Didn't Ampenergo put some cash into Rossi last year in May?
Here it is:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/05/fast-facts-about-ampenergo-andrea-rossis-north-and-south-american-commercial-partner/
Wolf
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Alan J Fletchera...@well.com wrote:
January 13th, 2012 at
Rossi has delivered a 1 MW E-Cat, has said they are building the other
13 x 1 MW E-Cats and he has ample cash. What he said here was they are
not yet finished with the optimization of the NI system. Why read
something else into his statement?
AG
On 1/14/2012 6:35 PM, Wolf Fischer wrote:
On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The only way to get capitalism to work is to shift the tax base from
economic activity to the liquidation value of assets, and set the tax
rate to the interest rate used to calculate liquidation value.
But no one with wealth wants that to happen
I think the problem is not with Capitalism (you cannot find anything better
or more realistic, it is with Moneytheism- the most popular and
destructive religion today.
Peter
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
**
On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
On 01/14/2012 09:21 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
I think the problem is not with Capitalism (you cannot find anything
better or more realistic, it is with Moneytheism- the most popular
and destructive religion today.
I think the same. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value in
itself,
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
**
On 01/11/2012 11:28 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The only way to get capitalism to work is to shift the tax base from
economic activity to the liquidation value of assets, and set the tax rate
to the interest rate used to
BRAVO. Well said by all.
A bit off-topic, but with keen insight, which is hard to find these days,
on-topic.
-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy
I think the same. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value in
itself, when it should be considered just a convenient form of
We need to put down the guns.
Every action taken by government, whether it's a new law, or some tax,
is enforced by violence and the threat of violence. It's enforced at
the point of a gun. We need to stop using guns to solve our social
problems. Replace laws with voluntary agreements, and
Why read something else into this? LOL. You must be joking.
Because Rossi spoke it, for one thing - and because it is misleading for
another, just short of complete dishonesty.
You should know this, AG - if you talk to Rossi as much as you claim; and if
he is being straight with you.
Rossi did
Where did you get the information that the customer sent the 1MW plant
back? Are you an employee of the customer? (as you mention the word we)
Wolf
Why read something else into this? LOL. You must be joking.
Because Rossi spoke it, for one thing - and because it is misleading for
another,
No, I am not an employee of the customer, but it is a rather large group...
... ever heard of any large group keeping a secret secure, once too many
tongue-waggers know about it? People talk.
If J. Edgar could not suppress the incredible secret (that he was a gay
cross-dresser) during the 40s,
See:
More fizzer than fusion, so Dick's not energised
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/more-fizzer-than-fusion-so-dicks-not-energised-20120114-1q0fv.html
What a screw up!
- Jed
From Mauro,
. The problem is in the way money is taken as a value
in itself, when it should be considered just a convenient form
of replacement for other, real values.
The way money is valued, that's where the real problem lies. In fact,
we're in a really stupid state of affairs, come
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
No, I am not an employee of the customer, but it is a rather large group...
Which large group? How do you know? (generically... I am not asking you
to reveal a confidential source of course)
The entrepreneur Dick Smith had offered to invest $200,000 if the physics
was proven. He sent along a consulting aerospace engineer and sceptic, Ian
Bryce, to assess the machine.
This is the second time they wrote that and it's confusing. Did Bryce go
to Italy? Or just to their town meeting or
Thanks for the info! Can you share some more information? If so:
- Do you know, if works for a short time means that it actually
delivers more energy than has been put in? How long is short? ;)
- Is the customer waiting for a new and improved version or has he
canceled all the contracts?
Wolf
Perhaps this document:
Capitalism: Reject or Retool?: http://bigthink.com/ideas/41870:
from INFORMAVORES SUNDAY No 490 can help you in this problem.
Peter
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From Mauro,
** **
… The
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
Thanks for the info! Can you share some more information? If so:
- Do you know, if works for a short time means that it actually delivers
more energy than has been put in? How long is short? ;)
- Is the customer waiting
Wolf,
The following is strong on opinion and weak on fact, for the obvious reason.
Whenever you see the word apparently below, the factuality of the report
cannot be verified. Several insiders know about this, and I am not an
insider.
