- Original Nachricht
Von: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 18.11.2011 06:56
Betreff: RE: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR)
Mary stated,
In other words, they don't believe Rossi either, on the evidence that he's
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Because he is now selling, evidence /must/ turn up /soon/, if there is
evidence.
I think what we know is that he *says* he's selling. We have, far as I
know, no direct credible evidence that he has ever sold an E-cat. Nobody
Rossi is not the only show in town. There is good promise that there will
be a hand full of other LENR events that will hold our interest over the
winter. Rossi is just one of many interesting LENR players that are in the
offing. First off, I am interested in what Brian Ahern of Ames National
- Original Nachricht
Von: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 18.11.2011 09:09
Betreff: Re: [Vo]: UK's DECC Monitoring the sector (LENR)
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Because he is now selling, evidence
You really know how to cause injury to someone.
-Original Message-
From: Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 1:55 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.
All I can say is that you have an uncanny
Scientists create light from vacuum
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html
Is this new? this demo of the dynamical Casimir effect was done in the
recent past.I remember.
- Original Nachricht
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 18.11.2011 09:53
Betreff: [Vo]:Scientists create light from vacuum
Scientists create light from vacuum
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html
Is this
I'm sorry, I corrected the error
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 04:10 PM 11/17/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: ..
There's a zero missing somewhere :
*WHO IS THE CUSTOMER?*Customer's spokesman,*Domenico Fioravanti*, retired
colonel of the Genio,
http://www.greenme.it/approfondire/interviste/6255-fusione-fredda-e-cat-intervista-focardi
in writing, as one can understand from one of the answers
More evidence of a big scam, HUGE! :-
On 2011-11-18 04:37, Terry Blanton wrote:
Check this link from their main site:
http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1833
they are watching us! LOL!
I'm quoting the message from the comment section below for the sake of
clarity. They're indeed watching!
Citi5Fund Moderator 10 hours ago
Note to
Moving into acceptance? Seems to me that governments are taking the same policy
of Cude, Yugo, and Park.
On Nov 18, 2011, at 0:09, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
I never said they DID believe Rossi. This has nothing to do with Rossi, this
sector refers to LENR in general where
From Jwinter:
...
But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a
megawatt. And it's market ready.
Well, I must confess a personal opinion that I suspect Steorn is not
dead yet! ;-)
However, regarding Rossi's ecats.
Assuming one of the most positive Polly-Anna scenarios
See:
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3347150.ece
I consider this DECC response as the safe one. They apparently know that
cold fusion devices such as Rossi's may actually work, but they are afraid to
be considered stupid if it turns out to be a scam. The skeptics have done a
good job of scaring upper level government employees. The day of
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From Jwinter:
...
But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a
megawatt. And it's market ready.
Well, I must confess a personal opinion that I suspect Steorn is not
dead
Mary, you're doing many things on target, to reduce other players to the
level of having nothing to respond with except ad hominem retorts...
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:46 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
You really know how to cause injury to someone.
-Original Message-
Interesting statement:
But because there are powerful forces who want to argue that it’s all
about fraud, we will make one or more of the following to prove our
honesty.
T
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
You used a thermodynamic argument in one location to reject a measurement
at a different location. This is a rejection of a measurement based on
an implausibility,
rather than on deficiencies of the instrumentation.
Actually, we are getting bored by her continued repetition of the same old
arguments so we are resorting to the same methods. She needs to come up with
new complaints to air if she is really serious.
Why do we have to keep repeating the same lines just to keep her old points
alive? I have
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi's reaction might be boiling water by
removing cold, rather than by adding heat.
OK, I can see this is a waste of time.
As Josh walks
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary, you're doing many things on target, to reduce other players to the
level of having nothing to respond with except ad hominem retorts...
Ad hominem? LOL! You wanna see ad hominem? Go read some transactions here:
Most if not all of the arguments that you are making are based upon
speculation. Both sides of this discussion are not privy to the data required
to prove their points. Let me make a suggestion to you guys.
Is it possible for you to list your one major issue and not a dozen as here?
