RE: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-06-03 Thread Mark Iverson
research Are you refering to Virginia Steen-McIntyre ? Chuck Kinney - Original Message - From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research There was also a woman archaeologist who

RE: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for some balance?

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Iverson
? the albedo of the earth is indeed changing. 2009/6/3 Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net: Or has the balance always been there? Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi has quite a distinguished scientific career, including a number of years at NASA Langley. It's a long read, but well worth it... http

RE: [Vo]:110 MPG automobile engine

2009-06-07 Thread Mark Iverson
And one would think that this motor is a gutless wonder. Not so fast, but the motor is. Here are basic specs: HP2g Specs: - V8 Engine - 400 HP (horsepower) - 500 Ft. Lbs. Tq. (foot pounds of torque) - 110 MPGe (miles per gallon energy equivalent) - E-85 (ethanol fuel) - Made in the USA

RE: [Vo]:110 MPG automobile engine

2009-06-07 Thread Mark Iverson
. Competitive forces trying to delay that effort??? Fortunately, in this evil, obsolete capitalistic society, Doug has plenty of interested investors to move this technology to market. -Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:09 AM

RE: [Vo]:grok is removed temporarily

2009-06-08 Thread Mark Iverson
Grok is a coward. If he really believed what he was preaching, then he wouldn't be afraid to use his real name. I think most everyone I'm aware of on this list has apologized at one time or another... It's what a person with integrity does when they realize their mistake or transgression. The

RE: [Vo]:grok is removed temporarily

2009-06-08 Thread Mark Iverson
2009, Mark Iverson wrote: I think most everyone I'm aware of on this list has apologized at one time or another... It's what a person with integrity does when they realize their mistake or transgression. Trademarks of the troll/flamer/fsckhead are, refusal to apologize, plus use of anonymous

[Vo]:Possible book of interest to Vorts...

2009-06-09 Thread Mark Iverson
FYI, The Crime of Reason and the Closing of the Scientific Mind Robert D. Laughlin, Reviewed by Edward Gerjuoy Basic Books, New York, 2008. $25.95 (186 pp.). ISBN 978-0-465-00507-9 -Mark

[Vo]:Question for the Vort collective...

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Iverson
Has anyone heard of a 'photonic battery'... i.e., a way to store and controllably release photons? -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Question for the Vort collective...

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Iverson
be interested in this as well. My thought concept was a sphere, as perfectly mirrored as possible inside, but of a material similar to two way glass, so that a matching but opposite piece in physical contact allows passage of light. vacuum seam it. 2009/6/10 Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net

RE: Super colliders

2006-05-08 Thread Mark Iverson
Steve: RE: any benefits to society from collider research... Perhaps the fact that there were NO serious answers to your question, is the answer! :-) And taking the implication a little further, perhaps it's a good source of amusement! :-):-) Mark N. Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

[Vo]:Jed's temporary ban...

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Hey Jed, time to go take a vacation and get some RR... Go climb a mountain with your kids. By the time you get back, Bill will have ended the ban...you won't even know it was in effect! Come to think of it, I could really use a vacation too. Now, should I use the 'p' word, or the 'r' word???

RE: [Vo]:Question for the Vort collective...

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Thanks for the info Robin... I forgot about slow light; and I think there was an article in the last 6 months about a group of researchers actually stopping light. That's a little too beam me up for my taste. But my original posting was this: Has anyone heard of a 'photonic battery'...

RE: [Vo]:Smoke Ring?

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Iverson
Steven wrote: The point behind this meandering follow-up post is the fact that the bubble rings these dolphins were manufacturing, once formed, were exceedingly stable as they traveled through the much more dense medium of water. They were quite circular as well. Now, consider the fact that

RE: [Vo]:Smoke Ring?

