Someone visited North Korea and took some hundreds of good quality
pictures.
http://testroete.com/northkorea.html
It is not that common to see those from that poor country.
–Jouni
On 2 January 2012 04:35, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Not having direct access I think it's difficult for any of us to determine
whether DGT or Rossi is ahead in the game. DGT strikes me as better
organized, company wise. The organization is probably being
Hello group,
Here is a long one-hour audio interview with Andrea Rossi by James
Martinez' Cold Fusion Radio Ca$h Flow, hosted on Cold Fusion Now blog.
http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/andrea-rossi-interview-on-cah-flow-i-translate-pressure-as-responsibility/
I still haven't had
Mr. Rossi responded to a question about home units saying distribution
to the public of household units is expected to begin “in autumn of
2012” adding that “We are in talks with Home Depot for the diffusion”.
“We have already started the sales of the industrial plants of 1MW, but
now
Interview download:
http://www.coldfusionnow.org/audio/2011-12-29-Andrea-Rossi.mp3
AG
On 1/3/2012 9:22 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
Here is a long one-hour audio interview with Andrea Rossi by James
Martinez' Cold Fusion Radio Ca$h Flow, hosted on Cold Fusion Now blog.
Hello group,
It appears that at the Geneva ISEO-WSEC Conference 2012 Francesco Celani
will speak about LENR and CMNS (Condensed Matter Nuclear Science).
While, reading the event program, LENR won't be getting the attention it
deserves, it is still good news that it obtained a place in a
From Jouni,
I cannot understand where did you get such an impression.
Defkalion is still nothing but an unpopular discussion forum
in the Internet. Nothing else. There is only one spokes person,
Xanthoulis, who is making bold claims, without any real proofs.
Everyone who has personal
Overall that seems much, much better than my country. Poor people here are
in way worse conditions than in those photos.
2012/1/3 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
Someone visited North Korea and took some hundreds of good quality
pictures.
http://testroete.com/northkorea.html
It is
On 2012-01-03 12:13, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
[...] adding that “We are in talks with Home Depot for the diffusion”.
Wow, this would be great news if confirmed, although when Rossi names
specific companies he is usually honest, so there's not much reason to
doubt this could be true.
Cheers,
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
However, Defkalion spokesman Alexandros Xanthoulis told Swedish science
magazine NyTeknik that they know exactly what the catalyst is. In a piece
of subterfuge, a spectroscopic examination was carried out on an E-Cat
What about Jed Rothwell's secret source who just came back with glowing reviews?
On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 January 2012 04:35, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Not having direct access I think it's
I would love for this to be true ..BUT... It overlooks the choke point
surrounding certifications - You just know big oil is going to leverage this to
thwart cold fusion so it is far more likely that any residential product will
first be distributed in 3rd world and pirate nations. The economic
James, that is according to Swedish science magazine NyTeknik and I am certain
Xanthoulis' position is that NyTeknik misunderstood him and their synopsis not
accurate on that point.
From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:29 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
I have finally got my paper The control of the Natural Forces to a point were
I am satisfied with it. Previous versions were not quite there. I am now done
with it, I hope.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterf.html
Frank Z
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:
there's not much reason to doubt this could be true.
Interesting way to put it. I suppose it could be true. But there is
plenty of reason to doubt that it *is* true. We've been all over that
ground before. And
On 2012-01-03 17:42, Mary Yugo wrote:
Interesting way to put it. I suppose it could be true. But there is
plenty of reason to doubt that it *is* true.
This should be easily verifiable, differently than when Rossi speaks of
secret individuals or entities.
We've been all over that
ground
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:
Therefore, putting aside the actual content of the talks (which could have
ended either positively or not), this news must in my opinion be regarded
as a good one, because the more people and entities get
It is strange to me that they would even discuss this issue. This will really
assist Rossi if a court trial determining ownership of his catalyst is held.
