RE: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Just two things of interest: 1) This doesn't take extreme conditions of pressure and temp to make the diamonds. the 'bulk' mixture came up to 120degC, and was at atmospheric pressure; so it must be the extreme conditions inside the cavitating bubbles that is causing the diamond

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Cy Cle c...@inbox.lv wrote: Florida Again, Maybe if you can rid yourself of that horrible infestation of Republicans and Hurricanes we could talk. T

[Vo]:3D printing: Efforts to make them more affordable for the masses

2012-08-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
See: http://www.txchnologist.com/2012/3-d-printing-revolution-stymied-by-high-pri ces http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/usd/store/3dtouch%E2%84%A2-3d-printer-double-he ad Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread Bob Higgins
In the story below, I doubt that the chunk of polyethylene was bigger than a 1 cm cube. Presume for the moment that Strong used HDPE, having a density of 0.94g/cm^3. This would mean that the cube weighed about 0.94g. With two H (atomic mass 1) for each C (atomic mass 12), the the cube would be

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread Harry Veeder
This is a magnetic overunity device? Harry On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:54 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Serendipitously came across this company… anyone familiar with them? http://terawatt.com/ecm1/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=17Itemid=187 They have a very

RE: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread Jones Beene
Another mystery explosion to add to the list - is the AZF fertilizer plant in France, which conspiracy theorist usually to attribute to terrorism ... http://rt.com/news/the-azf-explosion-of-toulouse-a-judicial-mystery/ There are a number of other fertilizer or ammonium explosions with high body

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
Looks like it to me. Approx. 5:1 gain @ 20 hz. Looks like gain may continue rising steeply past 20 hz. Wonder what it will do @ 60? At least their website is nicer than the Rohner bros... Lots of x men in black listed on the staff On Tuesday, August 28, 2012, Harry Veeder wrote: This is a

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
the mainstream theory on AZF, that seems rational is that some unwarned temporary worked have put some unmarked bags of chemical... in fact the workers were stealing chloride for the swiming pool around, using unmarked bags. This was one of that bag that have been thrown on the heap of

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
There is nothing odd with these explosions. They store thousands of tons for sale, so it is expected that in case of accident, they will explode like nukes. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread David Roberson
This thread leaves me wondering about the manifestations of other LENR accidents of the past that were not understood. Do any of our vort members recall references to similar occurrences that were merely brushed aside as unknown? I am searching for incidents where an obviously large amount

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread John Page
Looks to me like it might be a honeypot site. Google honeypot (computing) Then check out Terawatt's Privacy Policy. Then check out the people listed on their staff. Maybe a US Government contract to catch or monitor foreign government hackers. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
Hello Jojo:   One thing to consider is the opposite of high speed kinetic movement.  K. P. Sinha induced LENR by using a laser and REMOVING energy from the system.  And Kim theorizes that Bose-Einstein Condensates are the primary cause, which points again to a REMOVAL of energy from the system. 

Re: [Vo]:Obscure possible LENR explosion

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/fisker-karma-owner-blames-house-fire-car-offended-204708241.html http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/21/business/la-fi-autos-volt-20120121 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
I believe unless you remove energy from the condensate, the energy radiated from the collapse of matter will instantly heat the condensate and quench further collapse since you reach new thermodynamic stability. Possibly the only way to counteract that (beyond removing heat) is a stronger

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
Whazzit? (From PIA16101_fig1) T attachment: Martian Skull.png

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Whazzit? (From PIA16101_fig1) More. attachment: Martian Fish.png

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Whazzit? (From PIA16101_fig1) More. Again. attachment: Martian Tortoise.png

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Whazzit? (From PIA16101_fig1) More. Again. Construction artifact.

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
From PIA1601.jpg My wifey found this little fellow with the beard. attachment: Martian Bearded.png

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: From PIA1601.jpg My wifey found this little fellow with the beard. And this creature seems to have one of his eyes in his mouth. attachment: Martian Meatball.png

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
Yes, removing energy is the key to forming the BEC.  Note that the current Secretary of Energy, Steven Chu, won his Nobel Prize by using laser cooling to form the first pure BEC.    There is actually a real upside to this approach, in that we would be playing in Chu's back yard and he would

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Axil Axil
On the face of it, there seems to be an engineering dilemma associated with the concept of removing kinetic energy from atoms in designing a mechanism to produce power from heat. But we can do what we want to do if we take another tack. At the end of the day, the formation of an entangled

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
In essence, what Jojo is proposing is his own version of a Designer material.  It would prove doubtful that carbon nanotubes would end up being the preferred substrate for LENR in the future, due to cost compared to simple Nickel or even Palladium.    One of the things that needs to be

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree. I believe a metallic lattice is probably a crude first attempt at harnessing this effect but will be discarded quickly once other types of engineered confinement and/or isolation is designed. I also can't stop thinking about what TerraWatt and the original Papp Engine are/were possibly

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
Terawatt.com sure reminds me of Steorn.com T

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Whazzit? (From PIA16101_fig1) His eyes are too close together to be very intelligent. ;-) T attachment: Martian Skull.png

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson Can you supply some links? The bearded dude: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681068main_pia16104-full_full.jpg Remember how much fun we had with

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
They appear more legit to me and with alot of big names on the board, for what that is worth. I am going to guess if that device sees wear and tear and premature failures, they will occur between the surfaces of those magnets on the magnetic oscillator where all of the uncertainty takes place...

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:52 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: They appear more legit to me and with alot of big names on the board, for what that is worth. Yeah, but what is their involvement. I know lots of people who sit on boards if companies who have no idea of why they are

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson Can you supply some links? The bearded dude: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681068main_pia16104-full_full.jpg Where's Waldo?

RE: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681068main_pia16104-full_full.jpg Remember how much fun we had with Spirit and Opportunity? The blueberries? We're gonna have a blast with Curiosity and piss off a lot of newcomers! Thanks for supplying the link, Terry. I expanded the image to 100% on my

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 28, 2012 à 6:49 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com a écrit : http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681068main_pia16104-full_full.jpg The high resolution image is fantastic. It reminds me of parts of the western US. If you were in a space suit, it would be tempting to take your helmet

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Have they modified the colors in this image? To what end? T

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Have they modified the colors in this image? To what end? You can get the raw images: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/ I saw the

Re: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 28, 2012 à 8:11 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com a écrit : I saw the images last night before they added captions. I siriusly doubt they have manipulated images. That would take a lot of time and money. I remember reading somewhere that some images are being processed to look as

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
To me their privacy policy looks like a lot of other web sites - in fact better than some. But yeah, that is a really weird list of people and their backgrounds for a technology start-up, no matter what you may think of their technology. Jeff On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:10 AM, John Page

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Or perhaps you meant something in the Terms of Use page? On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: To me their privacy policy looks like a lot of other web sites - in fact better than some. But yeah, that is a really weird list of people and their backgrounds for

RE: [Vo]:Curiouser and curiouser

2012-08-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Eric I remember reading somewhere that some images are being processed to look as though they were taken under terrestrial light in order to make it easier for scientists to identify certain details, but I may be remembering things incorrectly. It's my understanding that occasionally