Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:21 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Li7 + Ni58 = Ni59 + Li6 + 1.75 MeV Li7 + Ni59 = Ni60 + Li6 + 4.14 MeV Li7 + Ni60 = Ni61 + Li6 + 0.57 MeV Li7 + Ni61 = Ni62 + Li6 + 3.34 MeV Li7 + Ni62 = Ni63 + Li6 - 0.41 MeV (Endothermic!) This series stops at Ni62, hence all

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:11 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I also suspect that he originally used D iso Li, but changed to Li when he found that D produces protons that are too energetic and produce too much secondary radiation. Another astute observation. To elaborate on what might have

Re: [Vo]:The obect of the TIP report is to get a patent

2014-10-10 Thread Teslaalset
European Patent Office is more than willing to process. Piantelli got one of his patents on Ni-H granted in January 2013 (EP2368252) On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Would Sweden qualify? The demo plant was originally stated to be in Sweden a couple

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
The isotopic shift observed is only a side effect of the real reaction that are taking place. From others LENR experiments one can suspect that hydrogen is the fuel and that Ni is just modified by whatever is in its vicinity. Do you remember all the internet ink was used to debate the copper ash

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Do you remember all the internet ink was used to debate the copper ash in the nickel powder; now all that is for naught. Yes, and thankfully so. Ni(p,ɣ)Cu can go away and die a peaceful death. (Not to say that it doesn't

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Teslaalset
Sample 2 was the fuel used to charge the E-Cat. It’s in the form of a very fine powder. Besides the analyzed elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash. This indicates that also virgin powder was

Re: [Vo]:motls chimes in

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
the only reasonable question, probably because I'm not expert, is the impact of the alumina transparency. anyway if one forget the absolute temperature and power, just comparing colors at given power says the E-cat works. that is my sanity check. what is funny , or sad, is that when facing

Re: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
this question can change the COP, not the bottom line : at lower input power, the temperature is much higher for the active version. 2014-10-10 7:40 GMT+02:00 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com: On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: This is wonderfully

[Vo]:Mark Gibbs Report

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
[ Post-Forbes, of course ] Could ultra-cheap, clean energy be just around the corner? The return of Rossi and the E-Cat http://www.networkworld.com/article/2824558/infrastructure-management/could-ultra-cheap-clean-energy-be-just-around-the-corner-the-return-of-rossi-and-the-e-cat.html

Re: [Vo]:Mark Gibbs Report

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
I just got in from a night of singing and dancing (literally) and didn't notice this had already been reported. (Answering my emails in sequence) - Original Message - Could ultra-cheap, clean energy be just around the corner? The return of Rossi and the E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread frobertcook
Eric-- It may not be so high in the local mag. field if the Li7 is lined up properly with the Ni nucleus.   The question remains, what is the mechanism that transfers mass energy to thermal energy at Mev levels without gammas? The paper on neutron hopping that Jones identified may help answer

Re: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, What to think of this remark: Moreover, Rossi has also made claims, predictions, and announcements that have had no discernible basis in reality. Thus, every announcement and demonstration by Rossi over the last three years has been surrounded by a whirl of claims, counterclaims, and

Re: [Vo]:Pomp weighs in

2014-10-10 Thread frobertcook
It may be hard to get ro operating temp with only the electric power supply and no LENR. Bob Cook Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneRobert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent point. Would be easy enough to do a second control run even now to add some

[Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Michael Nelson, Alternate Discipline Leader for SLS Propulsion at NASA’s Propulsion Research and Development Laboratory, notes, “I was impressed with the work that was done to insure the measurements claiming a 3.2 to 3.6 COP were accurate. Aside from the fact that this could not have been

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Seriously. See: http://korea-dpr.com/biography.html I have not seen any mention of this in the mass media. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Blaze Spinnaker Michael Nelson, Alternate Discipline Leader for SLS Propulsion at NASA’s Propulsion Research and Development Laboratory, notes, “I was impressed with the work that was done to insure the measurements claiming a 3.2 to 3.6 COP

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Craig Haynie
On 10/10/2014 09:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: There is no joy in Mudville for this fan. This is because it is now apparent that there is no real proof of energy gain in the Levi report. There is slight evidence, but no proof. Most of that evidence comes from transmutation, but as we know,

