Terry, He has laid out the plan of how this will be done. He has said that input and output energy measurements will be done, and very soon. Just because he doesn't do them as fast and you'd like means nothing. Get a beer and go read some other forum until next week and you'll have your data.
I too have said in the past, why not close the loop and make it a self-runner and all skeptics would be silenced! How easy could that be! So I wasn't particularly thrilled with the way Sean is doing this, but, they told us exactly what the plan and schedule were, and so far are doing exactly what they said... Bedini has been around for 20+ years and claims to have an OU device in his garage, and there have been HUNDREDS of replication attempts. If he was as open with the critical details of how to replicate his device, numerous people would have been successful by now, and OU would have been proven to the point of commercialization. At least Steorn isn't dragging it out over many many years... I've been interested in OU and fringe science for 30 years, and stopped going to conferences after about 5 years because all you heard were excuses why the person with "the OU device" couldn't show up, or was testing the device before the conference and it 'burned out', and no replacement parts are available... I've heard it all. The public demos of this technology are happening, and will be done in a very short span of time compared to the BS that is too prevalent in this field. There's a lot of $ being made by people selling conferences and books and dvds of 'free enery secrets'! But where has that gotten us? NOWHERE! From my years of listening to claims and excuses, the way this is transpiring is quite different from the norm, and gives me some hope that they really have discovered something novel... I've waited thirty years... I can wait another week or two. Warmest back atcha! -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right I am relaxed, Mr. Iverson; but, Steorn's claims of OU are unjustified. He has not quantified the output energy in any way, form nor fashion. I have been working with saturated cores since 2006 and have a full understanding of what Steorn is doing. I do certainly hope that he has found something miraculous; but, it is obvious from his responses that he has not done a proper energy balance calculation for his "spinny thing". So far, all I have experienced is a smoke enema. I have been banned from his forum for asking revealing questions as have many others; however, I am registered under another alias and have learned a "different approach" to getting my messages through. ;-) Warmest regards, Terry On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Mark Iverson <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Yes, Terry, there has been a little discussion on inductance... BillB > back on 12/30 or 12/31 goes into great detail of what his understanding is. > > I don't believe any one here criticising Steorn and calling them > scammers has made an attempt to replicate their device... Correct me > if I'm wrong. Have you, Terry? And just because someone has done > some experiments with magnets and toroidal coils in the past doesn't mean > they've got special insight into what is going on in the Steorn device... > > Just sit back and relax, and watch and read, and in a very short time > we'll see how well the device and explanations hold up to what they > are claiming... Just because they choose to reveal their technology and > insights in a careful, methodical manner, doesn't mean they are disingenuous. > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:55 AM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Mark Iverson <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: >> >> If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum >> or Overunity.com, > > I read and post on both plus the VofB. I read all posst here and if > YOU kept up you would know that we have discussed how inductance of a coil > varies with the magnetic field. > > Many of us are also experimentalists and speak from experience, Mr. Zeropoint. > > Warm regards, > > Terry > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.142/2623 - Release Date: > 01/15/10 23:35:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.142/2623 - Release Date: > 01/15/10 23:35:00 > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.142/2623 - Release Date: 01/15/10 23:35:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.142/2623 - Release Date: 01/15/10 23:35:00
