Re: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Axil Axil
What I am curious about is whether the reduced radioactivity that Reifenschweiler observed for tritium and heavier nuclei meant that the radioactive decays were actually suppressed, or that the energetic decay products were thermalized in the small monocrystalline particles via some hypothetical

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen refill

2011-11-24 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
so two article of the same FAQ are not coherent. http://faq.ecat.com/112273/how-much-ni-is-in-the-cell/ http://faq.ecat.com/112449/how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-it-take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six-months/ is'nt there a known issue with an error of unit that rossi

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Michele Comitini
I wish Peter Hagelstein replied: That's OK, Mr Rossi, fine! No more public test! Let me put it this way: would you let me test before buy as you advertise?!. That would have put AR in the corner, no escape. Is MIT afraid of being fouled ending up paying $2M for a scam? If it works those $2M

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
As a potential purchaser, I have had no problems with Rossi agreeing for us to test our E-Cat. $2m is pocket change for MIT. I suggest there a lot more that went on than what has been revealed. Many US based LENR firms will be doing everything they can, calling up all their IOUs to slow Rossi

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat 1MW Demo Water Clog Theory

2011-11-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote: David Roberson proposed a theory where a water clog forms because of condensation. Because of this clog, pressure and temperature rises until the clog is cleared I'm pretty sure your depicted scenario is not

[Vo]:Focardi reveal Iron is also involved

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=2cOEHQmnG-I#t=106s

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

2011-11-24 Thread Eric Woudenberg
I went back and looked at the Levi interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vYJIG3ymOk starting at 3:00). Levi says: 3:00 feb 2011 test w/o steam 4:00 system started in an almost explosive way 6:00 15 kw for 18 hours 6:20 we connected the system directly to the water pipe with flux [flow]

Re: [Vo]:Focardi reveal Iron is also involved

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
No, Ag, Focardi just said that the Earth nucleaus is composed of Ni and Fe, therefore Ni is one of the most abundant elements and will be available forever. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Hyperion product range?

2011-11-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Note temps were recorded every 2 seconds and the quality of the produced steam was measured to contain 1.2 to 1.4% water. Present were: Rossi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini so I accept

Re: [Vo]:Hyperion product range?

2011-11-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: That trend has been uniform except maybe for the October 28 test, in which, of course, data collection and details were not witnessed by anyone credible. Maybe the trend is not uniform, but even in the megacat, the

Re: [Vo]:Focardi reveal Iron is also involved

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Got it. There was 11% Fe found in the Ni powder analysis the Swedish guys did. AG On 11/24/2011 8:42 PM, Marcello Vitale wrote: No, Ag, Focardi just said that the Earth nucleaus is composed of Ni and Fe, therefore Ni is one of the most abundant elements and will be available forever. On

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: for those that repeat that CF is impossible , Not impossible, just unlikely, in the absence of good evidence. I can answer simply : - it breaks no basic rule of todays most validated models : Quantum

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

2011-11-24 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/24/2011 03:13 AM, Axil Axil wrote: I wonder if Rossi will change his tune on testing if Defkalion starts conducting public tests. A little competition is worth a million MYs And a new measurement unit is born. Let this be my modest attempt at a definition: One MY is defined as the

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Jed would say to this that there was no money involved in denying any of the phenomena brought as example. And he would be right, of course. It must also be pointed out that superconductivity, and the color of Au, and the color of silver nanoparticles depend on quantum mechanical effects whose

[Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3352744.ece/BINARY/Kullander_lecture_23nov.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
It was boring, that Kullander used sodium cooled fast reactor as an example of 4th gen nuclear power, because it is probably inherently failed concept. LFTR is way better concept, because there is required much less manufacturing and reprocessing nuclear fuel. Also he seem to be still out of

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat 1MW Demo Water Clog Theory

2011-11-24 Thread Berke Durak
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote: David Roberson proposed a theory where a water clog forms because of condensation. Because of this clog, pressure and temperature rises until

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: It might not be so confusing if one realizes, assuming all is as AR says, he has a very narrow window to make money off his eCat. I get that. I really do. But he was meeting with an elected official from the state of Massachusetts. A couple of miles away

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Rich Murray
but good way to generate PR that will attract more credulous investors -- strike a bold pose of independence, thumbing nose at the establishment... just helping Mary Yugo... On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: It

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
OH! I think there is a little bit of new information! Take a look at page 50! Data on 6 old experiments. But, I didn't understand something. Eric Lerner never talked anything about LENR, as far as I know, see page 58. In fact, Eric aims to work with fusion 7000x hotter than what is found in

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
That is really a stain in his reputation, at least for a few months. I was going to put my name in the 10K e-cat market research... Not anymore. It doesn't matter if he really has something real if he cannot prove that he can provide a reliable, functional and safe product. 2011/11/24 Jed

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread James Bowery
My question: Did Sen. Bruce Tarr ask Rossi any questions to which Rossi provided surprising (to B. Tarr) answers? When an attorney calls a witness, he knows the answers before he asks the questions. The same applies to public hearings where an elected official invests his political capital in

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

2011-11-24 Thread David Roberson
I am sorry if my statement annoys you Mary. You suggest that you might be willing to accept the slim possibility that Rossi is honest. I will give you the benefit of the doubt if you promise that your statement reflects your real opinion. On the other hand, Mr. Cude has made it quite clear

Re: [Vo]:Hyperion product range?