Re: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: If Gibbs knows it's nonsense, why did he write it? You would have to ask him. I suppose he does not want the skeptics to attack him. - Jed

[Vo]:CNN iReport on Rossi

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1177868

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Craig Haynie
On 10/10/2014 09:46 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Seriously. See: http://korea-dpr.com/biography.html I have not seen any mention of this in the mass media. - Jed He's not there on the wayback machine, either. https://web.archive.org/web/20140208052408/http://korea-dpr.com/biography.html Craig

RE: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Craig Haynie Any type of transmutation is totally astonishing, and will change the world as we know it, if people follow up on it and verify it. Well - you are correct on that, assuming this is verified - but it goes without saying that we were expecting to

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: In short, the IR being picked up by the camera and then being raised to 4th power by the calculations was a bogus reading, which was essentially the glow of the resistance wires. Then why did it agree with the thermocouple, and why did it register

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah. Good point. Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: He's not there on the wayback machine, either. https://web.archive.org/web/20140208052408/http://korea- dpr.com/biography.html

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: . . . why did it register similar high temperatures in places that were not incandescent? I refer to Fig. 7. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed The calibration was done at 486 W and and then the cell was run at 790 W for two days. That seems reasonably close to me. The temperature should have been about the same. I cannot imagine any mechanism that would make it go so much higher, other than anomalous excess heat.

Re: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
He unsubscribed because of Jojo at the time. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Robert Dorr
They haven't removed his visage or news of his existence from the Korea Friendship Sites yet. Robert Dorr On 10/10/2014 7:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah. Good point. Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: He's not there on the wayback machine,

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Geeze you are sounding almost as bad as Levi - in not seeing the obvious ... “about the same” is absurd, given what happens later. The difference between 486 and 790 is enormous when the delta-T is being raised by a formula which includes a fourth power

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Geeze you are sounding almost as bad as Levi - in not seeing the obvious ... “about the same” is absurd, given what happens later. The difference between 486 and 790 is enormous when the delta-T is being raised by a formula which includes a

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Jed was talking in watts, W ~ T^4, T is the fourth root of W so it is logarithmic not exponential in your jargon. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* Jed The calibration was done at 486 W and and then the cell was run at 790 W for two days.

[Vo]:Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/10/tom-darden-of-industrial-heat-comments-on-e-cat-test/ Of all the ones that I wanted to hear, was this. Tom Darden is not speaking based on this report. He's obviously intimately familar with the ecat, the 1mw install, and all the

[Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Original link: http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/techflash/2014/10/raleigh-investor-darden-still-bullish-on.html?page=all Triangle Business Journal is a credible journal. “I’m serious — it’s about air pollution and coal,” Darden says. “Our company is called Industrial Heat. Our job is to

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
The Isotopic shift is interesting, but that's actually what I'm least impressed with from what I've read so far. It certainly hints at a nuclear reaction, but it's a bizarre finding. The excess heat is pretty obvious/irrefutable, but these isotopic measurements are very far from a sure-thing. If

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Transmutation is a huge part of lenr. Spawar has published patents all over it. I'm sure it's why the Nasa scientist is excited about it, because he's seen it before and know it's likely true to a point. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: The Isotopic

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
*Transmutation is a huge part of lenr.* It's a part of lenr for sure. I don't know if I'd say huge because we've never, ever, measured transmutation products that are commensurate with excess heat. This is Widom-Larsen logic based on wishful thinking and very little empirical evidence. *Spawar

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread Craig Haynie
They've either changed the wording on their statement, or Google Translate does not agree with the previous translation. The statement from Elforsk now sounds much more passive; not like they plan to take any action. More knowledge is needed to understand and explain.Let us engage more

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://coldfusionnow.org/transmutation-of-nuclear-waste-lenr-spawar-navy-patent/ On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: *Transmutation is a huge part of lenr.* It's a part of lenr for sure. I don't know if I'd say huge because we've never, ever, measured

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN/8419919 BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION The embodiments of the invention relate generally to the field of electrochemistry. Generated particles may be captured by

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Thanks for the link, but again, I'm not really arguing over the patent, that's beside the point. I'm just saying where their *most extensive* work has focused over the years. The patent doesn't really suggest anything about a possible LENR mechanism, just that it's part of the cold fusion

