Actually, this is something I noticed in arxiv, pre prints of people
outside theoretical physics, have the appearance of being done in word
processors. They are later edited to the final form in journals.
2013/5/22 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Michele
So in a sense the elimination of fakes is cumulative.
Bear in mind that when Rossi says he has something he tends to follow up on it.
(Maybe not exactly as promised, but close to it).
Let's accept for the moment the OUTPUT analysis : it DOES produce the
documented COP.
Electrical INPUT is a
I'm wondering if Levi and al checked the quality of the electrical power! On
the topic regarding electrical measurements the report says that the
measurements were done with a PCE-830. The PCE-830 monitored the 3 phases
only and computed the energy consumption with data collected on the 3
phases.
Just adding a link to the register article.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/22/e_cat_test_claims_success_yet_again/
On 22/05/2013 5:55 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote:
I'm wondering if Levi and al checked the quality of the electrical power!
On
the topic regarding
You propose that the coulomb barrier is structured differently from how it
is normally portrayed in textbooks, and it is this difference that permits
the low temperature fusion of protons and deuterons and energy
production. Wouldn't the same difference help to explain how transmutations
can
And I'll excerpt a comment
Rossi has been challenged to do a test where the power levels in all three
wires supplying the apparatus are measured and he has refused. I have quickly
skimbled the paper and the power measurement section makes no mention of
measuring the power levels in all the
The Abstract of the paper characterises this instrument as a large bandwidth
three-phase power analyzer. I'm not seeing that. However, it also says The
116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up
without the active charge present in the E-CatHT . In this case, no
They will do a 6 months test. And do not forget the dummy, which showed
coherence with the measured input in the IR picture. There must be a
circuit inside there, which is shut off/on with the presence of the power
and resists up to 1000C.
2013/5/22 Andrew andrew...@att.net
**
I find it hard
I think that there is plenty enough benefit that Rossi has a good paying job.
He does not need to make millions out of it, but it is plenty enough that he
receives enough capital for adequate living standards.
There are plenty other similar hoaxes such as BLP, Steorn and Inteligentry who
are
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
The ECAT is made of metal if I recall correctly
I thought the first test used a ceramic.
Darn, gotta read it again.
It's steel (with different steel end caps), inside corundum ceramic, inside
silicon nitride ceramic, with a coat of paint.
Andrew
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat
Hi Dennis,
I like the idea that NI 62 might be the source of energy,
initially I balked at selection of an isotope with the highest binding energy
thinking the best candidate should exhibit the weakest binding energy and
therefore be more susceptible to an induced form of decay
Does anyone feel that the sales and marketing model for this technology is a
little odd? Why would one not immediately try and flood the market with these
devices? Rossi has a head start on the competition, and there's no reason why
he cannot maintain his lead even after they torn it apart and
Maybe that's because that he doesn't know how to make the device reliably?
2013/5/22 Andrew andrew...@att.net
**
Does anyone feel that the sales and marketing model for this technology is
a little odd? Why would one not immediately try and flood the market with
these devices? Rossi has a
Simple reasons:
a) Rossi has not solved perfectly the control problem yet;
b) He can manufacture only industrial E-cats multi-cats
c) The home cat is stll not sellable- has no certifications
and not adequate for usual no-technical users
d) Rossi has no head-start over DGT, on the contrary
e) Rossi
How so? In recent interviews he's touted the great stability of the 360 deg C
design (intended to interface with the Siemens thermoelectric gear). Also, he's
got these purported 1 MW units composed of over 100 devices. According to him
they are built, tested and delivered. According to one
Just please wait a bit.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
**
How so? In recent interviews he's touted the great stability of the 360
deg C design (intended to interface with the Siemens thermoelectric gear).
Also, he's got these purported 1 MW units composed
He is lying about stability. One of the tests showed COP of 3, the other
almost 6. Some of them do not work, others melt. And this is not the
reactor itself, it is that he doesn't know how to do the fuel properly.
It means he cannot issue a patent because not even in practice, he can
claim to
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
I think that there is plenty enough benefit that Rossi has a good
paying job. He does not need to make millions out of it, but it is
plenty enough that he receives enough capital for adequate living
standards.
