Here's a question that I hope some resident Vort experts might be able
to answer.
Assuming, in due course, that Rossi's E-Cat, or some new and improved
CF version eventually drops the price of electricity down to just
under a penny a KwH... But, then, for the sake of argument, let's
assume that
From Jones:
...
9) The gain per metastable atom is at least ~100,000 times chemical but far
less than fission or fusion - and the only ash seen is in a change isotope
ratio of the tellurium (or other metastable fuel) with occasionally nuclear
transmutations due to the small proportion of
Title: Welcome Worry-Free Nuclear Power: Rossi's Energy Catalyzer
March 17, 2011.
http://pesn.com/2011/03/17/9501791_Welcome_Worry-Free_Nuclear_Power--Rossis_Energy_Catalyzer/
http://tinyurl.com/63tavuv
I love the E-Cat mock-up (conceptual interpretation). Looks like a tiny fridge.
Regards
Jones,
I did my best to comprehend the gist of your post. It was a
complicated read for me. Perhaps you can distill portions of it down
to my comprehension level. ;-)
Are you implying that the so-called Rossi effect does not actually
involve any kind transmutation what-so-ever? I'm a little
From Free Energy Times:
Translated from Greek (I believe):
Defkalion Green Technologies Preparing Factory in Xanthi, Greece to
Build Rossi/Focardi Energy Catalyzers
Thank you Jones,
I was actually able to wrap my brain around most of that.
I especially like the falsifiable conclusion. The sooner the better.
An afterthought: If Rossi (and probably Mills as well) don't currently
possess an accurate understanding of what's actually happening on the
atomic and
From Jed:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/17/nuclear-future-beyond-japan/
This is the first I have seen in a major U.S. mass media general newspaper.
QUOTE:
Just as Japan’s earthquake raises fears of catastrophe from a nuclear
meltdown and Mideast turmoil jeopardizes the
From Harry,
I don't wish to sound negative, but that is the Washington Times and not the
Washington Post. It is owned by reverend Sun Myung Moon who heads the
Unification Church.
Sigh... For more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Times
Excerpt: RECENT CHANGES:
In January 2008,
From Alan,
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3126617.ece
And here are 36 more questions – with Rossi's answers
Thanks, Alan,
Last QA caught my eye:
Q: Karl-Henrik Malmqvist: In the reactor there might be a flow of
electrons. Is it possible to directly take care of
From Jed:
...
Conventional nuclear power is now a great deal more vulnerable than fossil
fuels, because of the crisis in Fukushima.
It's recent industrial accidents (as coined by ACC in Profiles of
the Future) that can occasionally cause one wonder if Someone Above
might be pulling a few
From Peter
I know it is not in English, I am using Google Translate
What language is the source written in? Doesn't appear to be Italian
or Russian. Can you help me out here?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Esa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer
Succinct, and to the point.
I wonder how long it will take before the anti-CF police take notice
and proceed to correct it.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Japan's nuclear tragedy will of course bring into question the wisdom
of constructing new nuclear power plants in the U.S., and just when it
was beginning to experience another renaissance.
There has been a push to develop Thorium based reactors, a technology
that can't produce nuclear bombs. It
From Jones
The only winner in Japan from this tragedy will be Toshiba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_4S
Excerpt:
The technical specifications of the 4S reactor are unique in the
nuclear industry.[2] The actual reactor would be located in a sealed,
cylindrical vault 30 m (98 ft)
Jed,
My heart goes out to you and any family, extended family, friends and
associates you might know living in Japan. When you can please let us
know the status of Japan from your unique perspective and knowledge
base.
It's my understanding certain nuclear plants have been shut down...
mostly
Just another excellent opinion being express here... (MINE, of course!)
There seems to be much discussion about tactics and MOs... and,
sigh..., I think we miss the most important point of all.
Much of Rossi's predilections, warts and all, strike me as highly
altruistic in nature. Altruism is a
Jed sez:
...
As the VISA commercial goes: Priceless.
MasterCard! People like you are the bane of public relations
departments. Here the MasterCard company spends millions to
promote their brand, and you confuse their ads with the
competition's. (That happens all the time.)
