Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 14 May 2019 20:11:46 -0400: Hi Axil, [snip] >If what you propose is true then the production and/or the purification of >metals by a customer of the ferrosilicon with this produce would be near >impossible let along noticeable. The key to this issue is

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-14 Thread Axil Axil
If what you propose is true then the production and/or the purification of metals by a customer of the ferrosilicon with this produce would be near impossible let along noticeable. The key to this issue is detection of this impurity in larges amount by the either the smelter or any of its

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 14 May 2019 00:34:05 -0400: Hi, >How about the hazard risks? Note the "human contact" from a previous post. When the material was analyzed/used the Triiron dodecarbonyl would probably have dissociated into Fe + CO again, and the CO escaped as a gas,

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-13 Thread Axil Axil
How about the hazard risks? Safety Information of Triiron dodecarbonyl (CAS NO.17685-52-8): Hazard Codes: [image: Flammable]F,[image: Harmful]Xn,[image: Toxic]T On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:00 PM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 12 May 2019 20:28:44 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >The

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 12 May 2019 20:28:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The externally low Melting point?: ?165 °C (329 °F; 438 K) would seem to >me to be a dead give-a-way to the presence of 25% volume of Fe3(CO)12 by >weight. If the output from the reactor/furnace were cooled very

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-12 Thread Axil Axil
The externally low Melting point‎: ‎165 °C (329 °F; 438 K) would seem to me to be a dead give-a-way to the presence of 25% volume of Fe3(CO)12 by weight. Here again the safety profile is problematic Triiron dodecarbonyl Safety Profile Safety Information of Triiron dodecarbonyl (CAS

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 12 May 2019 04:30:24 -0400: Hi, [snip] I can't accept Kervran without reading at least one of his books. An English version would be preferable, but I'm not willing to pay over $100 for a copy. I tried buying a $20 version online, but they wouldn't ship to

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 12 May 2019 03:39:08 -0400: Hi, [snip] 1) It may be Fe3(CO)12, a solid in the form of micro-crystals, rather than iron pentacarbonyl. 2) They didn't even know it was present, hence were hardly in a position to warn anyone. >Fe(CO)5 is toxic, which is of

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-12 Thread Axil Axil
Why doesn't a living organism burn up when that organism is transmuting elements through nuclear fusion and/or fission? The LENR reaction will allow the energy and particles produced by transmutation to escape to the far field while the LENR reaction is active. This energy and particle product of

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-12 Thread Axil Axil
Fe(CO)5 is toxic, which is of concern because of its volatility (vapour pressure: 21 millimetres of mercury (2.8 kPa) at 20 °C). If inhaled , iron pentacarbonyl may cause lung irritation, toxic pneumonitis

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 11 May 2019 23:40:53 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The ferrosilicon chemistry > >https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/silicon-monoxide > >as per its reference as follows: > >Production of Ferroalloys

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
Why do microbs live through fusion and fission reactions during transmutation of elements. This transmutation process can not be denied. But no one has explained how LENR works in microbs and why these reactions produce no detectable energy. Fusions and also fissions of atoms occur inside the

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
The ferrosilicon chemistry https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/silicon-monoxide as per its reference as follows: Production of Ferroalloys Rauf Hurman Eric, in Treatise on Process Metallurgy: Industrial

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 11 May 2019 02:18:14 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I don't beleive that the suspension of the CO gas in Fe-Si exists after my >search. Please provide a link to your reference. [snip] It wouldn't be a gas while chemically bound in the solid. It only becomes a gas when

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 11 May 2019 03:31:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A ton of CO2 would fill a modest one story ranch house with a footprint of >1250 sq feet and an average height of 13 feet. > >4.5 tons of CO would require 73,125 cubic feet. How could that volume of >gas be contained

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
A ton of CO2 would fill a modest one story ranch house with a footprint of 1250 sq feet and an average height of 13 feet. 4.5 tons of CO would require 73,125 cubic feet. How could that volume of gas be contained inside 24.5 tons of Fe-Si. On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 3:05 AM Axil Axil wrote: > I

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
I found the ferrosilicon reaction description. scan on ferrosilicon for placement in the article. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/silicon-monoxide On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 2:18 AM Axil Axil wrote: > I could only find the Carbon-Iron-Silicon Ternary Alloy Phase Diagram > (based

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
I could only find the Carbon-Iron-Silicon Ternary Alloy Phase Diagram (based on 2008 Shaposhnikov N.G.) *Diagram Type:* ternary, vertical section *Concentration range:* partial composition; Fe97Si3-C0.08Fe96.92Si3 *Temperature:* 200.0 - 1100.0 °C *Nature of investigation:* calculated

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 11 May 2019 00:00:13 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Fe-Si is used to produce cast iron as a purifying agent. Fe-Si is used to >remove carbon from the cast iron melt. If the Fe-Si were contaminated with >high levels of carbon, then the carbon would render the cast iron