2009-06-20 Thread Mark Iverson
! ;-) -Mark -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:20 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Smoke Ring? From: Mark Iverson Steven: I did watch the video clip and would disagree with your above statement

RE: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Iverson
Bill wrote: I suggest that it's a VERY bad idea to try distorting results by concealing any parts of it. Concealment is an element of deception, that's why the legal phrase says the WHOLE truth. Such concealment is what manipulative people do. You'd best avoid it. Bill, you're much to

RE: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Iverson
is both confusing to me (I held back evidence that supports my case) and to me somewhat hostile. Hopefully this is simply misunderstanding on both sides. 2009/6/24 Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net Bill wrote: I suggest that it's a VERY bad idea to try distorting results by concealing any parts

Re: [Vo]:Marinov's ball-bearing motor

2009-06-27 Thread Mark Iverson
When I replicated the ball-bearing (marinov) motor about 12 years ago, I thought it might have something to do with longitudinal forces ala the Graneaus (Ampere-Neumann electrodynamics), since it only seemed to manifest with large currents. I didn't have an amp meter back then, but what kind

[Vo]:Cold Fusion article on EDN's site...

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Iverson
FYI: Favorable CF article in EDN (Electronic Design News)... http://www.edn.com/blog/40040/post/1750043575.html?nid=2431rid=4465865 Comment section overall pretty reasonable, but with a few of the usual ignorant armchair scientists that are still parroting 20 year-old info. They obviously

RE: [Vo]:More From the Steorn Jury

2009-07-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Ed: Although a significant proportion of the wealthy and powerful are jewish (and they probably worked hard and smart to get there), I think you could have left the religious background out of your statement and it still would have been accurate... -Mark -Original Message- From:

RE: [Vo]:More From the Steorn Jury

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Iverson
, for example, are a fact. I see nothing wrong with identifying such groups when they are likely to act in a particular way as a group. Ed On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:33 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Ed: Although a significant proportion of the wealthy and powerful are jewish (and they probably worked

RE: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Iverson
Stephen wrote: Let's stop right there. The 'present', for any observer, has zero thickness along that observer's time axis. What is zero thickness for a human could be a lifetime at the subatomic level... It all depends on what scale you're talking about... And don't mix scales! -Mark

RE: [Vo]:How to Build a UFO

2009-07-27 Thread Mark Iverson
LOL!!! That was hilarious! Thx Stephen... -Mark -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:05 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:How to Build a UFO Terry Blanton wrote: Speaking of UFOs on a slow Sunday, this guy

[Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

2009-08-03 Thread Mark Iverson
In this article: Breaking the Planck's law, at the nanoscale http://www.physorg.com/news168101848.html http://www.physorg.com/news168101848.html One of the authors states: Current theory will not be valid once we push down to 1 nanometer spacing. Which is something that I've been

RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Iverson
I see more and more instances of when some research is finding things that don't quite agree with 'theory' or 'whats expected', and it always involves some kind of experiment where a physical parameter is way beyond what science has explored. I distinctly remember a quote from one scientist

RE: [Vo]:Why No Repulsion?

2009-09-26 Thread Mark Iverson
There is, it's just overcome by the forces causing the separation of charge... Understand that just as in a chemical battery, there is an active process keeping the charges separated, and it has to do with the turbulent columns of air moving vertically inside the cloud. It's been about

RE: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-09-30 Thread Mark Iverson
Dr. Swartz: You should read carefully Stephen Lawrence's post today, 9/30/2009, at 6:16PM. You might want to recind your comment since Stephen included quotes from as far back as 5 Dec 2004 which CLEARLY show that Jed has ALWAYS admitted that he got the CD from you, but that he couldn't read

RE: [Vo]:Rothwell and Bad Science

2009-10-05 Thread Mark Iverson
If I understand Jed's requirements, he is asking for image-over-text, which means the image file is what one sees, but that there is text associated with each image that allows one to do full text searches. Thus, there is NO reason for Dr. Schwartz's concern about 'editing', since the original

RE: [Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Jed wrote: Fleischmann told me he has had the problem for a long time. I'm outraged, how could you be so insensitive to reveal in a public forum personal health details that someone told you!!! Me thinks this touches an emotional 'button' for both Jed and ABD... And that comment Jed made

[Vo]: including ALL the physics...