This would be the world's worst way to make a living! Rossi has
No Harry, the Coulomb barrier is the same in Hot and Cold fusion. The
difference is that it is overcome very rapidly during hot fusion and
very slowly during cold fusion. That is the only difference between
the two methods. This difference results in a different behavior.
Yes, a theory
Cousin Peter wrote:
Simple reasons:
a) Rossi has not solved perfectly the control problem yet;
b) He can manufacture only industrial E-cats multi-cats
c) The home cat is stll not sellable- has no certifications
and not adequate for usual no-technical users
d) Rossi has no head-start over
Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
**
How so? In recent interviews he's touted the great stability of the 360
deg C design (intended to interface with the Siemens thermoelectric gear).
It is amazingly stable compared to other cold fusion devices. But maybe not
stable enough for commercial
The market is really infinite, real competition will develop much later
Peter
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Cousin Peter wrote:
Simple reasons:
a) Rossi has not solved perfectly the control problem yet;
b) He can manufacture only industrial
From: Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
I think that there is plenty enough benefit that Rossi has a good paying
job. He does not need to make millions out of it, but it is plenty enough
that he receives enough capital for adequate living standards.
This would be the world's worst way
Simple reasons:
a) Rossi has not solved perfectly the control problem yet;
b) He can manufacture only industrial E-cats multi-cats
c) The home cat is stll not sellable- has no certifications
and not adequate for usual no-technical users
d) Rossi has no head-start over DGT, on the contrary
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Plus, AR sold his biofuel company EON for about one million Euro and could
have retired comfortably to Miami on that income. This is a matter of
public record.
** **
Instead - he reinvests the proceeds of the EON sale into his project !
Does that
My best guess is that he partnered with a military business that has plenty
of money and expertise, but not a lot of incentive to build versions for
civilian use. For example, the US Navy, Lockheed Martin or Northrop
Grumman, etc. Siemens or GE might also want to get the technology figured
out in
h) Rossi is a typical engineer who sees imperfections and can not let go of
the design. Sometimes you have to accept the present level of performance and
go to production.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 22,
Another possibility
Maybe Rossi has some radiation source in a lead box he pulls it out and
shines it on his reactor starting it
This would be consistent with the diurnal variation some have seen that
matches the diurnal cosmic ray intensity.
Maybe the system needs a trigger
Useful information for once. As I mentioned in the other thread, scroll
down here to read the interview with Essen:
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/05/21/rossi-manipulates-academics-to-create-illusion-of-independent-test/
It begins with an idiotic statement that is self-evident, and that no
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree on all points except I know nothing about d), and I do not see how
this would prevent him from marketing.
I can't think of anything not on this list. Maybe:
f) He does not have enough capital. (Maybe? I
There are just too many positive indicators for this to be a scam. I guess the
skeptics are reaching for straws in any way they can after the release of the
third party report. Any bets as to how long they remain on the wrong side of
history?
Has everyone noticed the lack of comments from
This is why an ecosystem of cooperating yet competing business will do the
job faster, fill the holes faster, solve the error faster...
You know what I mean Peter ;-)
Monopoly is probably not the best way, neither to be rich, nor to spread
faster.
For example I'm not sure that the best product
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Plus, AR sold his biofuel company EON for about one million Euro and could
have retired comfortably to Miami on that income.
You can retire on $1.3M? Can you show me how? I think I need about $3M.
Terry,
Do you have information about the technical team that Rossi has? He may have
more help than we all believe.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The marketing model
Depends upon your retirement age. :-) $100k will work if you are 90.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jones
Excellent analysis, Jones. You have nailed the essential reason why
this is not a scam. Jed has done the same. Instead, Rossi is doing
what other people do all the time in all aspects of science and
commerce, but he is doing it under a microscope. Most similar efforts
are just as filled
We might find out how the skeptics do in Rossi's shoes soon. They are facing
some difficult times trying to prove that Rossi and the third party tests are
not accurate. I wonder how fast they can backpedal?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
To:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
They use Martin Fleischmann's favorite method of looking at the heat decay
curves when the power cycles off. Plot 5 clearly shows that the heat does
not decay according to Newton's law of cooling. There must be a heat
Vortex, are you down?