Is this revelation supposed to increase our confidence in Defkalion?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James Bowery
I agree with your assessment. Products such as the ECAT will not be sold over
the counter in Home Depot. Right now you can not buy heat pumps there as the
government requires certified installers due to the dangers involved. There
are few customers capable of making the connections required
On 2012-01-03 19:16, David Roberson wrote:
I agree with your assessment. Products such as the ECAT will not be sold
over the counter in Home Depot. Right now you can not buy heat pumps
there as the government requires certified installers due to the dangers
involved. There are few customers
There would be no moving parts. With proper engineering it will be
safer than an air conditioner with inverter and heat pump function
even simpler than a pellet stove. Those things are all sold over the
counter.
mic
2012/1/3 David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com:
I agree with your assessment.
I think it would be possible to buy a stand alone space heater if the nuclear
issue does not get too much attention. I guess it might be possible to
purchase any safe stand alone product that does not require the customer to
modify or add wiring or piping systems. I have not seen where Rossi
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I think it would be possible to buy a stand alone space heater if the
nuclear issue does not get too much attention. I guess it might be
possible to purchase any safe stand alone product that does not require the
You can buy heat pumps, air conditioners, tankless water heaters, gas
water heaters, 60A circuit breakers, poisons, muriactic acid, and lots
of other things that can kill you at the Home Depot. HD also provides
professional installation of solar and HVAC. I think this fits in
very nicely with
One problem with small units is the localization of the heat. A modest sized
home is much more comfortable with a central heating or cooling system that
uses air ducts to transport the heat throughout the house. Is this not the
most common type of system used in the developed world or am I
I guess we must assume it is real if we are to discuss the installation issues!
I would also be concerned about the dangers of steam explosions or other
safety issues if the current design is employed. We might be premature in our
assessment of the products that will follow with additional
David Roberson wrote:
One problem with small units is the localization of the heat. A
modest sized home is much more comfortable with a central heating or
cooling system that uses air ducts to transport the heat throughout
the house.
An eCat heater would use the same air ducts. It would
Really? Maybe it depends upon the local rules. In this area you can buy
replacement water heaters at Home Depot but none of the other items that
require you to modify wiring. Surely you are kidding about heat pumps. These
must be limited to professional installers with a license as few
Please if you are interested in North Korea situation go on the youtube and
watch some of the several videos about the real North Korea. Here is one by
National Geographic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXfMMHV8FM
What one has to understand that North Korea created the capital city as an
haven
That is what I would hope will happen some day. Does anyone know whether or
not Rossi or Defkalion are designing their devices to standards required for
the refit? My main question is related to the knowledge required for the
installation and the local rules. Here, Home Depot does not sell
From Dave:
I agree with your assessment. Products such as the ECAT will not be
sold over the counter in Home Depot. Right now you can not buy heat
pumps there as the government requires certified installers due to the
dangers involved. There are few customers capable of making the
Yeah, anti NK propaganda.
2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com
Please if you are interested in North Korea situation dgo on the youtube
and watch some of the several videos about the real North Korea. Here is
one by National Geographic:
David Roberson:
Go to the Home Depot website. They provide HVAC services including sales
through authorized dealers and installers. Obviously, they don't sell heat
pumps to customers off the shelf but do provide the kind of service Rossi might
be interested in.
Who would be the authorized
Ville Kanninen
January 3rd, 2012 at 12:30 AM
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=9#comment-161992
Does the first generation unit need any other connections than
electricity ? Is it designed to produce warm air or to warm water
flowing through the unit ?
Now that the holidays are winding to a close, is there any update on the
Defkalion visit?
Any rough approximation as to when information may be forthcoming?
Right, people shorter by 2-3 inches in average from their South-Korean
counterpart is propaganda. Several humanitarian organizations talking about
3 million deaths by starvation is propaganda. Watch the documentary and
tell me where the propaganda is.
Watch how people that were helped by the
David Roberson wrote:
Really? Maybe it depends upon the local rules. In this area you can
buy replacement water heaters at Home Depot but none of the other
items that require you to modify wiring. Surely you are kidding about
heat pumps. These must be limited to professional installers
David Roberson wrote:
That is what I would hope will happen some day. Does anyone know
whether or not Rossi or Defkalion are designing their devices to
standards required for the refit?
How else would they do it?
