Don't worry Jojo, they will find something that they fear. Perhaps it will be
beach erosion or some other detrimental effect that appears when the natural
wave action is diminished.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l
There are plenty of vultures surrounding Rossi. If such a thing happened
or does happen, you'll hear about it.
a matter of opinion
***Does this mean you'll be backtracking from your earlier, stronger
statement of When a Rossi reactor melts down, the reactor goes to 2000C
and when the hydrogen
The option is that Rossi would allow that new to leak. Rossi runs a tight
ship.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
There are plenty of vultures surrounding Rossi. If such a thing happened
or does happen, you'll hear about it.
a matter of opinion
It will obviously SOMEhow contribute to global warming. Duhh. After all,
you're gonna be feeding people, right? And they contribute to global
warming. Better to have those people starve, in their opinion. blech.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
what option?
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The option is that Rossi would allow that new to leak. Rossi runs a tight
ship.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
wrote:
There are plenty of vultures surrounding Rossi.
Still above my paygrade. I don't see Muons mentioned. They're implied. I
get it. Abstract, like an artist.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs in their reactor. If the
source of that field is localized to
Imagine a flying object, maybe a sphere or cylinder for simplicity, the gas
flowing around the object has to flow around it, the gas is forced to move
around the object. Such forces need to have a pressure gradient force (
volumetric force = ∇ pressure) , and the pressure change corresponds to a
I think the rules change WRT control stimuli in run-away.. a good point was
made in earlier thread regarding the runaway where one of Rossi reactors was
seen to continue heating white hot long past the melt down temperature was
exceeded. I believe it was Axil who made the argument that the
Kevin,
Statistical is OK for loose control but in a phenomena that must be kept on the
brink of destruction / half way into runaway but being thermally bled by a heat
sink then fast control is required, hysteris on the scale of microseconds or
less.
From: Kevin O'Malley
Nahh, I don't think so.
one object at 100MPH, another object at 10,100MPH, where deltaV is
10,000. Applying the deltaT to the field around the object wouldn't make
that 100mph object go to 10,000mph.
That's not what makes rockets go so fast. It's PV=nRT. PV/nR =T
deltaPV/nR =delta T, which
microsecond statistical control is accomplished regularly through gigabit
and wifi ethernet. It is a valid example. If you're sending a billion
bits/second, you're controlling on the nanosecond level.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Axil, Kevin,
I know little about mesons but I agree with your assessments below regarding
virtual photons defining nuclear decay. I am still convinced this is a
relativistic effect where these virtual photons/vacuum pressure actually define
C for physical matter trapped in a 3D plane. That is
Kevin,
Latency will be the issue, how to instantly sense temp beyond the geometry into
the plasma itself and simultaneously couple the feedback to the plasma to
control it. I think Axil is correct regarding the spark gap of DGT, it is a
simple PWM scheme that relies on duty factor to provide
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread/
As reported in e-catworld. It seems the TIP2 testers are having a lot of
disagreements; hence the delay in the release of the report. This does not
bode well for the ECat. I have been one of a few that think too many warning
You Future of humankind.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:07:08 AM
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread/
As reported in e-catworld. It seems the TIP2 testers are having a lot of
disagreements; hence the delay in the release of the report. This does
Sure, you can be optimistic and read it that way; but it seems clear in the
context of the statements, that the Polarized opinions is the reason.
Reason for what? reason for not giving pre-statements about a timing or
content of the report. Why would any polarized outside opinion be the
I'm trying to locate an online copy of Classically Radiationless Motions
and Implications for Quantum Theory by George Goedecke.
There was supposedly a copy posted on the website of the Hydrino Study
Group back in 2000 but archive.org us under denial of service attack or
something.