RE: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Vorts, At least Gibbs gave us honorable mention… “Thus, every announcement and demonstration by Rossi over the last three years has been surrounded by a whirl of claims, counterclaims, and accusations of fraud along with [drum-roll] endless theorizing in the alternative

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I generally agree with your sentiment, and about the obfuscation. Though I'm feeling more optimistic now that Darden has personally put his credibility on the line. Clearly he is excited. And given the 1mw install they've been doing he must have a pretty good idea of what's going on.I

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
* generally agree with your sentiment, and about the obfuscation. Though I'm feeling more optimistic now that Darden has personally put his credibility on the line. Clearly he is excited. And given the 1mw install they've been doing he must have a pretty good idea of what's going on.I

RE: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a reduction ad absurdum example of why this experiment was unbelievably poorly designed. NOTE: The experiment could still be gainful, but the Levi’s results do not prove anything, as presented. The thermocouple does not help – it is admitted by Levi that it was accurate only on the two

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Jones -- I can't say your objections to Rossi being present when it was open are unfounded. I think that was a rather stupid move/agreement between the parties. Creates all kind of innuendo which they could/should have avoided. With that said I'm not so sure it really presented him with much

[Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding transmutation, Even if Ed Storms discounts transmutation as an LENR energy production mechanism, transmutation is the source of energy in LENR that has showed up in experimental data since 2010 involving some generalized isotopic and elemental changes encompassing some 40 or 50

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Lithium 6 might be a fission produce as a heaver Z element like iron breaks up releasing 3 protons and 3 neutrons. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding transmutation, Even if Ed Storms discounts transmutation as an LENR energy production mechanism,

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Axil -- I don't think it's fair to keep pointing at Storms as the only one who discounts transmutation as the mechanism -- he's only the most vocal. There are many non-vocal, well-qualified people in the community who don't believe it either. It's the main reason so many people reject Widom-Larsen

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
What I wanted to see in a TIP Ni/H transmutation experiment is a well calibration real time second by second NMR element assay as the transmutation proceeds. NMR resonance analysis is well-known in chemistry research. This is possible to do when the associated analysis software is written,

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Wasn't DGT going to do something like this before they imploded? On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: What I wanted to see in a TIP Ni/H transmutation experiment is a well calibration real time second by second NMR element assay as the transmutation proceeds.

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: Jones -- I can't say your objections to Rossi being present when it was open are unfounded. I think that was a rather stupid move/agreement between the parties. Creates all kind of innuendo which they could/should have avoided. As far as I know, the

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
*As far as I know, the people doing these tests do not care about innuendos or the opinions of Jones Beene, or anyone else. I believe they have good reasons for imposing restrictions (as Lewan put it). These reasons override any concerns about public relations or public opinion.* *I am glad they

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
DGT either has no more money or loads of money. I believe DGT is now well funded. Yes as exceptional scientists and system engineers they have developed a tool for transmutation analysis. And when DGT soon emerges from the dark, they will take away Rossi's candy both theoretically and

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
While I'm not nearly as optimistic as you are, I hope you're correct. The mass-spec they promised in their past ICCF paper had me excited. I won't hold my breath though. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: DGT either has no more money or loads of money. I

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Brad Lowe
Does anyone know if there will be a press release or QA where the experimenters can answer questions? It would be extreme negligence to allow Levi or Rossi to open the reactor or handle the ash. Two things that lends credence to Jones' fear-- Rossi's constant may be positive or may be negative

[Vo]:burnt out particles

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
The microscopic photos of Rossi’s nickel particles were very revealing. These pictures show a mix of burnt-out particles and still functional particles. IMHO, because Rossi is running his reactor at a very high temperature, his particles have a definite half-life based on the operational

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
I think you exagerrate to the point of non sense. even if goatguy make a real point it is just changing the values of the temperature and the power. not the fact that COP1, and even 1 one reactor with less energy in, get more bright than one with more power getting in. maybe COP is not 3.2 but

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Brad, I think part of the problem was control. When you use the hot cat to actually heat something I suspect it messes with the ability to control the reaction. The best they can do is let it radiate, which is why the thermal cameras. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Brad Lowe

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
The continued use of these two remote IR temperature sensors leads me to suspect a large output of IR radiation witch would have interfered with directly wired instrumentation On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if there will be a press