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Vortex-L is an educational organization. It does not compete with Forbes
for advertising dollars. The attribution and link goes back to Forbes.com
so they can make their money. Only the text was reposted, not the
pictures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
Copyright Act of
*maryyugo states:*
* *
*“What he means is that if the heating came, as the investigators claim,
from two small areas at the end of the device, you could see the hot spots
on the IR photos. In fact, you can't. All you see is the electrical heater.
Unless Rossi has found a way to change the
I see you
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Vortex, are you down?
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:41:33 AM
p18 The electrical power to the dummy was handled by the same
control box, but without the ON/OFF
cycle of the resistor coils. Thus, the power applied to the dummy was
continuous
That would be fine if the
The reason for the use of nickel in the Ni/H reactor is its ability to
support the development of robust dipole activity on the surface of the
micro-powder.
This makes for stronger polariton development and associated strength in
the formation of the power in the NAE..
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at
This trick would be the same as using radiation in the construction of the
E-cat at least in the minds of the certification regulators.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Paul Breed p...@rasdoc.com wrote:
Another possibility
Maybe Rossi has some radiation source in a lead box he pulls
I thought Vorts might find this amusing. It has happened to me. :-)
Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:27 AM
7:27 AM
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[EskimoNorthUsers] Re: Is Eskimo down?
To elaborate further on this, I fell asleep in the middle of a
software update that required a server
Alan, we have too many crows around here and I will capture some for you if
required.
The key thought about the temperature waveform is as follows: Rossi wants to
have the largest possible stable COP. You achieve that by allowing the
temperature of the heat producing material to reach a
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
**
The Abstract of the paper characterises this instrument as a large
bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. I'm not seeing that. However, it
also says The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the
experimental
We all know that Rossi has some personal credibility problems. He has been
involved in some dodgy business. As I have pointed out before you can say
that about many important people such as Edison and Steve Jobs who got his
start selling devices to steal from the telephone company. People are
I sketched a tentative RC mesh model. It has at LEAST 30 resistors
(more than half non-linear) and 10 Capacitors.
I can do a zero'th order model with 2 linear resistors, a capacitor and a
non-linear resistor.
(I'd have to figure out how to do a T^4 model. Maybe a lookup table)
But I still
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:19:13 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility
But they also build things that most
people think are impossible, such as the Brooklyn Bridge
Bad analogy. I hear it's for sale too.
Jed, I just want tell you as somebody with research and practical
experience in pyrolysis of organics, mainly polymers including
rubber- that the Petroldragon affair was most probably 80%
techno-blunder and 20% scam, very uninspired.The disaster
was predictable.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM,
From: Andrew andrew...@att.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem
p15 states: the TRIAC power supply has been replaced by a control
circuit having three-phase power input and single-phase output,
mounted within a box, the contents of
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote:
Vortex-L is an educational organization.
Not relevant. If Harvard wouldn't do what you did because they'd be opening
themselves up to a copyright infringement lawsuit.
It does not compete with Forbes for advertising
Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
**
My sense is that Rossi forbade them using a scope on the power feed in
order to protect proprietary drive waveform information.
This makes no sense. They measured the power going into the power supply.
How could they see the waveform there?
- Jed
The power measurements carried by the Levi's team is at least poorly
reported, or worst poorly done. As said before the power consumption they
computed in the report is not convincing at all. There was no check
(reported at least, or worst not done) of the quality of the electrical wall
plug!
Good grief. There is no argument here. Gibbs is right. Remedial action
he demands should be taken. Moreover, it is pretty clear that if O'Malley
keeps up his argumentation he should be banned.
I'm not saying ban anyone who does something dodgy with copyright but
clearly when an author demands
Someone named Flemming Ravn posted this in the Forbes discussion. This is
translated from Swedish by Google. I wish we had the original.
By the way, I hope that copying a message from the discussion is not a
copyright violation! Kevin O'Malley should stop making excuses and
apologize for that.
Hi,
I think we should take Mark's request seriously and avoid posting copyrighted
material to this list. It is not difficult to post links to articles of
interest. By using links instead of the full text, the authors get credit for
page hits from their sponsors and Vortex-L stays out of
I think it is more probable- how the device works, not if it works.