You may remember that Defkalion backed out of the original
Jones,
thank you very much for this long and interesting post!
Although I don't really understand the Payola reference (and Google
didn't help me here), I still think I know who you are referring to (I
think, this customer that you are referring to, has been mentioned all
along after the test
My questions were motivated by definition #4 in the patent which refers to
deuterating the crystal, but it is clear (I think) from the context that
this is still just as part of proposed small, conventional (hot) impact
fusion - not really cold fusion, at all. Fusion is not claimed to take
place
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Apparently, this problem of self-extinguishing operation (aka 'quiescence')
has not been solved. I have some technical information to share on that
subject, for a later post.
McKubre has stated that quiescence also occurs
Terry,
Yes, McKubre's suggested site alteration is the most likely reason that so
many LENR experiments, going back decades, seem to be unreliable, even when
identical experiment works well - at other times. Do you by any chance have
a citation for McKubre's observations?
There are two other
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Terry,
Yes, McKubre's suggested site alteration is the most likely reason that so
many LENR experiments, going back decades, seem to be unreliable, even when
identical experiment works well - at other times. Do you by any
and he didn't
bother to blame me,'' Mr Millin said. (Google transalte will have fun with this
one, since it translates Rossi as Smith. ) - Original Message -
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/more-fizzer-than-fusion-so-dicks-not-energised-20120114-1q0fv.html
What a screw up
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Terry,
Yes, McKubre's suggested site alteration is the most likely reason that so
many LENR experiments, going back decades, seem to be unreliable,
Geeze, don't these people have cell phones to coordinate with?
T
Sorry if this was discussed and I missed it but a new set of Rossi says
is creating cognitive dissonance in several places.
Rossi says on his blog that the price of his so-called megawatt plant has
been reduced from $2 million to $1.5 million. But he projects that
starting within a year, his
Two other details worth casual comment from this video.
Of course, the focus is on Pd-D back in the day when SRI was active in
actual RD instead of posturing; yet they essentially ignored Ni-H ... plus
the Pd was bulk material or foils - not nanopowder. But in terms of loading
time vs. active
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Of course, the focus is on Pd-D back in the day when SRI was active in
actual RD instead of posturing; yet they essentially ignored Ni-H ...
They did not ignore Ni-H. Srinivasan was there for months trying to
replicate, and they worked with Patterson.
in the discussion about cars and e-cat/defkalion
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
today rossi give an answer about time to switch on/off
From: Jed Rothwell
Of course, the focus is on Pd-D back in the day when SRI was active in
actual RD instead of posturing; yet they essentially ignored Ni-H ...
They did not ignore Ni-H. Srinivasan was there for months trying to
replicate, and they worked with Patterson. They are not
So you know the name of Rossi's first customer? Which is?
AG
On 1/15/2012 3:01 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
No, I am not an employee of the customer, but it is a rather large group...
... ever heard of any large group keeping a secret secure, once too many
tongue-waggers know about it? People
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
No it isn’t. I repeat SRI did not work with Ni-H gas phase. Ni-H2O is NOT
the same as Ni-H and the dynamics are very different.
No on was working on gas phase Ni-H in those days. It hadn't occurred to
anyone to do it. The problem is that there are
Interesting info. So you are confirming Rossi DID ship the 1 MW reactor
to his customer. That it did not work over extended periods is to be
expected with new technology. If this has happened it says 2 things:
Rossi did ship the reactor to his customer. Excellent news
The reactor did work but
I mean NO ONE was working on gas phase Ni-H in those days. Or nanoparticle
Ni. As far as I know, no one was. Perhaps Rossi was, while keeping a low
profile.
Many variations that seemed promising back then, and some still do. They
include nanoparticles, nanoparticles in various suspensions such
as
From: Jed Rothwell
No it isn't. I repeat SRI did not work with Ni-H gas phase. Ni-H2O is NOT
the same as Ni-H and the dynamics are very different.
JR: No one was working on gas phase Ni-H in those days.