Aw shucks,
Worth reading:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/03/09/rare.earth.magnet.race/index.html?hpt=Sbin
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
http://www.youtube.com/user/OrionworksVideos?feature=mhum#p/u
In the dark of the night, without notice to the public, without any
debate, without even printing copies of the bill, 18 Republicans used
procedural trickery to strip hundreds of thousands of workers in
Wisconsin of their collective
This is the more interesting footage:
http://www.youtube.com/user/OrionworksVideos?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/UJBbdVJ9G0U
http://www.youtube.com/user/OrionworksVideos?feature=mhum#p/u
In the dark of the night, without notice to the public, without any
debate, without even printing copies of the
From Terry:
Note: Rossi told me he would demonstrate the unit in Florida.
I wouldn't. It could be confiscated on the basis that is poses a
radiation threat to people in the US. I'd just ship it and test it
there.
From Noone Noone
That would be a huge win.
If they confiscate it then
Jed sez:
Terry Blanton wrote:
I don't trust our government.
I trust the government most of the time, in most situations.
It is no worse than General Motors or Toyota, and much better
than most Wall Street investment firms.
...except in Wisconsin.
We are currently experiencing technical
From Jones
...
Others apparently feel as I do, that a device that cannot be safely
unplugged makes me nervous.
Yes. Nuclear reactors (fission type) make me nervous. I wouldn't want
to live near one.
Indeed, the current lack of a clear understanding of the engineering
(and theory) involved
From Jones
...
Others apparently feel as I do, that a device that cannot be safely
unplugged makes me nervous.
Yes. Nuclear reactors (fission type) make me nervous. I wouldn't want
to live near one.
Indeed, the current lack of a clear understanding of the engineering
(and theory) involved
From Jed:
From Jones:
Yes. Your fear would be shared by the majority in the USA,
and that is likely to be the major reason that Rossi is not
doing it here. He knows he would not see this device sold
here during his lifetime, due to the NRC.
I think you are exaggerating the power of the
Hey, Jed and all,
Have you all seen the following commentary:
Why Amazon would be smart to give away the Kindle
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/03/04/amazon.free.kindle/index.html?hpt=C2
http://tinyurl.com/4catda6
Excerpt:
Last year, nearly $1 billion in e-books were sold, according to
Why Amazon would be smart to give away the Kindle
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/03/04/amazon.free.kindle/index.html?hpt=C2
http://tinyurl.com/4catda6
Additional excerpt:
According to Kelly, Bezos merely smiled and said, 'Oh, you noticed
that!' And then smiled again.
...
Make it
From Jed:
...
If they were to give away the Kindle hardware gadget at
this stage, I imagine the government anti-trust people
would look askance. Amazon would be giving away the gadgets
at a substantial loss, and I suppose regulators would see
that as an unfair way to squelch competing
Abd sez:
...
It means nothing about the science itself. As Jed has pointed out, there is
a definition of mainstream that's different. Judging mainstream has to
do with publication by independent publishers who are dedicated to general
science or to some particular science (or engineering.)
Robin sez:
...sounds to me as though he is tapping into the Van Allen belt energy.
This is the resonant transfer concept.
Oh dear! If this takes off I bet one can wager their suntan lotion
that in another hundred years or so or we'll experience a Van Allen
shortage and increases in skin
From Abd:
...
Younger scientists are becoming educated in what actually
happened in 1989-1990.
...
The skepticism is most entrenched among physicists, who
seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that there might be
something happening that they don't understand.
The irony here is that
As Terry pointed out in:
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/cold-fusion-predicted-10-yrs-183
Excerpt:
Igor Goryachev, a scientist from Research Institute of Nuclear
Instrumentation, Russia, said there has been considerable
interest in LENR projects in his country. “Interestingly, oil
From Terry:
Yes, but you are discounting the fact that the Russian oil tycoons are
nouveau riche. Russia's Siberian Khatru has been a long time in
development and they many not have the mindset that exists in Western
Oilers.
Hmmm...
Should we welcome the mindset of Russia's Siberian
Just a comment to Jed and Abd, and a few other patient participants.
