This is my problem with anonymous Axil. He says things like this with such
certainty and conviction as if it were truly accurate. People reading this
does not realize it is just Axil's theory.
We know high current works, but how does Axil know High Voltage works the same?
Has he tried it?
This is the latest explanation for the surface temperature pause. Why was this
not included in the earlier models? How many more variables remain unknown
which might lead to errors in the future predictions?
This is exactly why so many question the science. A good scientist should
remain
I agree that the fossil fuel crew is going to come at us with loaded guns once
the true potential of LENR is understood. It might not be confined to
companies alone since many countries depend upon selling their resources in
order to keep their standard of living at the current level.
Dave
I consider your point valid Jojo. How many additional effects will be found
and contrived to explain why the current models are in error? Until we have a
handle on all of the components we have essentially nothing of value. Some
organization needs to step up and demand that the models
It is late this evening and I felt like throwing out something cute to the
crowd.
The reason Axil does not come out is that he is an alien from a distant star
system. His task is to help mankind to venture into space and LENR is required
to make this possible. We need to follow his
Come to think about it, you might be right.
Axil proposes concepts like high-temperature BEC solitions with Metaphasic
Shielding capability that protect nanonickel antennas from temps over 1000C.
Only an alien from an advance civilization would know of such things as those
concepts are
It will be able to observe the distance of a star from our Galaxy with a
20% precision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(spacecraft)
That means, they will use triangulation, to directly find the distance. So,
it will disprove theories that says universe is younger than that.
--
Daniel Rocha -
Maybe I'm just too dumb to follow, but does distance have to do with age?
Are you saying that the shortest distance they will measure is 30,000 light
years, hence the age is 30,000 years?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Sunday, August
My present for you on this fine late summer Sunday. My enemies would say it
is as Lady Pandora's box, but fortunately I have only friends here
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/08/short-sunday-lecture.html
It is so pleasant sometime to tell you about things that have nothing to do
with LENR.
In this case, yes. The curvature is negligible and light speed, so you can
take the distance as a measure of time. This is true, such that the method
to measure the distance is parallax.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 3:18 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I agree that the fossil fuel crew is going to come at us with loaded guns
once the true potential of LENR is understood.
These are not stupid people. They already realize the potential. Most,
like Shell's S.T.E.P.
Forget about Axil. I'm a disguised alien from planet Duue! As a young nymph
I was left on Earth at someone's door step. They rang the doorbell and ran
away as fast as their appendages could carry them back to the saucer, and
off they went.
Zanthar! I'm sorry I pushed the wrong button! Gimme a
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree that the fossil fuel crew is going to come at us with loaded guns
once the true potential of LENR is understood.
These are not stupid people. They already realize the potential.
I disagree. I have had some interaction with these people. I
Well said. Big Oil follows the buck, and will get into LENR early but not
prematurely, when capital is most needed but after adequate proof. They will
not likely push the technology forward, however … with one big exception.
Chevron was among the first in renewables, but backtracked when the
I wrote:
[Oil] will synthesized locally, on demand, from garbage and water, or coal
and water, or from air and water.
Oil is already synthesized from garbage using depolymerization. This will
be very attractive with cold fusion for two reasons:
1. The producer is paid on both ends; paid to
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net quoted someone:
“It’s not that oil companies dislike renewables,” says Oppenheimer “It’s
just not their core business, or where they have expertise. They just don’t
know what to do with it.”
… yet
Not yet, not ever. Not their core business hardly begins
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
ground using a LENR source? :-)
Hmmm... That's interesting, Cause I saw Obama's motorcade in Pensylvannia Ave
in Washington DC this morning. They were travelling at 50mph. I'm 300 miles
away right now. So, I guess Bambi must have started his travel 6 hours ago,
since It would take them 6 hours to travel 300 miles at 50
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
ground using a LENR source? :-)
I have, actually. Pumping oil does take a lot of energy, but it is
basically overhead for the oil company. It reduces the total amount of oil
they
Good Morning Vortex,
There are many observations about the phenomena you talk about in regards
to the oil companies. It is often referred to as the S curve theory. The S
curve describe how a product becomes invented and has a very slow market
penetration (even the derivative is small). Than comes
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:15 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
This is exactly why so many question the science. A good scientist should
remain skeptical under these conditions and clearly the science is not
settled as some seem to believe.
One doesn't need a fully worked out
From: Terry Blanton
But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be to pump oil from the
ground using a LENR source? :-)
Actually that is not sarcasm. It is likely that a prime early use of LENR will
to extend the productive life of oilfields by a large factor. The USA has a
It's not obvious, if you were to apply the same method to distant galaxies,
such as those at z~8, you'd find they were receding at ~8 times the speed
of light and their distance would be close to 100 billion light years. But
that would be due divergence of the light rays due dilatation of space
Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR gensets
today, we'll still pump oil for decades.