Wrong again. The Thermacore Ni-H gas phase report had been out by the time
Srinivasan came
Hi AG,
Jones gave a lot of hints in his answer to my questions 4:30 hours
earlier. The customers name seems to start with N, is an organization
in Brussel, Rossi also once mentioned the name in the context of the
28th october 1MW test while talking about the Colonel (my guess, the
name has
From: Jed Rothwell
JR: Srinivasan did what seemed most likely to work. He did what Mills and
others claimed was working. It never did.
I hate to quote Krivit on this, but he has considered this research
recently:
http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3620review.shtml
Jones
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Wrong again. The Thermacore Ni-H gas phase report had been out by the time
Srinivasan came to SRI.
Srinivasan discussed this with everyone doing Ni work at the time,
including the people at Thermocore, I believe. He followed their advice.
Doubly
Wolf,
Rossi has stated the customer is a US organization engaged in military
research, the first 1 MW plant was at the customers site in the US and
that he and others have attended to install the plant. Later he stated,
he, the customer's engineer and NI are working on the advanced control
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
I hate to quote Krivit on this, but he has considered this research
recently:
http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3620review.shtml
This quotes TR-107843-V1, June 1998, pdf page numbers 363-375. Excerpt:
Out of 22 cells in which calorimetry
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi AG,
Jones gave a lot of hints in his answer to my questions 4:30 hours
earlier. The customers name seems to start with N, is an organization in
Brussel, Rossi also once mentioned the name in the context of the 28th
From: Jed Rothwell
JB: Doubly wrong. Srinivasan did have minor success with light water
electrolysis !
JR: He told me he did not succeed. He thinks the heat was insignificant.
Is any gain (any gain that ostensibly violates conservation of energy)
really insignificant? Is COP = 1.2
AG,
I am just repeating what Jones Beene has posted (look at his post and
what he said there). Perhaps I misunderstood him.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg61115.html
His reference to payola and its italian wording could mean Giampaolo
Di Paola, the Chairman of the NATO
Mary you need to direct this to Jones Beene who claims to have the
inside information that the customer is real, did receive the plant and
that it worked but not as long as the customer expected. Even you would
have to admit this is good information and what one would expect from a
first off
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Not to put word in his mouth, or your memory, but I suspect that what he
told you was he could not be sure the gain did not come from recombination
effects.
He meant the calorimetry was not accurate enough to ensure the results were
above
To ever use this tech in cars would require quick warm up - the steamers of the
1910s and 1920s could build up enough steam in a few minutes. If warm up is
slow, they would have to use battery until enough steam available for elec
generation in a series hybrid. Another reason (larger batteries
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
Mary you need to direct this to Jones Beene who claims to have the inside
information ...
AG: I could not make it any clearer in the prior post that I am not a Rossi
insider.
OTOH - AG - you have consistently said that you talk to AR often (3
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
I do not know whether we should call this switch on or ramp up but yes,
this is what I was looking at as well, when I
Jones,
I haven't spoken to Andrea for some time, waiting on the specs of the
high temp plant before we get into contracts. I have emailed him about
your comments.
AG
On 1/15/2012 9:45 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
Mary you need to direct this
The SRI paper also discusses the Ni-H work of Notoya, Ohmori, Noninski and
Bush. I worked closely with all of those people. I paid several thousand
dollars of my own money for some of their work. I have lots of data from
them. I know a great deal about their calorimetry. I am not confident that
Jones,
What failed reactor? You claim to have a report that it produces massive
amounts of excess heat. So it works. All I see in your report is there
is a control issue and that Rossi, the customers engineer and NI are
working to fix it.
This is new and leading edge technology. Would I
Jed,
Yup. Learning that the hard way. But it does WORK.
AG
On 1/15/2012 10:01 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Cold fusion is much harder than it looks.
From: Jed Rothwell
* SRI's publication quoted by Krivit makes it clear they were keeping
track of the research. They were stretched thin and could not try every
promising technique. They wasted no time.
Haste makes waste. Yet, they should have taken full notice of what
Thermacore had
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Why you put a negative spin on this is beyond me? It is the best news you
could have reported. IT WORKS!
The concern is, at least for me, is why the reactor goes quiescent.