I've enjoyed being a spectator to this thread. I guess that makes me
somewhat of a sadist.
By all means continue clarifying all the misconceptions being spewed
out from this particular thread. Many of you have harder skulls
Jed recently pondered:
He [Rossi] would gain much more credibility if he would only
allow the NRL to test his machine, but I doubt that will happen.
I do not understand why, but he does not want more independent
tests of his machine. It sure makes him look bad, doesn't it?
I am, of course,
From Peter Gluck:
As I wrote in my Ego-Out blog 2011 is a very bad year for skeptics. By the
way Bob Park is ignoring the subject with great enthusiasm.
Yes indeed. More than a month has passed by and Park's conspicuous
silence on this matter strikes me personally almost as if it is a kind
of
Jed sez:
...
By the way, I am just Mr. Rothwell. No PhD.
My background is linguistics, programming,
and translating Japanese technical articles into English.
Methinks Jed is shilling a unique proposal of his own:
How to Read Japanese
for Dummies
I bet you'd be good at it too. ;-)
Regards
From Robin:
...
Note that as Hydrino molecules shrink, the protons get closer
together, so their magnetic fields get stronger. If the magnetic
field increases with the inverse cube of the distance, and the
distance itself goes with the inverse square of the primary
quantum number, then that
From Harry:
Why haven't they invented...
cold fusion?
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bang/2011/0216/1224289927976.html
H This from the Irish Times.
Doesn't another Alternate Energy firm come to mind??? In psychological
terms, it's called displacement.
The mind is often very
From Peter
...
As regarding Rossi's bad PR he is just following Pitigrilli's Do not give
me advices, I can err myself The lack of a theory is disturbing, his method
of scale-up is strange, but he answers patiently to hundreds of questions of
diverse levels of IQ and good/ill-will. Put
A month has gone by since the Rossi-Focardi event transpired, and Dr.
Park continues to remain silent. Nothing pertinent has been mentioned
in his What's New weekly rant. I find it impossible to believe that
Dr. Park has not heard of the proceedings. Therefore, it seems to me
that his continued
svj sez:
A month has gone by since the Rossi-Focardi event transpired, and Dr.
Park continues to remain silent. Nothing pertinent has been mentioned
in his What's New weekly rant. I find it impossible to believe that
Dr. Park has not heard of the proceedings. Therefore, it seems to me
that
Jed sez:
Brian Ahern says it seem Rossi has put the fear of God
into Mills. Mills put out a me too! paper with dozens
of viewgraphs mainly ones showing that if he would, he
could build a a big energy generating system too, and by
golly it might be as good -- or maybe lots better! -- than
Terry Sez:
Probably not since you sent the unsubscribe message to Vortex-l.
You must send it to vortex-l-request for it to work.
I immediately realized my mistake and resubmitted it to
vortex-l-request. But of course nobody will see that! I just look
dumb! So, what else is new. ;-)
I think
Yes, Mr. Lawrence,
Indeed, this is very on-topic.
The news is spreading like wildfire through out the internet.
I think you and Jones have pretty much nailed the pertinent issues.
We stand here wondering if Rossi and/or Mills will put out in short
order. Or maybe someone else will suddenly be
Terry sez:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
Robots to get their own internet
By Mark Ward
Technology correspondent, BBC News
European scientists have embarked on a project to let robots share and
store what they discover about the world.
Called RoboEarth it will be a place
From Jones
...
This field cannot be simplified into an either/or situation.
Ockham has no place in this field – LENR it is inherently
complex.
Krivit and his sponsors are half-right (but half-wrong),
as is anyone who says that LENR is pure fusion and nothing
else.
There are clearly
Let me second and third some of the counter claims raised about the
steam temperature issue.
From Mr. Lawrence,
...
If the water flow rate is fixed, and the power level is allowed
to vary, then, if steam is coming out, its temperature will vary,
and will be determined at any moment by how
From Mr. Lawrence:
...
You are making an unconscious assumption here, which is that
water is being added just exactly fast enough to replenish
the water which is boiled away.