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson
This sort of thing makes me wonder about scientists, or the scientific 'process'... For those of you more familiar with the details of atomic/molecular physics, can you please explain why you would even think that the magnetic orientation/properties of copper atoms in covalent bonds would be

RE: [Vo]:Magnetricity

2009-10-16 Thread Mark Iverson
Yet another example of how the ego totally screws up the (scientific) process... Imagine where civilization could be now if ego's weren't involved... -Mark _ From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

[Vo]: RF improves molecular interactions...

2009-10-20 Thread Mark Iverson
Who was it that was using RF to enhance the CF/LENR reaction??? This from PhysOrg.com... http://www.physorg.com/news175281818.html As the authors report in an upcoming issue of Physical Review A, the radio-frequency (RF) radiation could serve as a second knob, in addition to the more

RE: [Vo]:GR now in serious question

2009-10-29 Thread Mark Iverson
For those who want to explore the criticisms of Relativity theory, there is a journal that focuses on that. From their Editorial Policy: Galilean Electrodynamics aims to publish high-quality scientific papers that discuss challenges to accepted orthodoxy in physics, especially in the realm of

RE: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-16 Thread Mark Iverson
I think this is an important statement... However, if by experts they mean Mosier-Boss, McKubre, etc., then less so since these people, altho certainly experts, are also insiders. I would hope that at least some of the experts were people who have never done any LENR research... -Mark

RE: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-16 Thread Mark Iverson
Times News Flash: DoD Report Released Mark Iverson wrote: However, if by experts they mean Mosier-Boss, McKubre, etc., then less so since these people, altho certainly experts, are also insiders. I would hope that at least some of the experts were people who have never done any LENR

RE: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-16 Thread Mark Iverson
So the Intelligence community of the DoD looked into LENR, decided that there's enough sound scientific evidence to suggest that LENR just might be real, and because of the most extraordinary ramifications if it is real, is, with this report, warning government agencies and the scientific

RE: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Iverson
Mark Iverson wrote: Jed, then you've got some extremely liberal definition of 'insider'! I was using the skeptics' definition. As I said, one of them called Duncan a charlatan because he concluded that Energetics Technology is correctly measuring 0.8 W in, ~20 W out. Any sane expert

RE: [Vo]:Re: New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Iverson
Mark Iverson wrote: Duncan has now become an insider, by that definition. No, I disagree. Has he set up a lab and done some experiments? No. Yes, he has now. That's my point. I am pleased he has! My point was that at the time of the 60-Minutes piece, he most certainly

RE: [Vo]:Cold fusion bombs

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Iverson
RE: the discussion about chain reactions in LENR-type experiments... Not sure if I got the below reference from vortex-l or not, but, in a general sense, it seems that it is saying that under certain conditions, normally incoherent behavior can suddenly become coherent... i.e., the behavior of

[Vo]: Proton's internal structure...

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
This just out at PhysOrg... (see at bottom of msg) What I find funny, in a sad kind of way, is the following statement: So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence picture doesn't work and another that tells you the density-dependence picture doesn't work, Arrington

RE: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times Break Story

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
Steve: I really don't think it was a good idea to post her phone msg transcript! She must be itchin' to get fired... this will make it back to her superiors. -Mark _ From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM To:

Recall: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times Break Story

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
Mark Iverson would like to recall the message, [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times Break Story. attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times Break Story

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
She must be one gutsy lady! And a good moral compass and high degree of integrity... -Mark -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times

RE: [Vo]:ONR Inspector General Helps New Energy Times Break Story

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
Steve wrote: ...but it has been re-assigned. As has she... Boy, they sure didn't waste any time did they! ;-) That's whatcha get for tryin to do the right thing nowadays... How did it get so bad? -Mark -Original Message- From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com] Sent:

RE: [Vo]: Proton's internal structure...