Could someone
Erratum: The correct title of the paper is Classically Radiationless
Motions and Possible Implications for Quantum Theory
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm trying to locate an online copy of Classically Radiationless Motions
and Implications for
You'll have latency either way. If you take a statistical approach you
monitor far more than just temperature. You can base it on a thousand
parameters if you want. And not all of them change in microseconds.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Roarty, Francis X
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:
Jojo, you should repent before ʿĪsā:
ʿĪsā tells,
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because He has anointed me to preach
the gospel to the poor; He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, To
proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set
at liberty those who are
The scientist don't agree on what to write.
some want to write the reality
some want to write the reality
one reality is the undeniable experimental result, the other is the
infallible theory.
as said here, it is easy to imagine the testers have seen it work, and
anybody who did not see it
I am not rich, but I will soon be. Richer beyond my wildest expectations. It
was God who gave me the knowledge how to build the wave-powered pumps at a very
low cost. There is no doubt the knowledge and skill came from God to do this.
And I will give it all back to build thousands of
Obviously Jesus.
But please, do not confuse Him with Mammon.
2014-08-20 14:28 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
Who is ʿĪsā:?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the
other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot
serve both God and money.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/6-24.htm
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
This is true, there is latency either way but IMHO PWM is safer, locks you into
shutoff condition for every cycle where the most robust geometry /hotspots get
a chance to diffuse and pump out energy into the immediate vicinity without
melting closed. IMHO the constant drive will burn out the
You seem to be implying that one can not be both a Christian and Rich. If so,
I can assure you that is not the case. Here are a few examples for you:
1. Joseph was a believer and was the 2nd in command in Egypt. He was rich in
power, money and Glory
2. Abraham was very rich with
Those people were not Christians.
2014-08-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
You seem to be implying that one can not be both a Christian and Rich.
If so, I can assure you that is not the case. Here are a few examples for
you:
1. Joseph was a believer and was the
We're off the original subject so I think there's diminishing returns on
discussing the pros cons of controlling a reaction no one yet understands
and the only guy in the neighborhood with a working box is keeping mum.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Roarty, Francis X
They were believers in the true God just like Christians today. But if you
want to be picky and unreasonable about it, here are a few examples of rich
Christians.
1. Joseph of Arithmatea was rich. He owned his own private tomb hewn from a
rock. A very expensive piece of exclusive real
If they were Christians, they left all behind after convertion:
Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and
give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow
me.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-21.htm
2014-08-20 15:13 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart
I was finally able to download a very low quality scan of the paper at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010305011426/http://www.hydrino.org/Papers/Goedecke.pdf
Unfortunately, it is so low quality that it may not be practically useful.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM, James Bowery
That is a misconception. God does not require every Christian to sell all they
have and give to the poor. This command was for a specific person who was rich
and his riches was hindering him from serving God. For some Christians, riches
do not hinder them. It's simply a question of
Jojo and Daniel,
Take the religious crap offline. It doesn't belong here.
To remain on topic, Defkalion's web site has been suspended.
http://defkalion-energy.com
Doesn't make me feel very confident that a LENR device is forthcoming.
- Brad
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jojo Iznart
Who appointed you judge and jury in this forum? I didn't get that memo.
LOL...
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Jojo and Daniel,
Take
*If Rossi had nothing to do with the test, then who is the person executing
the scam, and for what reason? This looks like a battle between the
believers and the non-believers. Do the believers feel strongly enough to
violate their scientific ethos, and compromise their integrity. What
happened
Alain,
It doesn't sound like good news to me. I don't see how they can
disagree much about the experimental results.
I didn't think they were supposed to pontificate about how it (LENR)
worked. If they do, of course there will be disagreement.
The story was they were provided with three
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I was finally able to download a very low quality scan of the paper at:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010305011426/http://www.hydrino.org/Papers/Goedecke.pdf
Unfortunately, it is so low quality that it may not be
Jojo, I hope you are wrong about your conclusion. It does concern me by the
expression of Polarized opinions. Best case is for them to be referring to
how the device operates instead of how well it works.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To:
Jojo, the people on your list are not Christians if I recall correctly. They
were Jewish...right? Not sure that it really makes that much difference about
this particular subject.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l
Rossi should know well whether or not his device works and I suspect that his
continuous pointing out that the results could be positive or negative is based
upon his desire to appear neutral toward the scientific measurements. Of
course there is always the chance that those performing the
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:59 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I was finally able to download a very low quality scan of the paper at:
Uninstall up 2982791 of suffer BSOD on Win7,8 machines. Google that
number for more information. Update dated 8/14 or later.
up = update
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Uninstall up 2982791 of suffer BSOD on Win7,8 machines. Google that
number for more information. Update dated 8/14 or later.