Levi says: *L'assenza di radiazione ci fa dire che se è una fonte nucleare
è comunque di natura nuova rispetto a quelle conosciute**.*
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Someone named
Jed,
This is a marvellous post. Thanks.
Andrew
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Some reasons Rossi has personal credibility
We all know that Rossi has some personal credibility problems.
Many of the comments at Forbes are toxic. The Skeptics have not given an
inch. Mary Yugo remains convinced it is fraud. She imagines she has found
many problems with it.
I am not surprised.
This will also be the reaction of many mainstream scientists. I doubt there
is any chance these tests will
Although my point about Why off limits? stands, I thank you for the
correction. As a general comment, it is quite possible to be a good
physicist and a fairly lousy electrical engineer. Comments posted here about
3-phase plus ground power have not yet been addressed.
Andrew
- Original
On 2013-05-22 21:25, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Many of the comments at Forbes are toxic. The Skeptics have not given
an inch. Mary Yugo remains convinced it is fraud. She imagines she has
found many problems with it.
Partially unrelated, but by the amount of comments, shares and facebook
likes, I
I agree with Mark, I think he is listening to the minds on Vortex and
interacting and does not deserve to have his work just copied and pasted on
the Internet. In addition to the legal aspects , he certainly is backed by
a media organization which can help further the cause of LENR over time.
At
Ed,
I am intrigued by your idea that the lack of gammas could be explained
by fusion process which happens gradually rather than suddenly as is the
case with hot fusion.
However, on the one hand you say the fusion of protons and deuterons
supplies the energy necessary to over come coulomb
One more question to be settled: Were those very proximate shipping
containers inspected and found to be empty?
Andrew
- Original Message -
From: Andrew andrew...@att.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Partially unrelated, but by the amount of comments, shares and facebook
likes, I think this article is more popular than the the one on Forbes:
http://www.extremetech.com/**extreme/156393-cold-fusion-**
Bo Höistad quote:
As a nuclear physicist, I can directly say that, based on
the well-known knowledge of core processes, the probability of nuclear
transformations that cause heat production in the E-cat vanishingly small.
This is another bit of informed opinion
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
One more question to be settled: Were those very proximate shipping
containers inspected and found to be empty?
Andrew
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15110_527605050624097_1103672604_n.jpg
Harry
My responses are designated by 3 asterisks***.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote:
Vortex-L is an educational organization.
Not relevant. If Harvard wouldn't do what you did because
Harry, calculations are useless in this case because the mechanism is
unknown to which the calculations can be applied. We know that the
mechanism for fusion and transmutation must be the same, which means
they both must occur in the same NAE. I can describe a process that
fits this
Here is a typical response from someone who sounds like an academic
scientist, over at extremetech. This is a classic example of Skeptical
thinking:
The paper is on the arXiv is a joke full with elementary errors, such as
assuming the the device is a perfect black body instead of picking a
From: Andrew andrew...@att.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:47:42 PM
One more question to be settled: Were those very proximate shipping
containers inspected and found to be empty?
It (singular) contains the 1MW warm-cat, before it was shipped. One of the
pictures shows the doors open.
Remedial action he demands should be taken.
***I have not commented on the remedial action requested by Gibbs. I have
no problem with the text copy of the article being removed if that's what
Bill decides to do. It's no big deal. The reason for posting it was for
educational purposes and not
On 2013-05-22 21:47, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Maybe there are more comments because people find the Disqus interface
easier to use than Forbes'. It allows corrections, and a popularity
vote. It is widely used these days.
Disqus is indeed more user friendly, but the amount of Facebook likes is
in
I was thinking more along the lines of near-field heating using an RF source
and lots of batteries.
Andrew
- Original Message -
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem
From:
Andrew,
At least give us some idea of how they would be used, or what could be inside,
that Rossi could use to carry out the fraud?
They are steel, and thus form a Faraday cage as does the steel cylinder which
houses the reactor core, so no way RF or IR laser could be used to remotely
heat
Like I said: dodgy -- indeed at best. This sort of debate doesn't
belong here.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Remedial action he demands should be taken.