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Very perceptive and a great insight into why the test was setup the way that it was. Rossi has not solved his control issues yet. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Brad, I think part of the problem was control. When you use the hot cat to

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if there will be a press release or QA where the experimenters can answer questions? It would be extreme negligence to allow Levi or Rossi to open the reactor or handle the ash. Extreme negligence toward who, under what law or what set

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
If there is a real transparancy issue as GoatGuy suggest then the inner must be of much higher temperature then the surface. To get a feeling of this issue I tried to look at the published picture of the cat and see if there was a region of lower temperature at the upper part of the ecat in the

[Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Those good fellows over at E-Cat world stated that Rossi uses a magnetic pulse to startup his reactor. I did not know this. Many of the E-Cat World readers memorize Rossi’s every word. This is a great thing but I confess that I cannot do it myself. Such an important revelation about Rossi theory

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
As far as I know the biggest source of coal pollution comes from coal fired electricity plants. However, Tom Darden seems to be talking about coal burning just for heat. I suppose this is still a major problem in China. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad they published this report. They were under no obligation to do so. We are beggars and beggars cannot be choosers. ​This is another reason why most scientists will ignore this report because they see

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad they published this report. They were under no obligation to do so. We are beggars and beggars cannot be choosers. ​This is another

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: ​This is another reason why most scientists will ignore this report because they see themselves as a community of equals. The community that ignores experimental falsification of their theories is, indeed, a community of equals. Yes! And a

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
I Agee. It was mentioned he uses the coil to heat as well as feed it a pulse train, probably a square wave pattern, which is a good way to induce EMF into the mix On Friday, October 10, 2014, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Those good fellows over at E-Cat world stated that Rossi uses a

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
what impact does it have about the question whether the blank when powered with more energy, is brighting much less than the one with one gram more of magic powder ? to the point that the things inside the reactor bright more than the resistors ... if the skeptics are really skeptic, they have

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
From the TIP report on page 1 The heat generating process is initiated by heat from resistor coils around the reactor tube. In addition, the resistor coils are fed with some fed with some specific electromagnetic pulses On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
It is worth noting that some FP cells got hot enough to boil off the electrolytic solution and then remained hot for a while. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Very perceptive and a great insight into why the test was setup the way that it was. Rossi

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good way to induce electrical currents in nano antennas and arcing across gaps in powder depending on pulse frequency and carrier frequency matched to size of particles/receivers On Friday, October 10, 2014, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: From the TIP report on page 1 The heat generating

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Yes, this mechanism is central to the way I believe that the E-Cat works. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Good way to induce electrical currents in nano antennas and arcing across gaps in powder depending on pulse frequency and carrier frequency matched

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
I have been studying this trying to figure if some of the 30,000,000 watts of 200-800 Hz pulsed EMF @ 3GHz carrier wave from a radar station might be collected by 1-4 wave height in ocean and dissolve a shallow coral reef skeleton made of CaCO3 just like this unit that gets 4 stars on amazon

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: $64 question: Was Rossi present at the time the reactor was opened? Yes, the reports says he was. If so, and this has been reported on E-Cat World, then that means the sample which Bianchini tested was not independently obtained – and could have

Re: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Gibbs also said in the above referenced message: If something hot in LENR comes up and anyone cares to nudge me, I’d be grateful but until then I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed for a breakthrough ... I'm sure he was nudged. ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know the biggest source of coal pollution comes from coal fired electricity plants. However, Tom Darden seems to be talking about coal burning just for heat. I believe he means burning coal and other fossil fuel for all purposes, including

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 22:56:00 -0400: Hi Harry, [snip] Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... ...Lithino harry Yes, that thought had also occurred to me, however it doesn't explain the need for Hydrogen. But there is another possibility...if a shrunken

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: *Our* company. Exciting times! He's not relying on some report by a bunch of scientists. Tom Darden is no fool, He's yale graduate / head of a billion dollar hedge fund. I am curious Mr. Spinnaker. Why are you so impressed by the

[Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
Hi, among the skeptic argument one of the only that is not laughable is the one of goatguy... maybe is it because I don't understand it well... He seems to say - that alumina is not a grey body, but transparent, and that emissivity must be mixed with translucidity when considering the radiation