My main question is related to the knowledge required for the
At 12:10 PM 1/3/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
http://www.homedepot.com/hdus/en_US/DTCCOM/HomePage/Docs/HVAC_Trane_ENG_Online.pdf
Yeah .. but that one says:
The Home Depot works only with home service professionals
who meet the highest standards for experience, know-how and customer
service. We
The suspenseful music talking all the time. Forgetting that most people
have superstition everywhere, even by thanking acts living people, like
Pope's touch. Being shorter as a measure of poverty. Not acknowledging or
giving credit for the NK's reasons for their isolation and thus possible
deaths
In general, in areas where I have lived, anyone can do electrical work
as long as it's inspected by a licensed electrician before it goes into
service. Ditto plumbing, IIRC. (And if you look at rental apartments
that started out as pieces of single family homes, you'll find that
enforcement
On 12-01-03 03:19 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 12:10 PM 1/3/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
http://www.homedepot.com/hdus/en_US/DTCCOM/HomePage/Docs/HVAC_Trane_ENG_Online.pdf
Yeah .. but that one says:
The Home Depot works only with home service professionals who meet the
highest standards
Jan 2 Article on Cleantechnica
http://cleantechnica.com/2012/01/02/government-scientists-more-efficient-at-splitting-hydrogen/
Looks like Argonne scientists are keeping up with Ni-H [snip] The new catalyst
combination drove the reaction at ten times the previous rate, saving both
energy and
These are all good points, at the same time as with everything you have to
put all the evidence together to get an overall picture. The starvation is
real, I spent all day yesterday in looking at documentaries and reportage
about North Korea. There is a lot of information from different countries
Were any of these documentaries done by countries or organizations not
aligned with US?
2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com
These are all good points, at the same time as with everything you have to
put all the evidence together to get an overall picture. The starvation is
Well, BBC is pretty fair, and I think National Geographic is not
necessarily a branch of the US government. There are also Dutch and other
documentaries around.
Giovanni
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Were any of these documentaries done by countries
Please take this topic over to vortexb list!
-mark
From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:57 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] N Korea's Secret Weapon
Were any of these documentaries done by countries or organizations not
All of those big government scientists should be de-funded. Especially all the
hot fusion scientists -- every last one! Unfortunately, the Tea Party has been
corrupted by liberal leaning individuals who want to keep spending tax dollars
unconstitutionally, on projects the government has no
I agree. I want more information.
As I see it right now, we have zero proof that they have built any working
reactor cores themselves. I think it is likely that a long time ago Rossi
loaned them a few cores to test, but I do not know if they have built a
working, practical cold fusion system.
All of these references are for you to work with a professional installation
company. That is what I would expect. I had the impression that someone was
suggesting that you could just go into the store and buy one without the proper
license. In the case of Home Depot, they are just helping
So far I have not seen anything about design of the ECATs to fit HVAC
standards. Have I missed some references to that effect? We agree that it
will be required, but have you seen any actual documents?
Yes, I was trying to point out that they would not let me as a non licensed
hacker buy a
More evidence that we are dealing with oscillations and need to look at
whether there are any harmonic relationships within the H-loaded Ni lattice,
plasmons, deflated H, inverse Rydbergs, magnetic effects, etc.
Note the statement, .a strong magnetic behavior, and that the
oscillations are
Iggy Dalrymple
January 3rd, 2012 at 4:39 PM
Dear Dr Rossi,
You speak of your 1st generation home E-Cat providing both heat and
cooling. Through what mechanism can your machine provide
cooling?
Sincerely,
Iggy Dalrymple
Andrea Rossi
January 3rd, 2012 at 5:22 PM
Dear Iggy Dalrymple:
We will
Extremely large extinction efficiency and field enhancement in terahertz
resonant dipole nanoantennas
Razzari, et.al.
From the abstract:
.. demonstrating a metal nanostructure in shape of a dipole nanoantenna,
which can efficiently resonate at terahertz frequencies, showing an
effective
Based on the recently announced 20 kW thermal home E-Cat costing $1,500
and assuming it draws 0.4 kW (400 Watts) from the mains (COP 50), here
is the LCOE and the individual item cost breakdowns.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kLBSLYjhfkssP57d3w1J6dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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