Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
DOS was more a CP/M clone than Unix... Unix is structurally multiprocess with virtual memory, and macro kernel. it is not CP/M or DOS 2014/1/25 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone malign his

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic imitation of UNIX. That is incorrect. They brought it out within months, not years. IBM wanted an operating system for the upcoming PC. Microsoft

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
You can't really compare DOS and UNIX. UNIX was built so researchers could share time on a big server system through dumb terminals. DOS was built for a single user on a low resource personal computer. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
You are bringing me back to my Kaypro Computer days. Good Stuff On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after and was an anorexic imitation of UNIX. That is incorrect. They brought it out within

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-25 Thread James Bowery
There were a number of operating systems around at that time but few that would run on the 8086/8088 hardware. One with multitasking was the iRMX86 OShttp://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/intel/iRMX/142721-003_iRMX_86_System_Programmers_Reference_Manual_May81.pdfsupplied by Intel with its

[Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread pagnucco
From ecatworld.com --- PRESS RELEASE: Industrial Heat Has Acquired Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat Technology This just out! Industrial Heat Has Acquired Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat Technology RESEARCH TRIANGLE, N.C., Jan. 24, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Industrial Heat, LLC announced today that it has

RE: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jones Beene
Now we see clearly why Mills arranged his hasty demo, weeks before he should have. Perhaps the aggressive approach of Industrial Heat will at least get more information out there to assimilate. -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com From ecatworld.com --- PRESS RELEASE:

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Craig
A couple of links for Industrial Heat and Cherokee Investment Partners. http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=127890 http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=245130378 http://www.cherokeefund.com/index.htm

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread pagnucco
Thanks. I notice the advisory committee is a remarkable collection of talent. See - http://cherokeechallenge.com/team/ This gives Rossi a lot of credibility. I wonder how this will impact various industries and markets. -- Lou Pagnucco Craig wrote: A couple of links for Industrial Heat and

RE: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread pagnucco
But, isn't this a good thing? It forces potential investors to act quickly, or lose out. -- Lou Pagnucco Jones Beene wrote: Now we see clearly why Mills arranged his hasty demo, weeks before he should have. Perhaps the aggressive approach of Industrial Heat will at least get more

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Craig
So if Rossi sold the rights to the product, then doesn't this mean that he's out of the business? If so, then it seems like quite a waste of time. If the product is credible, then he threw away billions. Craig On 01/24/2014 04:38 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: This gives Rossi a lot of

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: So if Rossi sold the rights to the product, then doesn't this mean that he's out of the business? Well, it could mean he is a stockholder instead of the boss. If so, then it seems like quite a waste of time. If the product is credible, then he threw

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread leaking pen
Doesnt say what he acquired it for, probably cash, royalties, and stock. if he's smart. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: So if Rossi sold the rights to the product, then doesn't this mean that he's out of the business? If so, then it seems like quite a

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Craig
On 01/24/2014 05:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: If so, then it seems like quite a waste of time. If the product is credible, then he threw away billions. Not if he sold it for billions. I don't see what you mean. The terms of sale have not been make public. I have no idea what they are,

RE: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jones Beene
Rossi had already sold the US rights over a year ago to Ampenergo, and they are the ones who apparently sold to IH not Rossi. AFAIK Rossi apparently retains his most of rights in Europe and Asia but he has sold out in some countries. It will be interesting to know the status of China.

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Doesnt say what he acquired it for, probably cash, royalties, and stock. if he's smart. You mean, it does not say what THEY acquired the rights for from Rossi, and ROSSI probably got cash, future royalties, and stock. I think that would be normal in a

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
Lou I agree with you. Must be good to have business people take over at this time. Craig, I think you see this with the wrong colored glasses. To realize that one does not have the capacity (Money, knowledge, network, credibility, personality etc.) and therefore sell when one has put in what one

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but it seems highly unlikely that Industrial Heat has access to that kind of money. Not too many people have access to 'billions'. You misunderstand. No one would pay billions up front. That would be in the form of royalties if the product

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: In other words, they get ownership now, but they have to pay now and also in the future. And if they don't pay billions, he gets ownership back. This is the sort of thing Edison did when he founded General Electric. He joined forces with Big Money. See:

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread blazespinnaker
Somehow I think millions plus your name to live on throughout history would be slightly more important than Billions at age 60+ Sent from Windows Mail From: Lennart Thornros Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎January‎ ‎24‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎07‎ ‎PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Lou I agree with you. Must be

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread pagnucco
Jed, On a more selfish note, you probably have had a number inquiries from industries since the first FP press conference, which do you think will benefit if LENR proves to be what it claims? Some obvious losers I think are coal, fission, petroleum, maybe utilities. The winners might be

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Somehow I think millions plus your name to live on throughout history would be slightly more important than Billions at age 60+ Why not have both?!? Billions in royalties plus having your name live on. Why do you have to choose? Rossi is not a fool. He knows

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread leaking pen
I've never heard anyone malign his programming skills. moral character, visual design skills, absolutely, but never his coding chops. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Somehow I think millions plus your name to live

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Bill Gates is very much focused on his legacy. Mr. Rossi 'effect' no doubt is as well. At a certain age, you appreciate your mortality and see things a bit different than younger folk do. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone malign

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: On a more selfish note, you probably have had a number inquiries from industries since the first FP press conference, which do you think will benefit if LENR proves to be what it claims? I have not had that many inquiries from industry. More often from

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone malign his programming skills. moral character, visual design skills, absolutely, but never his coding chops. I believe I have seen jealous people attack his programming skills as well. People often denigrate Microsoft as a whole.

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread James Bowery
Gates should do no further philanthropy until he puts his wealth and influence behind shifting the tax base off of economic activity (income, capital gains, sales, value added, inheritance, etc.) and onto (liquidation value assessed) wealth with the bulk of government revenue disbursed as

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Looks like Frank Acland was right on target with the Cherokee information from a couple of weeks ago. Excellent work digging through the clutter. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:25 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: From ecatworld.com --- PRESS RELEASE: Industrial Heat Has Acquired Andrea

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2014/01/24/onfirmed-raleighs-cherokee-buys-into.html On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Frank Acland was right on target with the Cherokee information from a couple of weeks ago. Excellent work

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2014/01/24/onfirmed-raleighs-cherokee-buys-into.html Interesting comments here: Confirmed: Raleigh’s Cherokee buys into controversial nuclear tech device Executives at Cherokee Investment

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Skeptics of Rossi’s technology, including Forbes contributor http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/11/29/why-im-certain-that-the-rossi-e-cat-doesnt-work-as-advertisedTim

Re: [Vo]:Industrial Heat Acquires E-Cat Technology

2014-01-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard anyone malign his programming skills. moral character, visual design skills, absolutely, but never his coding chops. Gates was at the helm of Microsoft when it acquired DOS. DOS came out many years after