If you
now, now, Rich, don't be silly. Just because Mary is obviously a shut-in
with nothing else to do but write the same superficial drivel on every blog
devoted to this topic, over and over again, and just because people just
stop wasting their time answering her, that does not mean she is winning
the
see -- you start with a big ad hominem blast, full of pure speculations to
justify ignoring Mary's cogent points, which have many times advanced my
own thinking, such as the possibly of financial fraud based on secretly
accepting cash from credulous investors who sign iron clad nondisclosure
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
As Josh walks away shaking his head, I'll just say, on behalf of
Harry, that this is exactly what P.A.M. Dirac discovered in his famous
energy equations: [...]
So, let me ask you: If the temperature of the output
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
So, let me ask you:
I have made my personal position on Rossi's turning water into whine
very clear several months ago. I find all this chatter just so much
pink noise.
T
The October 28, 2011 test of the Rossi 1 MW LENR system was either a success or
a failure depending upon your point of view. The skeptics have decided to
totally disregard the test results without allowing the ECAT any reasonable
chance of success. What would you expect for them to do?
This post is completely out of touch with reality. Who has ever claimed
anything about dry steam and Rossi's device at 90 C? Why not discuss the real
world instead of dreamland?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent:
financial fraud based on secretly accepting cash from credulous investors
who sign iron clad nondisclosure secrecy agreements and remain silent
after they have been swindled because they are too ashamed, or something.
Sure. That is about as good a scam hypothesis as I can come up with.
However, it
They won't reveal their contract with Rossi. I wonder why. Maybe they
paid him?
And this comment: *NyT: There is great skepticism about Rossi’s
technology. How do comment on that?
* Holm: “Until he makes an independent test, there is obviously a small
chance that it does not work. We are
Why are you dazzled by a test in which results were never verified by any
credible and known independent observers? Even though there was more than
a dozen invited guests there who could have done so? And could you explain
why a test of a large machine is necessary or helpful when it's composed
Am 18.11.2011 16:11, schrieb Terry Blanton:
Interesting statement:
But because there are powerful forces who want to argue that it’s all
about fraud, we will make one or more of the following to prove our
honesty.
Honesty is already proven.
They have never seen it and say it is highly
I guess that I am easy to dazzle. Rossi explained the reason for the secrecy,
and I believe him. And finally, I did see proof that the small units work as
advertised.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18,
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:16 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Actually, we are getting bored by her continued repetition of the same old
arguments so we are resorting to the same methods
It's not boring but it is certainly amazing and amusing that people keep
counting chickens
Steorn is not stating anything about the input power requirements for their
HephaHeat product in that product's web pages. The personal communication
about 1kW was made regarding a FaceBook video of a device that might be
construed to be related but is not claimed to be related by the Steorn
New results show neutrinos still faster than light
01:09 18 November 2011 by Lisa Grossman
One of the most staggering results in physics – that neutrinos may go
faster than light – has not gone away with two further weeks of
observations. The researchers behind the jaw-dropping finding are now
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
However, it does not fit the available information, which seems to indicate
that Rossi is refusing investments because he wants to maintain control.
Really? How do you know? Do you have Rossi's word on it? What
not investing for two basic reasons
- I have no money, hence I cannot benefit from your generous laying out of
your life to protect the rich and stupid
- Daniele Passerini, whom I could go through to invest, has stated that
Rossi refused to take money from willing investors
I'd also like to note
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
More evidence of a big scam, HUGE! :-
It's not evidence of anything. It's a dreadfully dull interview with
nothing but softball questions. There's not a single difficult or
important issue which was addressed in
Am 18.11.2011 17:41, schrieb David Roberson:
I guess that I am easy to dazzle. Rossi explained the reason for the
secrecy, and I believe him. And finally, I did see proof that the
small units work as advertised.
My domestic 10kW gasboiler is in any case better proven than the e-cat.
It works
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
At the same time Rossi says on his forum he has sold 13 1MW plants to an
secret military organisation in a secret country.
If he continues to sell so sucessfully, then he cannot fulfill a delivery
time of 3 months.