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Iverson
, November 20, 2009 5:09 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton's internal structure... On Nov 19, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: This just out at PhysOrg... (see at bottom of msg) What I find funny, in a sad kind of way, is the following statement: So you have one set

RE: [Vo]:Please stop using .dat attachments

2009-11-21 Thread Mark Iverson
Thanks for the reminder... That was actually the result of hitting Send before thinking about it! It was late and I was dozing off! :-) -Mark _ From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:49 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Please

[Vo]:RE: NET Bubble Fusion Story

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Iverson
Errors found in final version, so far: Some of the affidavits suggest that Butt have [had] been subjected to coercion by the senior professors who were conducting the fact-finding. ...has been demonstrated to be out [missing] of it's jurisdiction. -Mark _ From: Steven Krivit

RE: [Vo]:RE: NET Bubble Fusion Story

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Iverson
I must be brain-dead... sorry 'bout that post. I obviously meant it to go to Steve... :-/ -Mark _ From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:15 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:RE: NET Bubble Fusion Story Errors found in final

RE: [Vo]:RE: NET Bubble Fusion Story

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Iverson
yeah, I deserved that! :-) I was really trying to show all those OCD Vorts how few grammatical errors there are in your very lengthy, detailed, and fact-filled investigative articles! :-) -Mark _ From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com] Sent: Monday, November 23,

RE: [Vo]:Global Warming

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Iverson
Here is an analysis of CRU source code used in some of the models: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/crus_source_code_climategate_r.html But here's what's undeniable: If a divergence exists between measured temperatures and those derived from dendrochronological data after (circa) 1960,

RE: [Vo]:terrifying online videos

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Iverson
This is pretty cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi7Srd-LSeE -Mark -Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:14 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:terrifying online videos Danyk666 and his microwave oven (Czech

[Vo]: neutron emission vs fission vs fusion

2009-12-05 Thread Mark Iverson
Today's 'serendipitous surfing' led me to this... Anyone familiar with Prof. Oliver K. Manuel's work/ideas on neutron emission? Identify ways to utilize the energy released in neutron emission - the largest known energy source. For example, the rest mass converted to useful energy is ~0.1% in

RE: [Vo]:Falsifiability of cold neutrons in LENR

2009-12-10 Thread Mark Iverson
Horace wrote: I don't know why a neutron would not act like a neutron. Let me take a stab at that one... Perhaps because it's in a fully D-loaded palladium lattice, where other things aren't acting like they 'should'? ;-) Yeah, I know, that wasn't much help... -Mark -Original

RE: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-15 Thread Mark Iverson
Its explained in the YouTube video, Steorn Orbo Technology Launch 2009 The lower two rotors are a motor with PMs on the rotors and small coils (electromagnets?) on the stator. The EMs obviously require some DC electricity. The topmost rotor is a small generator which produces AC. To charge

RE: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread Mark Iverson
Hoyt (the Insider) Stearns wrote, :-) The energy in the battery does not go to the kinetic energy of the rotor, it is used as an easy way to modify some parameters of the device. In watching the Launch 2009 video where some closeups and animations are shown, they show what looks like a small

RE: [Vo]:New hypothesis about what Steorn is up to

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Iverson
Mauro wrote: maybe they are trying to make alternative energy INVESTORS to look like fools, and make them spend their money in a bogus project, so they don't invest it in a real one, and are afraid to invest in another in the future. Which would give them more time to perfect the technology

RE: [Vo]:Krivit Elsevier Encyclopedia Articles Publish

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Iverson
What an excellent Christmas present for the field of LENR research... Merry Christmas all! -Mark _ From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com] Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit Elsevier Encyclopedia Articles

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF vs Inductor Energy Storage

2009-12-30 Thread Mark Iverson
The energy is stored in the mag fld, not the inductor. Also, I've seen orbos that seemed to have a core with the toroid, and some that didn't, or at least it certainly didn't look like there was a core. I also was under the impression that the stator cores were NOT PMs, but simply iron cores.

