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-Mark
From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I never said it was ‘exotic’…
And I never attempted to explain something as simply claiming it was a
resonant phenomenon…
Stop putting words in my mouth.
This whole discussion started with your
?
-mark
From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I would have thought with my clear statements about using extremely
intense magnetic fields and smashing particles head on at extremely high
velocities, it would have been obvious that I was referring to
Zawodny, NASA Langley Research
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I would have thought with my clear statements about using extremely intense
magnetic fields and smashing particles head on at extremely high velocities,
it would have
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
JC:
Thx for the explanations, relevant or not, however, I still think that the
discussion wandered from my initial point, which was, given proper
conditions, one can disrupt the natural balance within a
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
JC:
Thx for the explanations, relevant or not, however, I still think that the
discussion wandered from my
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
The END RESULT is brute force smashing things together… there is NO
resonance in that! That is, and always has been, my point. The actual
interaction of the particles is by brute force, NOT RESONANCE.
Collisions can be resonant too.
Please explain.
-Mark
From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
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“Collisions can be resonant too…”
** **
Please explain…
**
Here's an abstract from PRL, which I found with 10 seconds of google. Have
you heard of it?
Resonant collisional energy
Nope, let me look into it... thx.
-Mark
From: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Mark Iverson
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Nope, let me look into it... thx.
I meant google. Have you heard of google.
Don't bother looking in to the particular resonant collisions. It's just an
example of where collision energy can be tailored
: Joshua Cude [mailto:joshua.c...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Nope, let
JC wrote:
Say what? That's just gibberish. I seriously doubt that Zawodny has any
idea what that sentence means, if it means anything at all. A physical
effect is allowed by a breakdown in a mathematical approximation? What that
sentence does is make people's eyes glaze over, and think it sounds
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
JC wrote:
“Say what? That's just gibberish. I seriously doubt that Zawodny has any
idea what that sentence means, if it means anything at all. A physical
effect is allowed by a breakdown in a
Joshua wrote:
So, random atomic motion representing a fraction of an eV per atom is
somehow supposed to be concentrated by a factor of much more than a million
by some resonant phenomenon.
ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE.
You are reasoning from the physics of brute force, which is all that nuclear
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Joshua wrote:
“So, random atomic motion representing a fraction of an eV per atom is
somehow supposed to be concentrated by a factor of much more than a million
by some resonant phenomenon.”
** **
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint posted a study on Rydberg matter a few weeks ago
which stated that this special form of exotic hydrogen (alkali matter) can
amplify quantum mechanical properties of atoms by some 11 orders of
magnitude; that is 10 to the 11th power. The Coulomb barrier cannot protect
the
, December 05, 2011 9:31 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research
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Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint posted a study on Rydberg matter a few weeks ago
which stated that this special form of exotic hydrogen (alkali matter) can
amplify
:* Monday, December 05, 2011 9:31 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley
Research Center Edit
** **
** **
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint posted a study on Rydberg matter a few weeks ago
which stated that this special form of exotic
It is clearly demonstrable that there exist mechanisms (of unknown type) in
room temperature condensed matter to create at least 10's of keV, check out
the rather fascinating following video:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/10588/X_Rays_from_Sellotape/
On 5 December 2011 15:52, Joshua
Am 05.12.2011 19:50, schrieb Robert Lynn:
It is clearly demonstrable that there exist mechanisms (of unknown type) in
room temperature condensed matter to create at least 10's of keV, check out
the rather fascinating following video:
but allows hydrino motion
unopposed.
Fran
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley
Research Center Edit
Joshua wrote:
So, random
I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement,
Resonance is very much a part of brute force physics.
I think I need to explain resonance to you.
Resonance is an interesting phenomenon where SMALL INputs of force or energy
into a system results in VERY LARGE OUTputs. There is nothing
Thx for taking time to post that reference Axil.
I'm visually oriented, so some of the charts do look familiar.
-m
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
** **
I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement,
“Resonance is very much a part of brute force physics.”
** **
I think I need to explain resonance to you…
Resonance is an interesting
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
It is clearly demonstrable that there exist mechanisms (of unknown type)
in room temperature condensed matter to create at least 10's of keV, check
out the rather fascinating following video:
I wouldn't say
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement,
“Resonance is very much a part of brute force physics.”
I think I need to
Cude replied with the following 'reasonable sounding' rebuttal, but it is
faulty at a fundamental level. It is not a valid comparison... I think he
was just accusing someone else of that same thing.
I guess it depends what you mean by brute force physics. To me, when I
push a child on a
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
The simple fact is, that given the SAME amount of ‘push’ at regular
intervals, a resonant system will achieve what appears to be extreme
amplitudes whereas the non-resonant push of the SAME amount of force,
I just posted a slideshow from Dr. Joseph M. Zawodny of NASA Langley
Research Center from the September 22 LENR Workshop.
http://www.ecatplanet.net/content.php?133-LENR-Presentation-by-Joseph-Zawodny-2011
Its a 35 page PowerPoint presentation that covers history, theory,
ramifications, and more.
On 2011-12-05 01:44, ecat builder wrote:
I just posted a slideshow from Dr. Joseph M. Zawodny of NASA Langley
Research Center from the September 22 LENR Workshop.
http://www.ecatplanet.net/content.php?133-LENR-Presentation-by-Joseph-Zawodny-2011
Its a 35 page PowerPoint presentation that
Interesting. Long on theory. Short on data.
The only set of slide notes in the presentation said the following about
WLT:
The theory makes specific, testable predictions. Predictions that can be
inexpensively verified.
-mark
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting. Long on theory. Short on data.
Long on obfuscation.
A few things that struck me about that presentation:
Slide 13:
Zawodny is up front about the energy needed for electron capture by a
proton,
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
The only set of slide notes in the presentation said the following about
WLT:
“The theory makes specific, testable predictions. Predictions that can be
inexpensively verified.”
Well, one
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