McKubre says that once his Pd/D
Hi there,
Rossi was just on the Smart Scarecrow Show. There were some new
information / clarification (although I can't remember them all; the
information below should be correct however I sometimes had problems
understanding Rossi because of a pretty low audio quality and me not
being a
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
I was assuming time to switch on of about 5 minute, taken from defkalion
(most of my computation are from defkalion hyperion)
I do not know whether we should call
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Turbines are kind of slow to respond to controls. Jet engine aircraft are
less responsive than propeller-driven ones. There was a gas turbine
automobile prototype in the 1970s. I do not know what it was like to
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:54:16 -0800:
Hi,
I think the price of the 10 kW modules is just a projected price, and is
probably more likely to be a manufacturing cost price than what he can really
sell them for. Furthermore, I think that when the factory for the small
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:59:31 -0300:
Hi,
[snip]
Maybe the solution is what Fidel Castro proposed recently: replace the
US president with a robot.
They already did that decades ago. ;^)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
In the interview, Rossi said the customer price would be $500 for a 10
kW E-Cat.
AG
On 1/15/2012 10:57 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:54:16 -0800:
Hi,
I think the price of the 10 kW modules is just a projected price, and is
probably
Rossi says the domestic E-Cat is in UL certification.
AG
On 1/15/2012 10:57 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:54:16 -0800:
Hi,
I think the price of the 10 kW modules is just a projected price, and is
probably more likely to be a
In reply to Aussie Guy E-Cat's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:04:53 +1030:
Hi,
[snip]
In the interview, Rossi said the customer price would be $500 for a 10
kW E-Cat.
AG
I sincerely hope it is. :)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Size of a portable computer. Refill works like refilling a ball point pen.
AG
On 1/15/2012 11:09 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Aussie Guy E-Cat's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:04:53 +1030:
Hi,
[snip]
In the interview, Rossi said the customer price would be $500 for a 10
kW
From Aussie:
Rossi says the domestic E-Cat is in UL certification.
Is in UL certification? Not sure I understand the phrase in as it's
being used here. Does Rossi mean his eCats are currently being tested for UL
certification?
How could Rossi's eCats possibly get UL certification this soon?
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
Why you put a negative spin on this is beyond me? It is the best news you
could have reported. IT WORKS!
Works, yes ... for a short time. But is it cost effective? - not on this
planet. Will it make a dent in fossil fuel use? - not on this
On 12-01-14 06:59 PM, Wolf Fischer wrote:
Hi there,
Rossi was just on the Smart Scarecrow Show. There were some new
information / clarification
...
4. Price of the Home Ecat is down to 500$
5. Ecat is thought for heating the home, not for heating the water for
showering etc.
6. Refueling
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:02 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
From Aussie:
Rossi says the domestic E-Cat is in UL certification.
Is in UL certification? Not sure I understand the phrase in as it's
being used here. Does Rossi mean his eCats are
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat
Why you put a negative spin on this is beyond me? It is the best news you
could have reported. IT WORKS!
Works, yes ... for a short time. But is it cost effective?
Mary spin it anyway you try, you were wrong. Rossi does have a customer,
he did ship the plant, it does work and produce excess heat, there are
control issues, so what, you expect there would not be control issues.
They will be fixed.
Main point is Mary your original analysis and statement
Mary,
Spin it anyway you try, you were wrong. Rossi does have a customer, he
did ship the plant, it does work and produce excess heat, there are
control issues, so what, you expect there would not be control issues.
They will be fixed.
Main point is Mary your original analysis and statement
Steven,
That is what Rossi has said. Listed to the interview. He is working with
UL to get the home unit certified. That means he has the final
production unit working as UL don't certify prototypes. They will
however work with a company on the final product so as to obtain
certification and
What I learned from the interview.
10 kW home E-Cat is the size of a portable computer.
Rossi calls the recharges Energy Sticks, fits with the ball point pen
refill statement.
Replacement is simple and can be done by anyone.
No H2 canisters used. Reactor stores and recycles the H2. Only
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
What I learned from the interview.
10 kW home E-Cat is the size of a portable computer.SNIP
Just curious -- you believe all that? Some of that? None of that?