That's not what's happening! The water is being added at
a constant rate, with no feedback from the reactor!
And
From: The Hindu - Science and Technology section
Call for inter-disciplinary studies in ‘cold fusion'
See:
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/article1165494.ece
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
SUBJECT: Group seeks to discredit Rossi
From Abd:
...
But I will note a generic way to fake Rossi's
work, others have proposed other possibilities,
and, if it's fake, the truth might even be a
hybrid. I have no doubt but that it could be
done, that even more convincing demonstrations
Please keep in mind that the following quotes have been extracted from
individuals whose opinions may have changed (or moderated) in subtle
ways later on in the on-going thread.
From Mr. Lawrence:
I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that Levi
doesn't believe it's for real, no matter what
he
From Mark Iverson:
...
Just assume for one second that the demo was real, and
that you are Rossi and have been pouring in your financial
livelihood into making those first 100 reactors... Would
you publish the location for all the world to see...
Hell NO!!! That would be the most idiotic
Much of the on-going speculation, of which I, too, am guilty of having
propagated, reminds me of a poignant and all-too-brief scene I recall
from the recent apocalyptic film titled, 2012, - which by the way
was a really awful film. 100% special effects - 0% plot.
Out in the wild snow-capped
From Jed:
From a PDF file just received:
...
12.30 F . C elani
M.Melich
: Brief Report on Rossi-Focardi 10 KW Demo
: Additional Remarks on Rossi-Focardi Experiment
For me this truly begs a nagging question. Of what importance, if any,
could actually be discussed at such a meeting
From Jed:
Some follow-up comments.
For me this truly begs a nagging question. Of what importance,
if any, could actually be discussed at such a meeting
conducted by Melich.
A great deal. Melich has a lot of technical info on this.
He has read the papers published by Rossi and understands
Mr Lawrence sez:
What's a BoD?
In this case: Board of Directors
But right now, I could use a doughnut.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
It would seem advantageous to all participating ICCF-16 participants
to track down a legitimate witness to the December/January Italian
demonstration, hopefully a physics professor. Make an offer he can't
refuse. Personally fly him to ICCF-16, promise to pay his hotel room,
and all his meals...
From: S. Krivit's NET Installment #31
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3616ideologies.shtml
16. Cold Fusion Versus LENR: Competing Ideologies
Paragraph excerpt:
In January 2010, Melich and his second wife, Marianne Macy,
who writes for Infinite Energy magazine, began producing
Good detective work, Jed.
I hope they hook it up to a generator.
In the fickle PR world, it seems to me that the device generating 1
megawatts of electricity would be the most convincing demo of all,
especially if it can be clearly proved that there cannot possibly
exist the equivalent of a one
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/01/28/41688958.html
Excerpt:
[sed: president of the Kurchatov Institute and Academician at the
Russian Academy of Sciences]
There is not a single study indicating that cold fusion
is essentially impossible. There is a notion called muonic
catalysis, in the course
I think it would behoove us to acquire some familiarity with this
Greek based company called: DEFKALION Energy Group. My initial Google
searches haven't brought up anything of significance, though my
searches are still preliminary.
The email address for making inquiries is,
Another Friday has come around. I wunder if the honorable Dr. Park
will continue his distinctive silence on the Rossi-Focardi matter in
his What's New column. Dr. Park has GOT to be aware of it.
Inquiring minds what to know.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
From Peter:
too small a subject for such a Great, Omniscient, Man
Not likely. ;-)
In all seriousness, Dr. Park's silence strikes me as unusual.
The following is pure speculation on my part, so take it FWIW. With
that disclaimer in place - lemme say this about that...
As Dirty Harry once
From Mr. Lawrence:
...
(The only possible spoke in the wheel at this point would be if it's not for
real. That, of course, would be an insurmountable problem.)
LOL
Very deadpan of you, Mr. Lawrence. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Does anyone recall if the subtitle: Nuclear experiments blog was
there all along, or is it a recent addition. I don't remember.
Actually, I don't care either way.
Actually, I kinda hope it is a recent addition. From my POV it would
suggest that perhaps Rossi does actually give a hoot what people
From Mark
Now sing along with me... from that ol' folk song...
