[Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm facing edge of the monitor. Another person from the list has emailed me privately to say they felt something very subtle in their hand inline with the horizontal line running through an

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
To the RIGHT side of your monitor. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:00 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm facing edge of the monitor. Another person from the list has emailed me

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Mark Snoswell
LOL – Copper is incredibly mobile with a vapour pressure several orders of magnitude higher then Nickel at the same temperature. Even at 950C the copper vapour is spreading is spreading copper everywhere… almost as annoying as all the inconsistencies in Rossi’s patent. From: David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
BTW an added interesting detail. I am finding that my hand can deflect the energy making there little to feel. So to feel it, one should have your hand a few feet away from the screen inline with the assumed output and bring it in closer. Just waving it up and down close to the right side of the

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread MJ
Have tried every image you posted and feel nothing besides the heat from the monitor's backlight. In hope, Mark Jordan On 19/4/2013 09:51, John Berry wrote: BTW an added interesting detail. I am finding that my hand can deflect the energy making there little to feel. So to

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Hmm... this may be the first time that the particular detail about copper metal vapor has come up, but it raises the issue (if Rossi could be believed) ... about copper vapor and an internal laser. It could be inadvertent lasing but providing a window in his reactor could indicate that it is

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:05 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: To the RIGHT side of your monitor. Does it matter if your monitor is a CRT, LED or LCD?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Rothwell has been saying for some time that the underneath the clown costume, Rossi is a brilliant inventor and that the is method in his madness. To clarify, that is what people who have worked with him tell me. He does have a solid track record in

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
I had multiple orgasms that lasted 2 hours. 2013/4/19 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:05 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: To the RIGHT side of your monitor. Does it matter if your monitor is a CRT, LED or LCD? -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Teslaalset
Or is the copper vapour forming a catalytic layer on the Nickel to have Hydrogen absorbed faster On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: So, this is why Rossi claimed to have nickel converted into copper and recently says this is not the case

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread James Bowery
You've got a hypothesis: A specific configuration, presented as treatment of experimental subjects, produces an effect -- even if only an enhancement of the placebo effect. The null hypothesis upon which to base the control experiment: Even though a placebo effect may be present and in fact

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
The previous post on copper-hydride lasing was unclear. The suggestion is that there is a remote possibility that Rossi could be achieving internal photon coherency from copper hydride vapor. He would want the coherency and not the beam. The photon coherency inside the reactor would then be

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Gibson Elliot
John Left side of the monitor for the energy flow, correct? That's where I got the sensation. Warm on the left, cool on the right. I agree that there is  allegorical information to suggest that Aether does respond to the mind. Look at the Orgone research, and M-State materials. All fringe

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Alexander Hollins
umm... what? I'm missing something. A drawing is supposed to be generating an energy flow? On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4113/shooterv6.png Place your palm to the side of your monitor with palm facing edge of the

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Gibson Elliot
John Ok, I didn't read the email discussing the approach to the test. Makes some sense. I was one of those waving my hand up and down 3 inches from the side of the monitor, LOL. I'll try a few things at home this weekend where my co-workers wont think I'm completely nuts! By the way, LENR,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread Alexander Hollins
I apologize, I just started reading these posts. That is an interesting idea, but I continue to have a difficult time accepting the concept that there is one special velocity to use as a reference. Really? I'm going to have to delve into this, because my primary issue with relativity and physics

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Alexander Hollins
I do feel a minor vibration in my right palm when holding both hands to teh monitor. I KINDA feel what i could describe as a sucking feeling on my left, it is too minor to differentiate from placebo to me, but the vibration was an effect of muscles i could see on the skin, so a positive effect of

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread Harry Veeder
You do a double blind trial by automating the process and covering the screen. Program a computer to randomly display one of your images or a blank screen every minute of so. The computer will keep a record of what was displayed during each time interval. During the interval test subjects will

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread Harry Veeder
I think you should also do a version where passive images are printed paper and kept in sealed envelopes. A video image is an active image in the sense that it requires an electrical power source to be present. As a result a video image might channel or focus EM fields and radiation in such a way

Re: [Vo]:ISCMNS article at Wikipedia up for deletion.

