Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Axil Axil
IF you can confine a few thousand electrons in a small enough volume, then the coulomb barrier in that small volume would be reduced enough for fusion tunneling to occur. There are a number of ways to confine a group of electrons for the required time interval. One way is to use

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 4:13 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid

[Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
friends, this is just an idea I want to put into discussion. The background is, that although LENR maybe proven, there is a gap between theory and experiment. Apart from the experiment-setup itself, we have the diagnostic tools. Which are a) in-process: a1) nuclear particle detection a2) He_x

Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 11:52 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging This is a typical example: Surface Analysis of hydrogen loaded nickel alloys

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread fznidarsic
Did that. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html#Pg6 Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid nitrogen, to avoid self interference with the experiment. 8THz blackbody is a peak around 140K, so 71K is far away from that peak. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:13 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid nitrogen, to avoid self interference with the experiment. 8THz blackbody is a peak around 140K, so 71K is far away from that peak. Unfortunately, the reactions are known to be

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: fznidar...@aol.com fznidar...@aol.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 15:07 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed Did that. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html#Pg6 

[Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I covered this subject in the book. Here are some updated thoughts about various systems. *Telecommuting* Still the best answer for most work-related transportation needs. I predict this will be the best solution forever. At least on one planet. Obviously would not work well between the Earth

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Vorl Bek
They have human drivers so they are expensive. The drivers are often surly... A slur such as 'surly' surely does not apply to the great majority of drivers.

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:40 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed Unfortunately, the reactions are known to

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:30 PM 4/5/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: The idea was doing something cheap, right? Yes. Cheap carbon dioxide laser? If we could get direct stimulation in the range of 8 - 22 ThZ, great! That would replace the two visible light lasers. However, I'm not clear if the far infrared would

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:40 PM 4/5/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Gamma sources could be placed so that gammas pass through the supposedly active heavy electron patches, and, if W-L theory is real, drastic

[Vo]:Terahertz stimulation - there is a possible way to use cryogenics

2012-04-06 Thread Jones Beene
As Günter and Abd suggest - chilling Ni-H is probably not going to work in typical LENR cells for a myriad of reasons, slanted more towards the practical than towards the theoretical. BUT that conclusion is based on specific assumptions that can possibly be circumvented. At least we should

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:55 PM 4/5/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: You are right - I did not intend to sound dogmatic. Great. I am beginning to wonder whether a couple of different phenomena, perhaps sharing a common denominator, are occurring - depending on experimental materials and procedures.

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:37 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation If we look carefully at the new territory, we may find many beasts. Assuming

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-06 Thread pagnucco
Abd, It is not obvious what you want to falsify. The paper by Pendry - Low Frequency Plasmons in Thin Wire Structures - JB Pendry http://www.cmth.ph.ic.ac.uk/photonics/Newphotonics/pdf/wires.pdf - presents very simple calculation (based on wires array geometry) of nanowire surface conduction

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-06 Thread Axil Axil
There are a number of constrains we must meet to get a positive result. One of these constrains is that the reaction takes place in a lattice comprising an even atomic numbered host metallic element. Gold will not work with an atomic number of 79. Tungsten at 74, Platinum at 78, nickel at 28,

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
But the experiment was done in the MHz range... 2012/4/6 fznidar...@aol.com Did that. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html#Pg6 Maybe it is the case of cooling the experiment with liquid nitrogen, to avoid self interference with the experiment. 8THz blackbody is a peak around

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
That is another alternative, though, why not heat it with ultrasound? BTW, does the experimenters take care in figuring how the material was produced in relation to its lattice structure? Maybe the experiments do not go right so frequently because they rely on stimulate the lattice in specific

[Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Axil Axil
To the highest possible extent, the lattice should be devoid of flaws to minimize random phonon reflections(RPR). RPR will disrupt the phonon resonance pattern that the lattice heat stimulant is producing. A flawed lattice could be the reason for inconsistent results in many experiments.

Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread Alain Sepeda
another malthusianst reasoning that will be proved false once again... I was convinced in 85 that it will hard to have transistor below 1µm... I laugh today of my lack of imagination. 2012/4/6 fznidar...@aol.com

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Drowning Trout
I know I've already mentioned Evacuated Tube Transports in another topic (similar to SwissMetro), but I feel the benefits of such a system have not been fully realized. ETT could easily be built with current existing technologies, its just a matter of engineering, and gathering resources

Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com An: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com Gesendet: 20:27 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging Thermal imaging is more *intuitive*  than thermocouples and caloritmetric calculations, and that makes it more

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, the cause of CF is probably not phonon resonance. Otherwise, how could small grains used by ahern, with around 1000 atoms could produce heat? Or maybe, that's a reason why phonon resonance works better with such small clusters? Such small particles tend to organize themselves, spontaneously,

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Axil Axil
The long term accumulation and concentration of electrostatic charge (1,000 to 2,000 electrons) is one major cause of cold fusion. Phonon resonance may produce this accumulation and concentration but it is not the only cause. Charge may accumulate near the interface bounderies of two metals as

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 20:33 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed To the highest possible extent, the lattice should be devoid of flaws to

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
The boundary do not have more than 100 atoms. I think it wouldn't be able to sustain so much charge. 2012/4/6 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com The long term accumulation and concentration of electrostatic charge (1,000 to 2,000 electrons) is one major cause of cold fusion. Phonon resonance may

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: A slur such as 'surly' surely does not apply to the great majority of drivers. Perhaps you have not taken many taxies in Atlanta or New York City. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Drowning Trout drowningtro...@gmail.com wrote: -Assuming a straight global backbone ET3 track, the speeds could reach up to 2000mph . . . I think that is a really, really bad idea. If something goes wrong with the control system for few milliseconds, the train would collide with the wall and

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:48 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots I think that is a really, really bad idea. The reason I'm not very sympathetic to

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: VTOL aircraft traffic can be high density and eventually it will be fully automated. Conventional fossil fuel VTOL can have higher traffic density than regular aircraft because the aircraft can slow down or hover before landing, whereas regular airplanes have to keep moving in a

[Vo]:Is positive/practical LENR the ultimate catastrophe?

2012-04-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Well.   This might sound counterintuitive to the crowd.   But I seriously think about that. Our society is so deformed by propaganda and consumerism, that it is not evident, how society would come to its senses, so to say, from day1 to day2.   The eminent person in this list,  aware of this

[Vo]:Robot aircar taxies and ground taxies would provide another degree of freedom

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
In the thread about airplanes that convert to cars, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: It's another degree of freedom. For those of us who are private pilots, we have a tremendous range of territory at our finger tips. We can fly 1,000 miles for a weekend trip, but many airports

Re: [Vo]:Is positive/practical LENR the ultimate catastrophe?

2012-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: Being a cultivated Dystopian, -sorry- I actually cannot see anything else than a dystopian future SQUARED, if we do not get rid of some preconceptions, which are deeply ingrained into our -especially American- minds. Which is the idea of

Re: [Vo]:Is positive/practical LENR the ultimate catastrophe?

2012-04-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
I may begin to agree with you if Americans in this forum remotely represent Joe Q. Public Americans at large in the society. Clearly, the sampling of Americans in this forum as well as the experssed purpose of this forum should make it clear that members of this forum are NOT representative of

Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging

2012-04-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Guenter, Your idea of Thermal Imaging is worthwhile, but is severly limited by available technologies. For instance, I could not find a reasonably priced and easilty available Sight Glass pipe fitting that is rated for 1000 psi and 1000K; otherwise, I would immediately implement a camera

Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of LENR using dual lasers, creative engineering needed

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I want to thank Guenter for thinking about this and taking the time to write it out. Comments interspersed. At 01:58 AM 4/6/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 4:13 Freitag, 6.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Stimulation of

Re: [Vo]:Calorimetry versus Thermal imaging

2012-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:52 AM 4/6/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: friends, this is just an idea I want to put into discussion. The background is, that although LENR maybe proven, there is a gap between theory and experiment. Apart from the experiment-setup itself, we have the diagnostic tools. Which are a)

Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Peak oil will be severe problem and it may cause some problems if cold fusion is not going to come into rescue. It is no secret that current transportation systems are too heavily based on oil and there are no viable alternatives for oil. On resource consumption, agriculture consumes more

[Vo]:Fukushima pool #4 presents a potential nightmare

2012-04-06 Thread Mark Goldes
Former UN advisor: If No. 4 pool collapses I’ve been told “during 50 years, you cannot contain” Nuclear Expert: Fukushima spent fuel has 85 times more cesium than released at Chernobyl — “It would destroy the world environment and our civilization… http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html

[Vo]:Experiment re nucleus.

2012-04-06 Thread Mark Goldes
This appeared at ZPEnergy.com today and may contain bits of interest. WGUGLINSKI writes: Is there need a New Physics for explaining cold fusion ? It seems most quantum theorists believe that there is no need a New Physics for explaining cold fusion occurrence. For instance, the Widom-Larsen