[Vo]: Yet another Wikipedia use of CF in a bad light...

2010-01-05 Thread Mark Iverson
Wikipedia's use of CF as an example for 'science by concensus' and 'burden of proof'... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof About 4/5s the way down the page. Examples in science As a general rule, the less coherent and less embedded within conventional knowledge a claim appears, the

RE: [Vo]: Yet another Wikipedia use of CF in a bad light...

2010-01-05 Thread Mark Iverson
Yes, it does... I can remember a college lecture in some science-related class (think it might have been ethology), where the point of one of the prof's lectures what to avoid using 'cute' or 'descriptive' labels for things in your research papers... I guess I just find it very sad that

[Vo]: Alternative sensors to CR39...

2010-01-05 Thread Mark Iverson
Could these be used instead of CR39 for LENR research... http://www.adsem.com/gpage4.html -Mark

[Vo]:Of Superconduction and Academic Stupidity

2010-01-11 Thread Mark Iverson
Very interesting comment section here... http://www.physorg.com/news182184493.html Quantum fluctuations are key in superconductors A guy with a login of Johanfprins makes several statements claiming to have a good model for superconduction and can make them to operate at room temp, or even

RE: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-14 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd wrote: And the answer was essentially to first give a bullshit answer, that a capacitor couldn't supply the instantaneous current needed. Put enough capacitance in there and you could vaporize the conductors if you shorted it. According to Sean, its not a matter of having enough

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Iverson
I sent one post which hasn't shown up yet... Perhaps its awaiting Bills scrutiny before allowing it thru. It had a JPEG attachment of how the inductance of the toroidal coil changes by a factor of 5 as the rotor magnets approach and move past the coil... More quotes from the Steorn Forum to

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
Thanks Michel! I'll repost with a link or smaller pic... -Mark -Original Message- From: Michel Jullian [mailto:michelj...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right 2010/1/16, Mark Iverson zeropo

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or Overunity.com, as guessing and speculating and accusing here, you just might have a different opinion. Sean is responding to questions on the Steorn Forum, and many guys on the Steorn thread on Overunity.com are making

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
Attached is a graph that JLNaudin has done... Forgot to edit that out... The graph is on JLN's webpage. http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm -Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:18 AM To: vortex-l

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
, January 16, 2010 10:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or Overunity.com, I read and post on both plus the VofB

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
; however, I am registered under another alias and have learned a different approach to getting my messages through. ;-) Warmest regards, Terry On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Yes, Terry, there has been a little discussion on inductance... BillB back on 12

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I see on another list, Rick Friedrich is already digging into Steorn being a total Bedini rip-off, you can see such conversations between Friedrich and McCarthy at: http

RE: [Vo]:More from Inductance thread in Steorn forum

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
You forgot to include mechanical E... In Harry Veeder's recent post, Sean (Steorn) is quoted as saying, ...to be clear, as the rotor speeds up the mechanical power increases, the electrical power remains the same and the power to heat remains the same. So, does that mean that below some RPM

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Iverson
-Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: I don't believe any one here criticising Steorn and calling them

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-17 Thread Mark Iverson
Thx Jed for expressing it a bit more eloquently than I. In these situations I try to reverse the roles and ask myself, How would I want to be treated. All I would want is the time to do what I said I would do before you make any (public) judgements... Sincerely, The Endearing Mr. Iverson

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-17 Thread Mark Iverson
And you KNOW that Sean doesn't know NOW? How? Did he confess this to you over a beer at the local pub? Perhaps in a vision or dream? Do you realize how ridiculous, and wrong, those explicit statements are unless you provide evidence? Claiming to 'know' what someone else knows when they are

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-17 Thread Mark Iverson
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: So Sean saying that they've already done the calorimetry and determined it empirically would not help you one bit --- you would still call them liars and scammers

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Iverson
to meet in person, I'll buy the first round! Fair enough? -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:15 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Mark Iverson