2013-04-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 9:08:35 AM Someone informed me that the ISCMNS article at Wikipedia is up for deletion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Society_for_Condensed_Matter_Nuclear_Science I did not know there is an article on

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Fri 4/19 Alex said [snip] I continue to have a difficult time accepting the concept that there is one special velocity to use as a reference.[/snip]. Alex, That is not what I am saying, in fact the velocities are so different below the Planck scale we have wormholes forming to

Re: [Vo]:Some info from Steorn's research

2013-04-19 Thread Analog Fan
Steorn might have relevant in 2007 when that video was made. Since then they failed to deliver any working devices, disbanded their validation jury and fan club, and dumped the Orbo tech in order to pursue overunity water heaters. At this point only Sterling Allan takes them seriously. Logic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:53:22 AM How would the nickel/hydrogen mixture be at a lower temperature than the region that completely surrounds it? Heat would travel toward the cooler center until it was in equilibrium. Dave In between the

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Thanks for giving it a try. And thanks for reporting back. I have had some people who have been unable to feel anything for an extended number of tries, but still felt it eventually, or occasionally (comes and goes). I don't expect you to be so persistent as that. John On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
All should work, but it does make a difference. LED/LCD seems best, I have not yet tried it on a CRT. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:05 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: To the RIGHT side of your monitor. Does

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread leaking pen
have you tried printing it out? On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: All should work, but it does make a difference. LED/LCD seems best, I have not yet tried it on a CRT. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri,

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
This has been disclosed in the thread: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here? Short version: After 18-19 years of researching the aether (which is a gas/fluidic substance that makes up everything) I have found that Terrahertz EM fields (AKA visible light) can effect (structure) the

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Yes, printed works. Although differently in many ways, good lighting helps as does a decent printer, additionally I am sure some images are all too subtle in their use of colours for printing to work well. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: have you tried

[Vo]:Is the Evidence for Psychokinesis really just a publication bias?

2013-04-19 Thread Harry Veeder
This paper uses a meta analysis of all the evidence and concludes that any evidence for psychokinesis can be explained as publication bias. Should the conclusion be taken seriously? Similar arguments have been used to prove that PF effect is not real, i.e include all the failed attempts to

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:57 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: So, let me ask you again for an acceptable control experiment but in different terms: What sort of picture does your theory predict will be very similar to the experimental treatment picture, but lack the essential

Re: [Vo]:Is the Evidence for Psychokinesis really just a publication bias?

2013-04-19 Thread James Bowery
I find it intriguing that they didn't cite Radin's paper: http://www.boundaryinstitute.org/bi/articles/rngma.pdf that explicitly addresses publication bias aka the file drawer problem in meta analysis -- and that was despite referencing several of Radin's other papers both before and after.

[Vo]:Placebo effect probably does not exist

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The null hypothesis upon which to base the control experiment: Even though a placebo effect may be present and in fact much larger . . . This is drifting off topic, so let me rename the header. I do not think the placebo effect exists. I read several

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:57 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: So, let me ask you again for an acceptable control experiment but in different terms: What sort of picture does your theory predict will be

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect probably does not exist

2013-04-19 Thread James Bowery
Well placebo effect is one thing when we're talking about physical maladies and quite another when we're talking about subjective impressions, as was the topic. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The null

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Mark, I have made a new one especially for you. Now this image deals heavily with colour so it may not work if your monitor or videocard is at fault. Feel about 1.5 to 2 feet away from the image, this will make it easier to tell the sensation apart from the monitor and will give the image more

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Do you have any idea whether the inactive one would frequently be made active by variations in display setttings? Not very likely. There are various difficulties, not that it should stop you but you should be aware of them. Aetheric energy can couple over large distances, additionally it