Where have all the neutrons gone...
I did start singing. ;-)
' ...perhaps into heavy fermions? ;-)
This from the comment section of the Knol page on CF...
Consider heavy fermion superconductors
The August 2009 issue of
From Jed:
See:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Cold-fusion-turns-hot-city-to-host-meet-/articleshow/7357005.cms
Excerpt:
According to Dr M Srinivasan, chairman of the organizing
committee, the conference will deal with the recent
breakthrough in cold fusion theory
Jed sez:
...
See? This is an example of wild guessing and unfounded speculation. This is
what I was complaining about before, in the thread, Your suspicion is not
proof there is a problem. BUT, it would only be a problem if I were to make
this back-of-the-envelope calculation, then jump to
Jones sez:
...
… maybe there should be martinis all around – which drink – BTW could be
called the rossi … if you want to get into a trivia contest g Bottom’s up
! and put it all on Park’s tab.
Regarding the honorable Dr. Park:
Latest weekly issue, Friday, January 21, 2011: What's New
From Jed:
I uploaded a version of the report with some corrections to the English
grammar and spelling, here:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGreportonhe.pdf
I have not cleared it with them yet, but I'm sure it is okay. It is night
there.
Is this the report we've been waiting for? I could
Wait a minute:
My eyeballs scanned the following paragraph:
Page 6:
Conclusions
The amount of power and energy produce during both tests is indeed
impressive and, TOGETHER WITH THE SELF SUSTAINING STATE REACH DURING
[caps mine] [TEST 1] could be an indication that the system is working
as a
My eyeballs then scanned the following paragraph:
On page 4:
---
Before ending [Test 1] all the power was reduced and then switched off
from the resistors and also the hydrogen supply was closed. No
pressure decrease was noted in the H2 bottle. EVEN IN THIS CONDITIONS
THE SYSTEM KEPT
From Mark Iverson:
Good or bad, the genie is out of the bottle and there's
no way anyone can stuff it back in... I sincerely hope,
pray, that the human species has matured enough to accept
the responsibility that comes with this kind of discovery.
I agree, Mark.
Sunday Sermon
Potential
Terry sez:
Personally, I hope that 2012 will usher in a new sun. Not a supernova
of Betelgeuse; but, a slow, cold fusion which will render the
petrodollar obsolete. May the end of the Mayan calender on the winter
solstice be the day that megawatt H-Ni steam engine goes online.
In which
Jed sez:
...
We have about 1,000 readers a week normally. I do not know how many are
repeat visitors. Word is getting out, gradually, but the population of the
world is large, and people like Robert Park have access to the mass media,
which reaches a far larger audience than LENR-CANR.org
About an hour ago I sed:
Shouldn't we have expected commentary from the doctor [Dr. Park] by now?
I wonder what's going on in that department. Does he have a cold or something?
Well, the doctor has finally spoken
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/index.html
... and he has decided not to mention
Here's a handy-dandy Table of Nuclides
http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Jed:
WARNING TO ALL OUR READERS: THE REPORT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
BOLOGNA WILL BE DELIVERED MONDAY , JAN 24, ANYTIME.
YOU WILL FIND IT ON THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS AND WE
ALREADY GIVE TO EVERYBODY TO REPRODUCE IT EVERYWHERE, FOR
ANY PURPOSE, FREE.
WARM REGARDS,
THE BOARD OF
From Harry,
Article uses Robert Park as an authority on the subject.
http://news.discovery.com/tech/cold-fusion-claims-resurface.html
As predicted by Mr. Rothwell, it would appear that the majority of
popular news organizations willing to stick their necks out and file a
brief report on the
Playing devil's advocate in situations like this serve a useful
purpose. Honoring our skeptical bones hopefully help keep our feet
firmly planted on the ground, particularly when our wings would love
to start flapping right now! ...to soar into the stratosphere is
everyone's dream.
See:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/italian-scientists-claim-dubious-cold-fusion-breakthrough
http://tinyurl.com/4c768rx
After casting dispersions they had the following to say:
But the duo does have something going for them in
the fact that they’ve demonstrated their device
Hi Mauro,
I'm glad your follow-up on Miles Mathis was not lost because of the
recent Italian Brouhaha.