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the best-read skeptics out there and get's so much play, but in my view he deserves it because he's pretty good and the skeptical community generally sucks. Still don't think his objections discredit the report, but I wouldn't mind seeing

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The 7 professors who wrote the TIP report are supposed to be answering such criticisms. They should have set up a website for just that purpose. Rossi did. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 02:22 PM 10/10/2014, Alain Sepeda wrote: Hi, among the skeptic argument one of the only that is not laughable is the one of goatguy... maybe is it because I don't understand it well... He seems to say - that alumina is not a grey body, but transparent, and that emissivity must be mixed with

[Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
I hate to say it, but I'm leaning to inconclusive for the report as a whole. Controls: I don't have any problems with the experimental controls as a whole, and in particular Rossi's involvement, which was supervised at all times. There is no chance that secret power was fed to the system.

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread David Roberson
Jones, you are discussing one of the main concerns about the accuracy of the test as far as I can ascertain. Someone needs to review the behavior of the alumina when illuminated from within to prove that we are not being confused. This should not be too difficult since any light source that

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread a.ashfield
Alain, There are several answers to your question. 1. Alumina is not completely transparent and so heats to equilibrium. 2. The run with the dummy unfueled E-Cat takes care of any IR measurement error. 3. I believe they did use calibrated dots at some point. Adrian Ashfield

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Again how serious this is depends on the temperature difference between the inner and outer shell no. If that was serious you would expect the top edge of a picture of the hot cat to have unsharp color shade because the top edge should represent the heat of the outer shell. I have not find such an

RE: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-cat test

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Foks0904 I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the best-read skeptics out there and get's so much play, but in my view he deserves it because he's pretty good and the skeptical community generally sucks. Still don't think his objections discredit the report, but

Re: [Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
Alan, I am unclear of if you think there is incompetence or fraud, which can be suspected? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:04:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] don't you remember when Rossi said... He said that he tested a number of secret sauce element which all basically worked. Lithium is just one of a number of elements that do basically the same thing. Lithium is not

Re: [Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 03:06 PM 10/10/2014, Lennart Thornros wrote: I am unclear of if you think there is incompetence or fraud, which can be suspected? Incompetence. (I only mentioned fraud to show I thought it unlikely).

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22:20 -0700: Hi, [snip] When I run the numbers, I'm seeing that out of 3184 isotopes in Mathematica, 2965 are exothermic under neutron capture versus 95 that are endothermic. ...but note that energy is required to remove the neutron from

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
Not scientific -- but a search of google images for alumina transmission indicates that you can get pretty much any profile you want (Include transparent sapphires, of course), and that the actual profiles vary wildly. One would thus have to characterize the ceramic actually used, and then

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Yes and the thickness of the alumina and the time constants of heat transfer dTouter/dt = K(Tinner - Touter) or similare suitable equation. On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Not scientific -- but a search of google images for alumina transmission indicates

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Looks like his sister tried a coup d'etat: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/north-korean-leader-kim-jongun-flees-after-attempted-coup-by-sister-30652068.html

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 03:48 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote: Yes and the thickness of the alumina and the time constants of heat transfer dTouter/dt = K(Tinner - Touter) or similare suitable equation. Fundamentals of Ceramics Michael Barsoom About 600 pages. I found a probably bootleg copy on the web, but you'll have

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:14:28 +1100: Hi, [snip] C13 might make an interesting replacement for the Lithium, as might Si29, if it works at all. If so, then it is far more abundant than any of the others[1], and like Li should allow clean reactions:-

[Vo]:Halo lithium was:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to H Veeder's message * Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... Lithino ... or maybe the apparent Rossi reaction of Ni58 - Ni 62 can be accomplished with a known particle, which is halo-lithium or Li-11. This

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Jones is right... If the reactor material is transparent to infrared to any degree, the remote temperature sensor would be looking at the temperature somewhere inside the ceramic tube. Since the amount of radiate heat is proportional to the surface area of the radiating body at the air boundary,

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/83021/1/Sintering%20to%20transparency.pdf See page 528 Al2O3 is transparent to mid range infrared between the 2 and 5 micron wavelengths. That is the operating temperature of the E-Cat. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: ...but note that energy is required to remove the neutron from the source isotope, so a lot of those 2965 isotopes will be useless, depending on which isotope supplies the neutrons. Yes, this is true. I forgot to mention that the

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