Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
In this experiment the possible source of the energy is the electric arc. ***Yup. It's possible that it's the arc that causes the jump to LENR. In Ed Storms's perspective, it is cracks which force a 1 dimensional string to form and somehow the laws of thermodynamics don't apply because it's no

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Brad Lowe
Axil and all, This theory would explain the claimed transmutation when carbon is microwaved. Does carbon in a microwave transmute or not? I can't seem to find a real answer, yet it seems like a simple question and experiment, given the availability of very pure carbon (and kitchen appliances.)

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Axel, I do understand that there are good theories and not so good dittos. Why so adamant? It seems to me that there is a myriad of theories, some of them have similarities, some of them exclude each other. Very little is won by finding holes in the other theories. Problems are many and the

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Axil Axil
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-297/aflb297m329.pdf *Low Energy Induced Nuclear Fusion Via Coherence* *Of The Quantum Vacuum, Zero-Point Energy* *Through Ultra Close Range Casimir Effects* Page 1119 The analysis of the carbon residue is tabulated below for the four samples collected as

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Axil Axil
More... Going from carbon and water to nickel is a LENR reaction that requires the injection of a good deal of energy to occur. Since carbon are water are low Z elements that transmute to high Z elements, just about all the elements produced require external energy for the reaction to occur.

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The most flexible explanation of the LENR reaction is one that entails a powerful bolt of energy impacting on an unspecified but variable pile of atoms that result in any sort of recombination of any number of protons and

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Bob Higgins
I completely disagree Axil, the Mizuno endothermic (or Ahern endothermic) observation is not at all catastrophic. You said: This contemplation of an endothermic mechanism is a catastrophic sacrilege of epic proportions for Ed because it violates his beloved and inviolable laws of

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Axil Axil
I seriously doubt that Ed Storms would permit the blatant violation of the strictures of thermodynamics to embrace your scenario. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I completely disagree Axil, the Mizuno endothermic (or Ahern endothermic) observation

Re: [Vo]:the fly in the ointment

2014-07-23 Thread Bob Higgins
This is not a violation of thermodynamics, but a failure to identify the true starting total energy state which must include the fractional Rydberg states of the atoms if such states exist. Yeong Kim's paper describes his solution to the wave equation for sub-ground states and his solution says