Hmmm... That's interesting, Cause I saw Obama's motorcade in Pensylvannia Ave
in
Washington DC this morning. They were travelling at 50mph.
I'm 300 miles away right now.
...
300 miles away?
I thought you lived in the Philippians.
You visiting?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR
gensets today, we'll still pump oil for decades.
One or two decades, but at the end of that time the industry will be in
catastrophic decline. To get a sense of how it is likely
I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying to stall other forms of
energy until the inventory of Oil is used up. This is also a race against
mankind's interests in reducing greenhouse gasses. This is a rough
estimate, but there are only about 40 years left of oil. Here are the
Eric, I suppose the difference between your beliefs and mine amounts to my
expectation that the climate change scientists should be held to a high
standard as is required of most other endeavors. You apparently are willing to
give them a free pass since you have a gut feeling that they are
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
It is likely that a prime early use of LENR will to extend the productive
life of oilfields by a large factor. The USA has a sunk-cost infrastructure
of 150,000,000 working vehicles . . .
That does not mean much. The average U.S. automobile lasts 8 to
So, when did the a stop gathering horse biscuits in NYC? :-)
Actually that was a plot in a movie.
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From: CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:global warming?
Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 2:49 PM
I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying to
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Weather forecast is virtually perfect for the next hour at most locations
but hopeless in predicting what will happen in a week. I view the global
warming modeling process in a similar manner.
As I pointed out, and as countless climate experts have
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Eric, I suppose the difference between your beliefs and mine amounts to my
expectation that the climate change scientists should be held to a high
standard as is required of most other endeavors. You apparently are
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 24 Aug 2014 03:48:06 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
It is late this evening and I felt like throwing out something cute to the
crowd.
The reason Axil does not come out is that he is an alien from a distant star
system. His task is to help mankind to
Which just proves that David Roberson and Axil are both aliens promoting
wild goose chase theories because, like Whitehead, they know:
“Operations of thought are like cavalry charges in a battle — they are
strictly limited in number, they require fresh horses, and must only be
made at decisive
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think anyone is arguing for giving climate scientists a free pass
for anything they want to do, anymore than we would argue here for giving
physicists a free pass to endlessly pour money into ITER or the National
Ignition Facility; certainly not
We scare people with 6C temp rise but we ofter neglect to examine what a 6C
rise really means.
I submit that it won't be bad, in fact, I believe it would be beneficial to
mankind. More planting seasons, more planting land reclaimed from ice, and
more steady temps in temperate regions for more
Jed, you missed my point entirely. I was not equating weather measurement and
prediction to climate change prediction. Perhaps I was not clear enough within
my discussion. I merely pointed out that the divergence of accurate results
happens relatively rapidly in both of these different
No, I'm not in the Philippians, I'm in the Philippines, and I did not see
Bambi's motorcade in Pensylvannia Ave either.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:38 AM
High CO2 good for plants and Dinosaurs
http://www.livescience.com/44330-jurassic-dinosaur-carbon-dioxide.html
Bring back T Rex
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
We scare people with 6C temp rise but we ofter neglect to examine what a
6C rise really
Robin is right.
Except that we don't realize that these aliens are not extraterrestrial
BIOLOGICAL beings from another planet. These ALIENS are aliens to our
dimension. They are INTERDIMENSIONAL beings of spirits, fallen angels and
demons, controlling our destiny thru their proxy of wicked
Eric, I realize how complex the problem that these guys are facing must be.
That is the root cause of their problem. You have listed several good points
and I will take them into consideration.
My main issue with the current models is that new processes and interactions
are being uncovered
Oh no! Axil was just the diversion alien while I was hidden under cover.
Unfortunately we have been ousted now. How do we explain this to our
superiors? People of Earth, refrain from the development of LENR. We have
successfully convinced the physics community that LENR is a farce so our
More or less like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8HpGge-jzU
2014-08-24 21:59 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Which just proves that David Roberson and Axil are both aliens promoting
wild goose chase
Jojo, I really think you miss the point. Let assume a moment the global
average temperature was 6C above average. That is 42.8 degrees Fahrenheit!
You and the deniers have got to get an understanding of what that means.
It means extinction of life as we know it. I know you deniers think some
If you get a few of these new your home, with you nearby too, I guess it
would be good for human kind too:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/02/110223-nuclear-war-winter-global-warming-environment-science-climate-change/
:^)
2014-08-24 21:48 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart
What? Extinction of LIfe?
My friend, I am here in the Philippines today, and my roof temperature is 48C.
Last month it was over 50C. The sun is beating down on all our crops and quite
obviously, they are not dead. What are you talking about?
Let me tell you what a 42.8C temp will do. It
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