***I have not commented on the remedial action requested by Gibbs. I have
no problem with
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:59:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Comments by Bo Hoistad
Here is a typical response from someone who sounds like an academic
scientist, over at extremetech. This is a classic example of
Skeptical thinking:
The paper is
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Disqus is indeed more user friendly, but the amount of Facebook likes is
in my opinion a very good indicator of how popular a story is.
Ah! I did not think of that. That is probably a good metric. It is still
self-selected, and not a random
I just wondered if they were verified to be empty. I ask because the report
makes no mention of this (among other things). Obviously the Faraday cage
argument is sound, so some tricky mods would be necessary. I realise this
sounds far-fetched, but I am addressing all the loopholes I can think
Electrical INPUT is a two-edged sword. It can be measured to 6
decimal places .. IF you do it correctly,
but if you don't cover ALL bases you might miss something.
(eg an AC-only meter might not notice DC, or HF AC beyond its spec).
I've come to the conclusion that the only way to overcome
Then why do you engage in the debate?As I've stated, this is an
educational organization, so at the very least we are all getting educated
on Fair Use Copyright law. We're also getting exposure to Fair Use
Policies as enforced by some corporations, which are not really in line
with the Fair
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that the only way to overcome the power-side
fake is to put a power conditioner between Rossi's power plug (maybe
miswired per Bryce etc, or with a DC component) and his control box.
That would do it. But the fact is, any $20 watt
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com quoted someone:
Thirdly, using the Stefan-Boltzmann law on anything that isn't a blackbody
isn't likely to convince me that you know what you're doing.
In the second test, they also calibrated in steps with the blank, and
compared the actual surface temperatures,
On 2013-05-22 22:11, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Ah! I did not think of that. That is probably a good metric. It is
still self-selected, and not a random group, but the extremists will
have only one vote each. If the number of likes is sufficiently high I
guess the effects of extremists at both ends
I have the same sad vision.
No hope from mainstream science to accept LENR before it fund mainstream
labs with millions, hit the dow Jones.
The real point is to let a chance to businessmen to see
the opportunity around LENR.
The problem with patho-skeptical trolls is not that you cannot convince
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: mercredi 22 mai 2013 22:19
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem : power conditioner needed
Electrical INPUT is a two-edged sword. It can be measured to 6
decimal places .. IF you
It can be done. Give it a try and you might become convinced.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem
I sketched a tentative RC mesh model. It has at
I doubt that Rossi would allow a power conditioner, because he himself states
that there is some initial RF powering going on to kickstart the device. Since
the experimenters walked up to the experiment after it had been turned on, we
don't know for sure whether the existing cabling was used to
Mark:
I just checked the article I reposted here on Vortex and I was wrong, it
did include pictures. That was not my intent -- only the text. For
posting the pictures, I apologize. Hopefully, Bill removes the article
and this incident just goes off into the sunset.
The attribution and
That's hilarious!
- Jed
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I just checked the article I reposted here on Vortex and I was wrong, it
did include pictures. That was not my intent -- only the text.
Only the text is also a violation. You should apologize. It will go off
into the sunset faster if you would
Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
There's a whole lot of detail about the input side that would benefit from
the light of day. What's required is an interview with the Swedes from
someone who understands the issues.
And who understands Swedish. Any volunteers?
- Jed
It is not a violation of the fair use law. If it were, basically every
professor I had in college would be liable for copyright violation.
Think of the money that these companies could get by just intimidating the
entire educational establishment. And why don't these companies do it,
when there
To clarify - this value of ~300 eV represents the 11th Rydberg multiple -
but in nickel represents the first 6 electron ionization potentials (not the
11th IP).
For nickel that total is 299.96 eV and the perfect fit would be 299.2 eV.
Nickel has 10 valence electrons. BTW the first five IPs of Ni
Talar ni Svenska. Not much, anyway.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Levi Hot Cat paper is a gem : power conditioner needed
Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
There's a whole lot of
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
It is not a violation of the fair use law. If it were, basically every
professor I had in college would be liable for copyright violation. . . .
Yo, Kevin:
First rule of holes. When you in one, stop digging.
- Jed
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