Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Robert Lynn's message of Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:56:00 +: Hi, [snip] I believe Rossi operates at about 25bar (350psi). Doesn't his patent app. say 2-20 bar? If so then one could probably get something to work (for demonstration purposes) near the lower end of the scale. It may not be

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot -- BIG V

2012-02-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Engineer wrote: And I know you read the big V; so, did you figure it out before you read it? DefkalionGT: We respect big V and its role/commitment in CF/LENR for so many years.

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot -- BIG V

2012-02-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Engineer wrote: And I know you read the big V; so, did you figure it out before you read it? DefkalionGT: We respect big V and its role/commitment in CF/LENR for so many years. Yeah, that was the Arrg! Go on! reference

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
Peter, How about this cheap heating element. Fits inside a 1/4 copper tube perfectly. http://www.ebay.com/itm/350505999493?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3D350505999493%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1_rdc=1 Jojo

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Peter B
handle this type of pressures Question : Do you think Rossi heats the chamber while the H is pressuised at 2000 psi Thanks Pete From: jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:27:03 +0800 Peter, How about this cheap

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
has other sizes. Jojo - Original Message - From: Peter B To: Vortex Ron Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:52 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot JoJo Thankyou for helping , it might just do the trick I have a young electrical engineer helping me out once

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Robert Lynn
while the H is pressuised at 2000 psi Thanks Pete -- From: jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:27:03 +0800 Peter, How about this cheap heating element. Fits inside a 1/4 copper tube

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
be careful with the effect of hydrogen on any metal (make hydrides, make brittle, leaks and then self-ignite- H can burns a µg/min according to wikipedia, check airliquide.com for safety of H2...) maybe (I have no clue) H2 can transform the characteristics of a thermocouple, especially at high

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Jones Beene
This is bad practice ! (and it is not a small point). Often thermocouple is used generically. Thermocouples are NOT adequate for this kind of measurement, in the long term. They are cheaper but degrade too easily. For reliable measurement of hydrogen at higher temps - you should use RTDs.

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Robert Lynn
I my previous job as a IC engine development engineer we used platinum RTDs (also called PRTs) for most water and air temperatures (200°C), but thermocouples for all exhaust temperatures (500°C) where errors of 1-2°C don't really matter. While platinum RTDs are best, they are several times the

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: A cheap thermocouple with error of 1-2°C is OK for an amateur experiment measuring reactor temperatures that are in the range 4-700°C . . . Many professional HVAC engineers use K-Type thermocouples. They are not only for amateurs. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Peter B
Feb 2012 11:56:00 + Subject: Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot From: robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 2000-6000psi hydrogen is pretty dangerous, be very careful about your design and setup, make sure all your valves seals and fittings are able to withstand those pressures, keep

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Peter B
noticed that ebay seller has different lengths at different watts , should help for the future (if we ever find a reaction ) Thanks again Pete From: jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:45:07 +0800 Pete, you're welcome

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
JoJo wrote: Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the embarrassing experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and many other people here. Vortex has been the most useful forum as far as gaining insight into replicating Rossi. And PeterB wrote: I have only been

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-02-01 Thread Peter B
Thanks Mark That should help quite a bit Pete From: zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:05:10 -0800 JoJo wrote:“Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the embarrassing experimental advice coming. I have

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
You should not hold the champagne. Rossi said that once his reaction was going out of control and Levi, I think it was him, injected Nitrogen to stop the reaction. So, I don't think this is exclusive to Argon, rather, it is by cutting off H and substituting it for something else. 2012/1/31 ecat

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-31 Thread Peter B
products or companies that might fit the bill Thanks for you help Pete Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:48:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot From: ecatbuil...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it. Hold

[Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
So, Jones (and others) what do you think we are seeing here? http://imgur.com/g26QI [img]http://imgur.com/g26QI[/img] Temperature vs time? T

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Direct Link: http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg T On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: So, Jones (and others) what do you think we are seeing here? http://imgur.com/g26QI [img]http://imgur.com/g26QI[/img] Temperature vs time? T

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Direct Link: http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg My guess is the red (Ch2) is the input from the Variac and blue (Ch1) is the reactor temp. Or do you think it has something to do with the democrats and republicans? ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread ecat builder
I'm pretty sure they are both temperatures. Heater temp (red) and reactor temp (blue) is my guess. The heater is in the 100C range, the other in the 400C range. The spikes are a puzzle though... Maybe transient interference from turning on or off the heater? It doesn't seem possible for the tip

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different locations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfjOIoPwolg From: Terry Blanton Direct Link: http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg T On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Patrick Ellul
You can read it blourrily - Channel 1 inner, Channel 2 external On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Patrick Ellul
I meant, blurred - gee i wrote that email in a rush! On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote: You can read it blourrily - Channel 1 inner, Channel 2 external On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes, it is basically the

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Leguillon
to tell you goodnight From: ellulpatr...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:06:17 +1100 Subject: Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot To: vortex-l@eskimo.com I meant, blurred - gee i wrote that email in a rush! On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote: You can read

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: As for the sparks: In this tests there where supposed to be two and we got two. In other tests, we can maintain the sparks very very close to each other and for as long as we want. They also told us to tell

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different locations. I asked about the second spike and whether they added H to

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:20 PM 1/30/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different locations. In the BLP video

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:35 PM 1/30/2012, Robert Leguillon wrote: As for the sparks: In this tests there where supposed to be two and we got two. In other tests, we can maintain the sparks very very close to each other and for as long as we want. Frequencies! I smell Frequencies! They also told us to tell you

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton I asked about the second spike and whether they added H to cause it. They admitted they did something; but, it did not involve adding H. Well, since they say they do not use RF then what would it be? The Letts/Cravens effect involves lasers. None

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it. By Jove, I think you have it! Should I ask? Or simply say Arggg go on! I think I shall. eg T

Re: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread ecat builder
Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it. Hold the champagne.. Piantelli says argon stops the nuclear process... http://www.rexresearch.com/piantelli/piantelli.htm In the pictures the yellow tubing appears to be for vacuum. But later in the video a tube goes

RE: [Vo]:DGT Screenshot

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
In the first video that I watched, when the camera panned left to view the gas cylinder on the floor, they blurred out the vid shortly after the tank came into view... so are they conscious of what gets onto a video??? Yes... -mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene