not a future nickel shortage ... so much as good old H2O.
Since you are into the SciFi scene - you know the plot of a future problem
that pops up on occasion - lack of water. This came up as a major
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