2011-11-24 Thread David Roberson
You are correct in your observation Mary. The device has grown in size remarkably and some of its characteristics are likely improved. The cute little unit that first showed up could not retain much hot water to deliver on demand. Rossi has made a point of the fact that the device takes a

RE: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

2011-11-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Rick sez: I am captivated by [Cude's] exceptional lucidity of mind -- soon, he will give the Defkalion delusion an equally exquisite shave Your personal objectivity on these matters is something to behold, as what appears to be your undying faith in the infallibility of your heroes. Rich,

Re: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread froarty572
Lou, Axil,     I think Jones Beene has previously  cited thermal anomalies of both heating and cooling, the cooling anomaly is less pronounced than the heating anomaly. Likewise reports of accelerated half lives of radioactive gases are more pronounced than reports of

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
2011/11/24 Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com Not impossible, just unlikely, in the absence of good evidence. I don't agree. SC was not understood, but the idea that quantum transitions could be inhibited at low temperature was not contrary to any calculations of reaction rates or

RE: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Jones Beene
Fran, Last month the Barker patents were dredged up again in this context. This experiment is like the Reifenschweiler effect on steroids, and has been replicated often, but of course – it is a great stretch to think it could be applicable to Nickel-64 – which is an isotope that is “not

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: If Rossi does not want MIT to test his reactors, he should never have met with state officials. It was an embarrassing waste of everyone's time. I dunno. Assuming they paid for the ticket, it was a cheap way for him to

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

2011-11-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: This is like saying that because a theatre gradually filled with people over two hours it is implausible to believe the same theatre emptied of

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Jed said .But he was meeting with an elected official from the state of Massachusetts. A couple of miles away from the most prestigious university of technology in the world, run by the state. Uh, Jed, MIT is private. Or maybe you meant UMass? On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jed

RE: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed sez: If Rossi does not want MIT to test his reactors, he should never have met with state officials. It was an embarrassing waste of everyone's time. I suspect Rossi would beg to differ. Seems to me that Rossi has always been operating on Rossi time. From Terry, I dunno.

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Happy T-day to the US folk. Don't overdo it :-))) On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:54 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Jed sez: If Rossi does not want MIT to test his reactors, he should never have met with state officials. It was an embarrassing waste

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Once again, the forum rules seem to apply only to believers. How would they react if I launched a vociferous, irrelevant and pejorative tirade against them here? On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote: On 11/24/2011 03:13 AM, Axil Axil wrote: I wonder if Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

2011-11-24 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Eric, I agree with your assessment of what is wrong with 911 conspiracy theories. The problems with these theories is how to coordinate so many people involved in the conspiracy without any of them revealing what happened. In the case of the Rossi story we have mostly him behaving in a completely

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Maybe there will be an English translation. In the meantime, can anyone tell me if Kullander addresses the superb concerns and excellent measurement methods proposed by Grabowski et al (US Naval Research Laboratory) here? http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GrabowskiKrobustperf.pdf I think everyone

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
That Melich, in the paper, is Rossi's friend, tested the ecats, in 2009, I think, and it is an enemy of Krivit. Krivit hates that guy. Krivit, 1 day after the first test in January, noticed that he was associated with Rossi, and since that very moment, he showed a negative attitude towards Rossi.

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: That Melich, in the paper, is Rossi's friend, tested the ecats, in 2009, I think, and it is an enemy of Krivit. Krivit hates that guy. Krivit, 1 day after the first test in January, noticed that he was associated with

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think Jed can answer better than I do. But the reason is Krivit doesn't like that guy it is that he thinks Melich a cover agent of the US government to suppress cold fusion. But they are very probably associated, as you can see in the list of Rossi's list of advisors in his blog as well as some

RE: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread pagnucco
Thanks Axil, Fran, Jones, - for lots of intriguing information. You have put lot of effort into this. On the quantum entanglement/nonlocality issue - possibly relevant is: Undetectable quantum transfer through a continuum http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.2901 - but interesting even if not. The Ni-64

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: I tried translating from the Swedish PDF to English with Google. It's not entirely satisfactory but it does suggest that Kullander did consider Grabowski's paper or the same concerns from theory. If I understood him, Kullander concluded that Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: Did he not discuss the fact, that the electrical energy was not enough for boiling? It was barely enough for 60°, at this water flow rate. I think this is evident and

[Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Rossi, writing on his blog (which I copied from ecatnews.com). As I once theorized, and Jed Rothwell strongly disagreed with, it seems as if Defkalion may have made mockups based on the promise of getting an active core from Rossi -- something Rossi may have reneged on resulting in the failure of

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 19:48, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 24.11.2011 19:22, schrieb Mary Yugo: Did he not discuss the fact, that the electrical energy was not enough for boiling? It

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling. If there was water overflow this would be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Mary, It is a bit difficult to discuss with you things from the past or from the present, therefore I bet with you that *till 31 august next year there will be at least 6 teams who know Rossi's secret *or have found an equifunctional and equivalent additive to his and are able to obtain

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 20:36, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 24.11.2011 20:10, schrieb Peter Heckert: Btw, it is interesting to see in figure 6 that the differential steepness at 10:36 abruptly and exactly doubles. It looks as if a second 300W heater was activated. This is enough for some boiling. If

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Terry Blanton
Peter, To ensure equivalent value, you should specify the brand. I would suggest Sauza Tres Generaciones Plata. T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of the EU says no alcoholic beverage with more than 40% alcohol. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, To ensure equivalent value, you

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Peter wrote: Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands. I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand, and has been mentioned by numerous people, numerous

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of the EU says no alcoholic beverage with more than 40% alcohol. False. There is so-called Stroh RUM (straw rum) with 50% and with 80%

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it elsewhere. Rossi has two heaters in the device -- a startup heater in the middle and a safety (?!?!)

[Vo]:EV World: Rossi's e-Cat goes commercial (12 sold - worth 24 million)

2011-11-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2035 Excerpt: Andrea Rossi may have his doubters, detractors and skeptics, but the client for whom he demonstrated his 1MW e-Cat energy system apparently isn't one of them. Not only did the mysterious client take delivery of Rossi's first 1MW heat

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:30, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter wrote: Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands. I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gluck
That a huge surprise never heard of it!! Thanks, I still have to learn. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: ** Then, why does he invite scientists? Kullander and Essen are rather high level scientists. For what does he need Levi? Exactly. Not to mention his invitation a while back to Josephson. Fire all scientists

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 21:34, schrieb Mary Yugo: Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it [snip] My suspicion is that KE did it correctly with the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Too dangerous, have seen chromatograms of it myriads of toxic compounds. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gluck
I see it is an Austrian product, will ask my blog partner georgina who writes much better than me and in Bankdirektorin in Vienna. Subject closed and I apologize for wasting your time, colleagues. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote: Am 24.11.2011

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I did say I was not going to reply to you but your last statement is just 100% BS. The reactor and the Blue Box sat on a table. There was ONE power cord that was plugged into the wall. It went to the Blue Box (then the RFG was inside the Blue Box) and then to the reactor. There were no other

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Jed we don't know what happened at those meetings. All you have revealed it what one person said. There is a LOT more going on here that has been revealed. Rossi is old school Southern European and keeps his cards VERY close to his chest. Yanks blast everything all over the web. Very different

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe. Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. T

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? This forum is primarily interested in discussing the facts and evidence, preferably with supporting references and calculations, in order to establish the level of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Too dangerous, have seen chromatograms of it myriads of toxic compounds. I recommend a more healthy hallucinogenic, Jagermeister! T

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: BTW Rossi has no problems with me doing Black Box testing of a E-Cat and he knows I'm on Vortex. It's real, so you doubters get over it. You are wrong. We doubters will only be wrong if you actually get an

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of this and purposely is spreading mis-information, 2) Mary isn't aware

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You are way beyond being an open minded doubter. AG On 11/25/2011 7:40 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: BTW Rossi has no problems with me doing Black Box testing of a E-Cat and

RE: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Good one Terry! -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 1:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Nothing like a really good Barossa Shiraz. AG On 11/25/2011 7:37 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote: If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe. Absinthe makes the heart grow

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: It is SELDOM a black or white situation… just because past claims of magnet motors and water cars have been shown to be mistaken or fraudulent, doesn’t mean that ALL such claims can be concluded to be the

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: You are way beyond being an open minded doubter. Why? You have never seen an actual E-cat in person have you? You have never touched one much less tested one? What makes you so sure you will ever get one to

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
A friend wrote to me: Only Andrea could meet with a senator to ask for financial incentives to build a factory and refuse to allow them to test, huh? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 24.11.2011 22:08, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? I must admit, I have never seen a magnet motor or water car. Because I dont see these devices that where

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I have read almost all the papers, looked very carefully at all the videos and photographs, observed how the mains power was applied and saw the Blue Box and E-Cat sat on tables that would eliminate any hidden external power source. There was a single mains connection to the Blue Box and the

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
Heh! When I was a Technical Manager at ITT our lab reported directly to Park Ave headquarters. Our new (we had 5 in as many years) technical director went to a critical meeting in Brussels, and came back gloating about how he had thrashed them. A week later we were reporting to Brussels.