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:49 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Steorn is not stating anything about the input power requirements for
their HephaHeat product in that product's web pages. The personal
communication about 1kW was made regarding a FaceBook video of a device
that might
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
not investing for two basic reasons
- I have no money, hence I cannot benefit from your generous laying out of
your life to protect the rich and stupid
Many people who contributed money now lost to the scams I named
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
The October 28, 2011 test of the Rossi 1 MW LENR system was either a
success or a failure depending upon your point of view. The skeptics
have decided to totally disregard the test results without allowing the
ECAT
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
Am 18.11.2011 17:41, schrieb David Roberson:
My domestic 10kW gasboiler is in any case better proven than the e-cat.
Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application that he
had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H
Rossi's machine has been shown to work to me. It has been discussed on many
occasions which you do not accept. So, I guess we should realize that there is
not possible compromise except for the future ahead.
We all know that the skeptics believe that Rossi may be scammingleave it at
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, because no one can explain:
(1) why is the temperature so stable, requiring power stability of 1%
(2) how does he get an 8-fold increase in power transfer in a few minutes,
if the first-fold power increase took
Terry, and/or Harry, and/or others who may remember 'compreture' ...
Rossi's reaction might be boiling water by
removing cold, rather than by adding heat.
OK, I can see this is a waste of time.
This comes up on Vortex from time to time and it is far from a waste of
time. Formerly, Frank
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
This post is completely out of touch with reality. Who has ever claimed
anything about dry steam and Rossi's device at 90 C? Why not discuss the
real world instead of dreamland?
I did discuss reality. I said it is
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Rossi's machine has been shown to work to me. It has been discussed on
many occasions which you do not accept. So, I guess we should realize that
there is not possible compromise except for the future ahead.
We all
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I put a smiley there to alert people like Mary, who seldom carefully read
the posts of others before spouting out a new dose of ignorance ...
My understanding was that ad hominems are frowned upon and precluded from
this
Am 18.11.2011 18:11, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de
mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
At the same time Rossi says on his forum he has sold 13 1MW
plants to an secret military organisation in a secret country.
If he
Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application
that he had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H *fusion* heater heating his factory in
N. Italy for more than a year. Unfortunately, nobody but Rossi has
ever reported seeing it . . .
That is incorrect. Focardi and many
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application that
he had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H *fusion* heater heating his factory in N. Italy
for more than a year. Unfortunately, nobody but
Am 18.11.2011 18:58, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application
that he had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H *fusion* heater heating his factory in
N. Italy for more than a year. Unfortunately, nobody but Rossi has
ever reported seeing it .
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi has reported several times and it's in his patent application that
he had a 35 kW E-cat Ni-H *fusion* heater heating his factory in N. Italy
for more than a year. Unfortunately, nobody but
I do not know where to begin. There is at least as much speculation in the
response as I used to explain what was a likely scenario.
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
The October 28, 2011 test of the Rossi 1 MW LENR system was either a success or
I already did. Do you need clarification?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Vo] : ECAT 1 MW System-Dazzle or Fizzle
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Joshua Cude
Mary Yugo wrote:
That is incorrect. Focardi and many other people reported seeing
it, including several people I know.
Anyone independent of Rossi?
They are as independent of him as I am. None of them work for him, and
none are in business relationships as far as I know. Focardi
Personally, I like the 18 hr water heating only run done in February. Seems
good to me.
I'd like the hard core skeptics (e.g. Mary, Joshua Rich) to go away and leave us poor believers
to our delusions.
Ron
--On Friday, November 18, 2011 11:41 AM -0500 David Roberson
dlrober...@aol.com
OK, I see your reason for the post. Well, did you consider that the
measurement device could have actually shown that result? No one can be sure
as to exactly what it is reading under the test conditions. I personally would
agree with you
that it is hard to believe that such an increase
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
That is incorrect. Focardi and many other people reported seeing it,
including several people I know.
Anyone independent of Rossi?
They are as independent of him as I am. None of them work for
Fun it is. But you must realize that saying something does not make it so.