Your initial introduction to Mathis to the Vort Collective got my
attention. I started reading his papers. The article that has
interested me the most was the one in regards to: Explaining the
See:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/message/866
We are working on an electrical demonstration for 2011. As reported
we have and continue to have experts independently run the systems
with full disclosure of the chemistry and full characterization of
the
As best as I can tell, Wikipedia's entry on Cold Fusion has remained
blissfully unaware of the recent weekend events in Italy.
I wonder if Mr. Lomax might like to comment.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Horace,
Many of you I am sure fondly remember the many fun postings here from the
Dime Box Saloon by Richard C Macaulay. I was surprised recently to find
this obituary for him:
http://obit.memorialoakschapel.com/obitdisplay.html?task=Printid=757483
He died Feb. 19, 2010.
He had
Speaking of another old warrior, we have not heard from Mike Carrell
in a spell. Actually, for quite some time now. Considering recent
events I would have expected something akin to a rebuttal from Mike,
particularly in regards to his position, (or defense), of BLP. Mike is
up there in years.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:26 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Late in December of last year I sent an inquiry to the officially
recognized Society for Classical Physics Yahoo group. I asked Dr.
Mills if BLP was planning on assembling kind of a demonstration
Not sure if the following tidbit has already been posted here or not,
but it seemed relevant considering some of the controversy surrounding
Rossi.
See:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/15/rossi-discovery-what-to-say/#comment-67
*
In addition to Jed's recent, and highly appreciated, report on the
Energy Catalyzer), I noticed that one of my latest Google news feeds
keyed to Blacklight Power directed me to the pesn.com Pure Energy
Systems (PesWiki) web site where a verbose (and HIGHLY optimistic and
probably unrealistic)
Late in December of last year I sent an inquiry to the officially
recognized Society for Classical Physics Yahoo group. I asked Dr.
Mills if BLP was planning on assembling kind of a demonstration since
certain news feeds I'd received earlier in the month seemed to imply
that something would be
Jed sez:
...
I was thinking for a moment that Italy is not just 8 hours ahead of us, it
is 2 days ahead. If they develop this technology -- and we don't -- they can
set their clocks 50 years ahead of us.
IOW, reports of the fall of the Roman Empire have been greatly exaggerated.
Regards
From Jones,
Underwhelming, so far. One detail skeptics will likely hit on is seen in the
Google translation
From Jed,
...
If this is true, and the mass media believes it, it may well be the biggest
sensation in cold fusion since 1989.
To put it another way, if this is true, I guess it is Game Over and We Won.
I have difficulty taking that possibility seriously. It could happen though.
There is
From Mauro:
We've have talked in the past about entanglement understood as an
hyperdimensional connection.
According to this paper on Efimov states, Topologist Predicts New Form
of Matter (http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26144/)
The deep and unworldly link between particles in
From Terry,
From Clanzer's site:
http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?774-STEORN-update-Phil
sigh
Excerpt:
Unfortunately we were unable to replicate Over Unity (OU). Using Steorn’s
measurement technique we did get results that appeared to demonstrate OU.
However, we cannot agree
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338
Interesting speculation.
What is the atomic number belonging to a Hypole. Is it stable? 1? If
it is 1, how and why would such an atomic species be considered
different than Mills' hydrino?
Robin, what's an IC electron?
Regards
Steven Vincent
Reading the blog, I gaather a hypole can also be called virtual
neutron in the Hydrogen Nickel system.
I wonder how such a species might be different from muons.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Harry,
I scanned and uploaded this document to scribd.com
It was written in the late seventies so the statistics are
dated but the subject matter is still relevant given the
current discussion about values, economics and the
endless discussions about energy on vortex ;-)
From Jed:
I tried some methods of OCRing this document, but the text is too small. The
errors make the results unreadable.
There is no point to uploading this kind of document. It is a darn shame.
http://www.scribd.com/full/46090006?access_key=key-gsc2g9c2bkbszd52bum
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