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.net wrote: Uh, Jed, MIT is private. Or maybe you meant UMass? You are right. It is a 19th century land grant college, like Cornell. Technically private but a lot of it is tied in with the state. (Cornell has schools entirely funded by New York, and annual

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
We don't know that was what went down. AG On 11/25/2011 8:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: A friend wrote to me: Only Andrea could meet with a senator to ask for financial incentives to build a factory and refuse to allow them to test, huh? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
Slide 45 is the one I adapted from New Energy Times it's in my steam quality document! - Original Message - See: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3352744.ece/BINARY/Kullander_lecture_23nov.pdf

[Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

2011-11-24 Thread Michele Comitini
A break from the e-cat vortex... this is a very important discovery. Downloadable pdf of press release: http://goo.gl/HgFdf html version: http://goo.gl/RRUwW mic

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are lying about the results or these people are idiots? What hidden wires? The mains cord went to the Blue Box and then to the reactor. Everything was visible. Look at the photos. What not checking for hidden wires? You can see

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Exactly. AG On 11/25/2011 7:42 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Charles Hope
So far, nobody seems to be able to predict Rossi's actions as well as Mary can. The rest of us are stumped, but her hypothesis explains the behavior. On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:07, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: We don't know that was what went down. AG On 11/25/2011

[Vo]:Metallic Hydrogen

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, two researchers from the Max Planck institute say, they have made metallic hydrogen at a pressure of 220GPa. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-pair-hydrogen-metal.html This was tried before, but never had success. Metallic hydrogen is believed to be superconducting at room temperature.

[Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Craig Brown
Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is explained by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most valuable IP and doesn't have a US or European patent yet. There is no need for the pseudosceptics to look for conspiracy theories.

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

2011-11-24 Thread Michele Comitini
Seems Google lost the html version of the document... you can find it going to the agile site: http://agile.rm.iasf.cnr.it/ mic 2011/11/24 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com: A break from the e-cat vortex... this is a very important discovery. Downloadable pdf of press release:

[Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
Link below is to the first video. These are from Nov 15 and I have not seem them mentioned here before -- sorry if this turns out to be redundant. No time to view it all or to list all the videos. I think there are 8, each from around 6 to 10 or so minutes long. Why not all at once? I don't

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

2011-11-24 Thread Alan Fletcher
You send us an ITALIAN paper of data from an ITALIAN satellite? I think it's FAKE! I won't believe it until they give me the satellite so I can do some independent tests in my own orbit. (Happy thanksgiving , by the way . )

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011-11-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-11-24 23:47, Mary Yugo wrote: don't know. If someone has time, I'd like to know where the Rossi coverage is. I watched the first video and he promises to give some time to that issue: I've seen these videos a few days ago. They're quite interesting as a whole. I've also found out

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote: Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is explained by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most valuable IP and doesn't have a US or European patent yet. There is no need for the

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: This is the segment where he speaks about Rossi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=N3N3dWlIPUQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3N3dWlIPUQ Thanks Akira. You're on top of things as usual.

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

2011-11-24 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are lying about the results or these people are idiots? They don't have to be idiots to be fooled. Scientists are more easily fooled than most

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

2011-11-24 Thread Michele Comitini
2011/11/24 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com: You send us an ITALIAN paper of data from an ITALIAN satellite? I think it's FAKE! This one is a FAKED FAKE so it's REAL! :-) (Happy thanksgiving , by the way . ) Of course! Thanks you! And happy thanks giving to all! mic

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
some peopl here imagin that rossi can be a scammer... It does not seems credible, according tou his strange behavior itself. if you try to profile him from his behavior, you find more a weak-paranoid style persister in process com. He does not behave like the usual weak-sociopath style promoter

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I have not found any strange behavior in my commercial dealings with Rossi. I totally understand and accept what he asks of his customers and he accepts my requirements on him. I know he works 16 hours a day as I do (if needed) as there are about 8 hours a day when there is no almost immediate

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/11/25 Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co: Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is explained by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most valuable IP and doesn't have a US or European patent yet. This is unfortunate but true point. The economical

[Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-24 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me your blunt feedback. Also please use the paper however you see fit. http://bit.ly/cold-fusion Thanks,

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011-11-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
In this segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3N3dWlIPUQ He discusses some of Piantelli's nuclear evidence around minute 3. Then he goes on to discuss Rossi. At 5:40 he calls Rossi a dodgy character but later he says he is brilliant. He lists of the experiments that has not been made public

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
One word to describe your paper. EXCELLENT. AG On 11/25/2011 10:32 AM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me

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