RE: [Vo]:group seeks to discredit Rossi

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd: You stated: Right now, the Rossi device is a Black Box, with two apparent inputs: electrical power, as a supposedly measured level, and water, Did you forget the hydrogen? At least I would consider it an input since it is not entirely contained within the reactor. I.e., there is an

RE: [Vo]:A few comments by Celani about the demonstration

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd... I think you haven't been following this as closely as the active contributors... Perhaps your time is limited and you have not been able to read all the postings... What did Rossi hope to accomplish by the demonstration? My suspicion is, he got exactly what he wanted. Lots of publicity,

RE: [Vo]:A few comments by Celani about the demonstration

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd: You really need to be more careful with your choice of words... There is a staged demonstration, under the control of Rossi, with experimental details concealed... No, there were at least two tests done with the same seasoned university scientists present. No, it was not a 'staged'

RE: [Vo]:Robert E. Godes claims theory and device for .1 MHz AC to drive H2O electrolysis next to Ni or Pd [ wires?], so protons become 4 neutron particles and then He with heat, no local lattice da

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Jones: I just read the following from the linked pdf, and I think it ties in nicely with your comments about using a beta emitter... When working with protium, an explicit source of electrons must be supplied as the reaction starts with four protons and no neutron but ends with two of each

RE: [Vo]:Robert E. Godes claims theory and device for .1 MHz AC to drive H2O electrolysis next to Ni or Pd [ wires?], so protons become 4 neutron particles and then He with heat, no local lattice dama

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Iverson
for .1 MHz AC to drive H2O electrolysis next to Ni or Pd [ wires?], so protons become 4 neutron particles and then He with heat, no local lattice damage, no radiation, no radioactives, 200 C, 129 atm On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Or, the Rossi demo has

RE: [Vo]:Levi's interpretation of the two Rossi demos does not hold water

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Iverson
Been following this discussion carefuly, since I can understand the point being made... Stephen asked, And if the reactor is putting out an extra 500 watts over and above the amount to exactly vaporize the water, exactly *where* do you think that extra 500 watts is going? The answer, which

RE: [Vo]:Levi's interpretation of the two Rossi demos does not hold water

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Iverson
This whole thread started by the critique by Joshua Cude posted by Rich Murray... It would appear that Joshua (and Rich) have not read all of the comments and reports on Rossi's website, so they were UNinformed as to the purpose of the 'control box'. Rich, would you please correct Joshua on

RE: [Vo]:Imagine a teakettle

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Iverson
Although this discussion thread is really a moot point after it was pointed out that there are 5 PLCs which are controlling the power to the resistive heaters, there's one thing I'd like to point out... Stephen said: Jed, it's a container, with all the walls at several hundred degrees C or

[Vo]: flies in Ockham's face... was, Krivit praises Miles while dismissing his results

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Iverson
Is it flies in Ockie's face, or just one big-ass, never-before-seen, new-species type of fly! :-) see below... Jones wrote: He finds numerous channels for fusion, and by implication, there are numerous possible nuclear reactions other than fusion, all at the same time. All in the same

RE: [Vo]:flies in Ockham's face

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Iverson
Horace: Yes, I've noticed the postings out of order... For now we just deal with it. Thanks for the analysis, and I'll have to read it fully later, but I'd like to say two things at this time: 1) If what you mean by resonant tunneling is, Resonant tunneling refers to tunneling in which the

RE: [Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Iverson
Joshua: A few clarifications from you would be helpful... Jed wrote: You do have to trust Levi, Celani and Dufour and some other people. To which Joshua stated: Why? They were hand-picked by Rossi. Where is your evidence that the scientists that were there to instrument the demo were

RE: [Vo]:Abd being censured?