Why should both sides of this discussion have to repeat or shout their
positions over and over? Lets try to discuss the technical details on
occasions instead of the scamming part of things. It is much more
This one is for you to explain. You always complain about the lack of
data. If you think about the system long enough, I am confident you will
understand why.
That's an answer? Yes, please, by all means clarify.
(1) why is the temperature so stable, requiring power stability of 1%
Easy. The
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.comwrote:
Right, because no one can explain:
(1) why is the temperature so stable, requiring power stability of 1%
The temperature is not stable. It fluctuates considerably, as you see in
Am 18.11.2011 19:23, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
That is incorrect. Focardi and many other people reported
seeing it, including several people I know.
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Ron Wormus prot...@frii.com wrote:
Personally, I like the 18 hr water heating only run done in February.
Seems good to me.
It's not a bit good. Did you see the Youtube interview Krivit did with
Levi about this issue? Levi has had since last February to
Yes. The restriction on ad hominems only applies to skeptics.
A Rossi-believer can call you ignorant, blind, lacking in a seventh grade
education, unable to understand elementary science, pseudo-skeptic,
pathological skeptic, an agent of big oil, LENR-denier, even accuse you of
intentionally
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
All of them did, in test results they showed me, which unfortunately I
cannot upload. SNIP
Yet another lovely story which can not be confirmed. That's a pity! We
only need *one* that can be and we never seem to get it.
You have got it. Rossi has
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:26 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Lets try to discuss the technical details on occasions instead of the
scamming part of things. It is much more interesting to most of us
technical types.
Sure. But the problem is that many essential technical
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Assuming, that this was a top secret years ago, how did they know what it
is, when they have seen it?
I do not understand the question.
It was not top secret to these people. They went into the factory, examined
the reactor, and measured the input
I wrote:
There are videos and data from the Oct. 6 test. That test is irrefutable
by first principles. The tests from earlier this year were also excellent
despite the poor instrumentation.
Let me add that if you are not convinced by the Oct. 6 test I do not think
the earlier tests with the
OK Mary, you have heard my position on this manner, now explain why it is not
possible? I refer to the (1) item you list. I expect for you to cry that no
one has proved that this is what is happening, etc. Instead, for once let me
know why it is not possible.
So, if the water level is
I do not think Krivit is someone to be believed. He intentionally sets traps
with questions that most people would not give consideration to. Nowhere
within Dr. Levi's answers is anything but honest discussion. Dr. Levi is an
honest, decent man and you have no right to dishonor him.
Dave
David Roberson wrote:
So, if the water level is changing within the ECAT, why should the
power level output be required to hold within 1%? It is your turn now.
Oh right. Power level. I was talking about the T2 temperature remaining
stable. I confused the issue.
Naturally, the water level
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Transportation costs are not mentioned.
Come on, Peter. Rossi's Reactor constitutes one TEU which can be
shipped from Europe to China for about $1400.
T
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I do not think Krivit is someone to be believed. He intentionally sets
traps with questions that most people would not give consideration to.
Nowhere within Dr. Levi's answers is anything but honest discussion.
Right. The parts that Krivit described
You know that us technical types would prefer to have a large, accurate volume
of data to review, but that is not going to happen anytime soon. We are forced
to work doggedly on what we are given and much can be learned by what has been
demonstrated thus far. A lot of concentrated data would
From: Mary Yugo
* My understanding was that ad hominems are frowned upon and precluded from
this email list. Does that only apply to skeptics?
No - all such attacks are frowned on and precluded, but is my criticism over
your habit of posting of dozens of repetitive and shallow
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:06 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
If I recall, Uri was tricked once by a scientist controlling the stage
props and he failed. I would like to have seen that one.
He was tricked by an editor of Popular Photography magazine who used a
fisheye super wide
Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote:
So, it should be more financial fraud based on secretly accepting cash
from VERY credulous investors who sign iron clad nondisclosure secrecy
agreements IN OTHERWISE VERY WISHY-WASHY CONTRACTS THEY CANNOT ENFORCE,
and all that because convinced by
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Mary Yugo
** **
**Ø **My understanding was that ad hominems are frowned upon and
precluded from this email list. Does that only apply to skeptics?