[Vo]:OT: Boston satellite view

2013-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=67+franklin+st+watertown+massie=UTF-8hq=hn ear=0x89e378195bfc6943:0x45ca5a08ed9dc5fe,67+Franklin+St,+Watertown,+MA+0247 2gl=usei=8N1xUZjhLsmw2QXZw4A4ved=0CDQQ8gEwAA Someone posted the google satellite view - of the address of where the suspect was hiding in a boat

Re: [Vo]:OT: Boston satellite view

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
The CIA (or it's predecessor) had apparent genuine interest in the ideas from Get Smart (as crazy as that sound). I can't help but wonder if the TV Program Person of Interest is causing similar but more secretive interest. Of course the TV program could be a fictional disclosure of something

[Vo]:Placebo effect getting stronger

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
I said that the placebo effect had about doubled in effectiveness over what it had been. Someone asked for the source. I am sure a better search of google will turn up more info on that, but here is an article about it getting more effective without (I think) mentioning a doubling:

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect getting stronger

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Actually, it does say that: One estimated that the so-called effect size (a measure of statistical significance) in placebo groups had nearly doubled over that time. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I said that the placebo effect had about doubled in

Re: [Vo]:Can a Free Electron Absorb a Photon?

2013-04-19 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:18:08 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] Does anyone know how a free electron in space can absorb a photon of moderate energy? I was thinking of the interaction between a light photon and a free electron when it occurred to me that it might be

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect probably does not exist

2013-04-19 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The null hypothesis upon which to base the control experiment: Even though a placebo effect may be present and in fact much larger . . . This is drifting off topic, so let me

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect probably does not exist

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Well placebo effect is one thing when we're talking about physical maladies and quite another when we're talking about subjective impressions, as was the topic. True. That's why I started another thread. I meant placebo in the medical sense. But in other

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect probably does not exist

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: That is, an effect in which a prognosis improves because the patients think they are being treated when they are actually taking by fake medicine (something with no efficacy). One hypothesis is that people respond well because they think the doctor

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect getting stronger

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
If the studies I read are correct, this indicates the disease they are trying to cure with this particular drug usually goes away on its own. The placebo effect is not getting stronger. They happen to be treating a disease in a group of people where nature usually does a better job than medical

Re: [Vo]:OT: Boston satellite view

2013-04-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: How long will it be before we can see the entire action live from a satellite in real time? I am indeed a wacko like Orr, but you should fly with me: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg78280.html

Re: [Vo]:OT: Boston satellite view

2013-04-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orr_(Catch-22) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: How long will it be before we can see the entire action live from a satellite in real time? I am

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect getting stronger

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
This is obviously a complex issue. But I think that strong belief as with hypnosis and other suggestions can't be discounted (faith healers). There are people who have apparently died from being made to think they they were having blood drain from their bodies. And if someone goes into surgery

Re: [Vo]:Placebo effect getting stronger

2013-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
I suppose an alternative hypothesis would be that these particular diseases are psychosomatic. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Alexander Hollins alexander.holl...@gmail.com wrote: I do feel a minor vibration in my right palm when holding both hands to teh monitor. I KINDA feel what i could describe as a sucking feeling on my left, it is too minor to differentiate from placebo to me,

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
Please read this entire email, but if you don't, just read this: *So what evidence exists for there not being an entrained aether?* *None.* You could argue that nothing really proves anything. Even atoms are still just considered a theory, sure a popular one with tons of evidence. Atoms are of

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: You could argue that nothing really proves anything. Even atoms are still just considered a theory, sure a popular one with tons of evidence. Yes, good point. When it comes down to it, nobody has seen an atom. It's

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
On 4/19/2013 10:03 PM, John Berry wrote: So what evidence exists for there not being an entrained aether? None. Hi. I'm new here. Hello! Howdy. Today is the first day I've heard of entrained aether. My naive questions are: 1. How much mass does it take to entrain aether? 2. Does the

Re: [Vo]:New more powerful image

2013-04-19 Thread John Berry
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.comwrote: You could argue that nothing really proves anything. Even atoms are still just considered a theory, sure a popular one with tons of evidence.