2011-02-22 Thread Mark Iverson
I think I've been rcving all the postings... I've got duplicates of the last two of Horaces' where he reposted because he didn't see the original... -Mark -Original Message- From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:58 AM To: Vortex-L Subject:

RE: [Vo]:OT: Collective bargaining

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Iverson
In Nevada, collective bargaining and behind doors negotiating has resulted in Fire Marshalls making a quarter of a million dollars a year in total compensation! That is absolutely ridiculous... I would only be in favor of it if its done in the open.. These are public employees, and the

RE: [Vo]:OT: Collective bargaining

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Iverson
: Collective bargaining On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Mark Iverson wrote: In Nevada, collective bargaining and behind doors negotiating has resulted in Fire Marshalls making a quarter of a million dollars a year in total compensation! That is absolutely ridiculous... Who is to blame

RE: [Vo]:Is there a SONO connection to the Rossi Demo?

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Iverson
Jones: I remember someone here saying that someone at the Jan 14 demo said they could hear the sound of rushing air inside the hose, and that it was routed thru the door and into the sink in another room nearby... that narrows it down, since only a few people on vortex are in contact with

RE: [Vo]:What will convince Joshua Cude?

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Iverson
Abd: You've been most patient, and Jed too, in trying to bring JC up to speed on the facts, don't waste your time... Of course, one could predict how he was going to respond, with the following statement: You know, if you spent less time trying to analyze my motives, and describe my style, and

RE: [Vo]:Is there a SONO connection to the Rossi Demo?

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Iverson
the reports and with Giuseppe Levi. If something interesting happens, i can ask them, but only answerable questions. By the way the great problem now is to understand how 0.4 grams of hydrogen can n generate 270 KWh energy. Amazing. Peter On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo

RE: [Vo]:What will convince Joshua Cude?

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Iverson
Charles wrote: Isn't it more likely that the skeptics simply think the field is a joke, rather than that they're intimidated by the weight of the positive evidence? Yes, given the ridicule that CF has received over the years, that is certainly a good possibility... We're very complex beings and

RE: [Vo]:Non-Standard Reactions

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Iverson
Because of the multiple uses of words like nuclear and fission and fusion, the message was FWDed to the Department of Homeland Security... Jones, warm up the tea and crumpets... you'll be having some expected, but uninvited, visitors soon... :-) -Mark _ From: Horace Heffner

RE: [Vo]:friendly exchange of ideas

2011-02-26 Thread Mark Iverson
Not interesting yet... I'll bet he's watching it very closely, though, and will likely mention something when he's had more time to ask the same questions as we have here of course, even though he might ask himself the same questions, doesn't mean his rational mind will overcome his

[Vo]:Interesting article: exchange of single quanum between two ions... its all about resonance.

2011-02-26 Thread Mark Iverson
Very interesting article (some specific text below). It seems to be indicating: 1) atoms as a whole vibrate, but that is only because they are out of balance internally 2) whatever an 'atom' is, INTERNALLY it has very regular/periodic oscillations going on 3) when a quantum or quanta of heat

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Mark Iverson
But hasn't Rossi said repeatedly that his reactor only uses about a gram of Ni??? Although, I don't remember a timeframe for that figure.. Was it for an hour, a day or 6 months? -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011

RE: [Vo]:How to fake a large-scale demonstration

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Iverson
Dennis wrote: Again I am not he, but I would opt for several small units to prove reproducibility, It should be obvious by now, and Rossi has stated it many times... his opinion on how to convince anyone, be they political or scientific or the press, is to build and install a decent size

RE: [Vo]:Latest Rossi news at PESN

2011-03-08 Thread Mark Iverson
No way... going for ANY govt regulatory body approval first is clearly a Lose, Lose proposition They will have to test it first to make any determination, and assess just what kind of certifications are needed, and by the time they get around to even starting the process, you'll be out of

[Vo]:Table showing status of reactors...

2011-03-14 Thread Mark Iverson
Here's a table (spreadsheet) of the different reactors and the status of various parts of the systems as of 12:30, March 14... http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/news/2011/110314fukushima_event-status-1.pdf http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/news/2011/110314fukushima_event-status-1.pdf

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