** **
No – all such attacks are frowned on
I proposed a scenario of how the 1 MW system was operated and it seemed obvious
that it would be quite simple to allow the water level within the ECAT to
slowly drop throughout the test. This process would eliminate the demand for
super accurate power output that is a sticking point for the
At 04:54 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM,
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
wrote:
He's already said that deliveries to new customers will be in 2
months ... and that he's fully booked (ie 12 more for this one).
Sorry but where does he say that. I missed it. Is
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:06 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:
If I recall, Uri was tricked once by a scientist controlling the stage
props and he failed. I would like to have seen that one.
Off topic: but
At 08:53 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
In other words, they don't
believe Rossi either, on the evidence that he's
provided.
I personally think their position is way too
cover-their-a***/// conservative.
They don't even include a more public 1MW acceptance test as a possible
trigger.
I
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
As for the scammed investors: fools and their money will always be parted –
with or without our help. Rossi represents chump-change compared to Enron or
Madoff – or especially the hot fusion swindle.
Hah! If you look at
Brian Ahern wrote to me:
I [will] give a presentation on the topic of energy localization.
I believe [Rossi] did in fact see lots of heat on certain occasions, but he
lacks the ability to probe for the conditions that produce the energy. . .
.
As I said yesterday, the topic of energy
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
OK, I see your reason for the post. Well, did you consider that the
measurement device could have actually shown that result?
What measurement device are you referring to? They measured the
temperature. Without
Mouthy Mary - filtered to junk email folder
Nick Palmer
On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it
Blogspot - Sustainability and stuff according to Nick Palmer
http://nickpalmer.blogspot.com
I agree with what you say Terry.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Gain from the cold side
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
As for
Krivit claimed that a few days ago. It was the topic of one of his blog
posts, I think.
2011/11/18 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
(Someone here claimed that Ahern does not believe Rossi . . . I do not
recall who.)
From: Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
OK, I see your reason for the post. Well, did you consider that the
measurement device could have actually shown that result?
What measurement device are you referring to?
At 04:24 PM 11/17/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 04:10 PM 11/17/2011, Akira
Shirakawa wrote: ..
There's a zero missing somewhere :
«We are building a 130 MW thermal plant, made of 13 plant such as
the one you saw on October 28th».
Andrea Rossi
November 18th, 2011 at 5:33 AM
November 18th,
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Krivit claimed that a few days ago. It was the topic of one of his blog
posts, I think.
Ah. Well, he did not ask Ahern. Brian always speaks his mind. He is quite
clear about this issue.
I can't imagine where Krivit got his information.
- Jed
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Oh dear ... more Rossi speak. 13 separate plants, or one 13MW plant ... ?
I am pretty sure that means 13 plants, each 1 MW. That's what I gather
from reading the tea leaves.
- Jed
I for one forgive Jones for his slight breech of posting etiquette for
briefly expressing the understandable frustrations that will eventually
bubble up in the trench warfare that surrounds the Rossi issue.
But looking beyond the noise, the scientific implications of LENR
discoveries could open
* DO NOT REPLY ON VORTEX Please reply directly to a...@well.com *
Suppose you knew someone who has an upcoming skype interview with
Rossi, and who asked you for advice on what to ask.
I was originally inclined to ask for one more test ... but I don't
think that would fly.
Someone pointed out to me that Ahern has been posting incendiary comments
to Krivit's blog, such as this one, in which he loses the argument,
according to Goodwin's Law; a.k.a. *Reductio ad Hitlerum:*
*
*
This criticism of Rossi is far to leient. He is making his beggest claim
yet with no back up
He is very jealous. From what I hear, he has only been able to produce small
amounts of output (perhaps 10-50 watts). Rossi has produced a technology that
generates huge amounts of output. Rossi once stated that a 50cc reactor core
has a maximum safe output of 10 kilowatts. The problem with the
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