They don't disagree on the experimental result but on the reality.
some think that cold fusion is impossible, so experimental result are bad.
point. this is the Huizenga Doctrine.
the history of cold fusion make it clear that NO EVIDENCE IS ACCEPTABLE!
when you have 153 peer reviewed papers,
Hi all
In Reply to Jojo Iznart:
You just love making stuff up. You would have a great future writing for
the Daily Mail, they write lots of fairy tales too.
This is what it says in the report Jojo Iznart is referring too in full
rather than Jojo Iznart's spin
*Update #17 (August 20, 2014)*
I
http://phys.org/news/2014-08-debating-science-withtrolls.html
*Chances of it being a Scam has increased.*
I have received an education in the tactics many trolls use. These tactics
are common not just to trolls but to bloggers, journalists and politicians
who attack science, from climate to
What is this number 2882791? Where do you find numbers like that?
When I go to my Windows 7 update history all I see are codes that display as
KB915597. All my update numbers start with KB...
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
-Original Message-
I left off the KB. It would show a install date of 8/14 or later.
(the date is all the way to the right, you might have to scroll).
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
What is this number 2882791? Where do you find numbers like
298 . . . my lysdexic friend.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
What is this number 2882791? Where do you find numbers like that?
When I go to my Windows 7 update history all I see are codes that display
as KB915597. All my
Please refer to my answer to this challenge in my reply to Daniel.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: David Roberson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Jojo, the people on your list are not Christians
Dave, you and I picked up on the most important phrase that others seems to
have missed - Polarized Opinions. This by itself has got to refer to
opinions of the testers, not the outside world. For why would the polarized
opinions of the outside world suddenly make a difference in the release
Not just that update:
http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-yanks-botched-black-tuesday-patches-kb-2982791-kb-2970228-kb-2975719-and-kb-2975331-248582
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
298 . . . my lysdexic friend.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014
Yeah, but it's 298 . . . which has the fntcache file. Who would think
there was a font cache in the kernel?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:08 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
Not just that update:
I don't know who you think the troll is but let me tell you one such technique
trolls use.
A Troll will saturate a forum with ridiculous, evidence-free ideas and wear
down legitimate challenges to his ideas. We lost an emminent tried-and-true
LENR researcher to the unrestrained unbriddled
It seems there are polarized opinions on the meaning of 'polarized
opinions'.
From the standpoint of an optimist it could mean the polarized opinions of
the outside world, but from the standpoint of a pessimist it could mean the
polarized opinions of the testers. Someone could ask Frank Acland to
My friend, I quoted the original text. That was the first line in my original
post.
Maybe you should get a better email reader before you start accusing people of
deliberate lies. The full text was there for everyone to see. I offered an
opinion as to what I understand it to mean. Some
Thankx
I fkn hate numbers!
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Microsoft Botched Update
298 . . . my lysdexic friend.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent
Sorry, I just found this thread -- I didn't realize there was such
controversy going on.
The term 'polarized opinions' was in reference to people on the outside --
not among the testers.
Frank
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems there are polarized
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs in their reactor.
Yes, DGT was rumored to have said something along those lines.
If the source of that field is localized to a few nanometers, that means
that by the
Thanks for the clarification Frank. Did the tester indicate to you privately
the reason for the delay, even if it is something they don't want to say in
public?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Frank Acland
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:45 AM
I just discovered that I got a citation in a .MIL Master's Thesis :
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a573499.pdf
(Nothing to see ... just a diagram, plus a link to my Steam quality document.)
*DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs in their reactor.*
This 20CM location must be outside of the reactor. The reaction zone is
located inside a 200 micron nickel foam filled with 5 micron particles. The
magnetic activity is observed in localize magnetic traps (LMT). Because
the 5
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