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary spin it anyway you try, you were wrong. Rossi does have a customer,
he did ship the plant, it does work and produce excess heat, there are
control issues, so what, you expect there would not be control
They will however work with a company on the final product so as
to obtain certification and they understand the final product
may need some tweaking to get their stamp.
Aussie, I confess that at present you have me at a disadvantage. I have not
yet listened to the interview. I plan to listen
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
These prices are just plain silly.
He's going to manufacture furnaces for the home for $500 each.
Sure he is, like I really believe that...
On the contrary, it is quite believable. The device is only 10 kW, which is
not enough to heat an entire
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven,
That is what Rossi has said. Listed to the interview. He is working with UL
to get the home unit certified. That means he has the final production unit
working as UL don't certify prototypes. They will
Mary,
As for what I believe, well I have done my homework. I'm ready to buy a
1 MW high temp plant that we can link to a 350 kW steam turbine with all
the tricky bits to make it as efficient as we can. Rossi knows it and he
knows how I will test it. He requested me to wait until he had
Terry,
I thought CE certification was largely self certification with the
manufacturer claiming his product meets all applicable standards. What
way, if it doesn't, a CE certifier doesn't get sued, the manufacturer does.
AG
On 1/15/2012 1:12 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at
Steven,
I have been involved with UL certification. You first send them a unit
for their analysis. Then following their initial report, you make a few
changes to tweak the product so it will pass.
AG
On 1/15/2012 1:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
They will however work
I wrote:
He's going to manufacture furnaces for the home for $500 each.
Sure he is, like I really believe that...
On the contrary, it is quite believable. The device is only 10 kW, which
is not enough to heat an entire house. . . .
I meant the pricing is believable. The price points are
Jed,
I agree. I did once design embedded control systems. The cost to Rossi
would be around $10, especially in the 1m unit pricing. Electronics
today is done for almost nothing. Retail price can however be 1,000s of
time higher, especially if you must buy that failed controller from a
single
Mary,
From what I know, there was nothing said that seemed to be out of place.
Rossi's earlier Door Knob copper reactor could reach the 10 - 20 kW
power level. It was a VERY simple design. If that is what is at the
heart of the home E-Cat, Rossi will make a fortune selling 10 kW units
for
Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 7:27 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:54:16 -0800:
Hi,
I think the price of the 10 kW modules is just a projected price, and is
probably more likely to be a manufacturing cost price than what he
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry,
I thought CE certification was largely self certification with the
manufacturer claiming his product meets all applicable standards. What way,
if it doesn't, a CE certifier doesn't get sued, the
Another guess...If it is a military organization, based in (North)
America and starts with the letter N, maybe its NORAD.
NORAD could use a LENR power plant to power their underground bunkers.
Harry
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
AG,
I am just
FYI
Factors affecting recrystallization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recrystallization_(metallurgy)
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
'Quiescence' – a detailed causation speculation.
My theory of E-Cat operation states that polycrystalline tubercle
At this time I bet being in certification means Rossi is in
discussions with the certifier to see if the test environment can be
secured.
Harry
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven,
I have been involved with UL certification. You first send
Jed,
Rossi is onto a winner here.
Look at the earlier copper pipe Door Knob style reactor. It produced in
the 10 to 20 kW range, same as the home E-Cat. Put it in a case, a few
fittings for the fluid, small mirco for control, small transformerless
power supply, wraparound heater, RFG coil, a
Harry,
That is how the UL certification process starts. They do an analysis and
give you a prelim report on what needs to be tweaked to get
certification. They will work with a company during the development
stage as well. Just you need to pay them.
AG
On 1/15/2012 3:57 PM, Harry Veeder
1.6 hours long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5cG-36Bag
Recrystallization temperatures for different metals…
Nickel---600C,
Iron---450C,
Copper---200C,
Aluminum---150C,
Zinc---Room Temperature,
As depicted in the table above, even if copper can be used as a replacement
for Nickel in the Rossi reaction, the operating temperature of copper
Listening to the interview again.
Home E-Cat reactor is the size of a package of cigarettes. Smaller than
I thought but still based on the flat reactor assembly as used in the
Fat E-Cats.
AG
On 1/15/2012 4:26 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
1.6 hours long
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