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
Fe-Si is used to produce cast iron as a purifying agent. Fe-Si is used to remove carbon from the cast iron melt. If the Fe-Si were contaminated with high levels of carbon, then the carbon would render the cast iron out of spec.The final product produced by the customer of the smelter would be

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 May 2019 22:17:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The smelter is selling the output material by weight. If there was a huge >weight reduction of 25% over time due to the escape of CO from the output >material when that material was in inventory, then this weight

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
The smelter is selling the output material by weight. If there was a huge weight reduction of 25% over time due to the escape of CO from the output material when that material was in inventory, then this weight reduction would surely show up in the accounting records of the company. On Fri, May

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 May 2019 21:43:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] >But chemical analysis of the output materiel showed that the CO was* not * >chemically >bound to at least one of those elements. Oh really, where does it say this? Note that this statement is NOT the same thing as

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
But chemical analysis of the output materiel showed that the CO was* not * chemically bound to at least one of those elements. In addition, the amount of this CO contamination would need to be 4.25 ton/day. That is 25% of the total output product. That amount of contamination is not possible to

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 May 2019 19:55:16 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The smelting charging function is computer automated and it must have been >checked many times when the anomaly in the amount of output produce was >first recognized. > >"The screened raw materials were taken using a

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
The smelting charging function is computer automated and it must have been checked many times when the anomaly in the amount of output produce was first recognized. "The screened raw materials were taken using a conveyer system to the third floor of the furnace and stored in separate over head

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 May 2019 18:00:18 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The net increase in silicon from the input feed is 18%, The net increase in >iron form the input feed is 28.4%. These increases in the output product >are so large that such increases cannot be mistaken for CO being

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
The net increase in silicon from the input feed is 18%, The net increase in iron form the input feed is 28.4%. These increases in the output product are so large that such increases cannot be mistaken for CO being chemically bound as a trace contaminant either on a short term or long term

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 May 2019 02:20:24 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The CO that was not transmuted to Si and Fe is burned as CO2 and vented >then scrubbed. Neither C nor O combined chemically with Fe–Si as per >chemical analysis. But carbon was thought to transmute to Si and Fe as per

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-10 Thread Axil Axil
"The whole process is slagless and the only product is molten Fe–Si alloy drained from the bottom and carbon monoxide (CO) effluent gas which burns at the top of the furnace, combining with the atmospheric oxygen to become CO2 which is released through a stack after scrubbing as per applicable

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 12:14:15 +0200: Hi, [snip] Note that I said "physical inclusion of CO *molecules*". I meant that the actual molecules were included chemically, not through a nuclear process. A chemical reaction would explain all the facts, without a

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
The lack of any additional excess energy is the point of the article. Discussion on page 248 titled: 7. Puzzle of the Missing Nuclear Energy No bomb, no energy, just more iron. Your assumptions about the details of the LENR reaction are not correct. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:14 AM Jürg

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
> This is just a repeat of the original paper. Below the first introductory paper is a more extensive write up beginning on page 245. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:14 AM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Hi > > Please stop to discuss this nonsensical issue. > The original claim would indicate that they

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Hi Please stop to discuss this nonsensical issue. The original claim would indicate that they fired a Giga x Giga ton bomb in their furnace... As we have no reports about a crater the conclusion is clear. Of course 12C + 16O can happen but with no notable mass increase!! Else : >

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 03:41:39 -0400: Hi, [snip] >What is it exactly that I am supposed to find in this reference? > >search on the company name. This is just a repeat of the original paper. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 03:39:46 -0400: Hi, [snip] >But where does all the extra iron come from? There is no extra iron. There is an increase in "weight". That increase is due to included CO. It simply didn't occur to the author of the paper that the extra weight might

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
What is it exactly that I am supposed to find in this reference? search on the company name. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:20 AM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 01:27:00 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >*Ftpm:* > > > > > >*http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedw.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
But where does all the extra iron come from? On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:20 AM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 01:27:00 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >*Ftpm:* > > > > > >*http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedw.pdf >

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 01:27:00 -0400: Hi, [snip] >*Ftpm:* > > >*http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedw.pdf >* What is it exactly that I am supposed to find in this reference? Regards, Robin van

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 8 May 2019 23:34:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] >It was evident >that roughly 20% more metal than could be accounted for from the input feed >was being produced and consequently we have been >obliged to come to the conclusion that anomalous quantities of Si (2.8

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 May 2019 01:27:00 -0400: Hi, [snip] >jumbo bags for export. Each batch of* Fe–Si was individually analyzed >adopting standard procedures prevalent in this* >*industry.* >*Ftpm:* [snip] ...of course. But that changes nothing. If the CO escaped during the

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
More on Silcal Metallurgic Ltd quality control The screened raw materials were taken using a conveyer system to the third floor of the furnace and stored in separate over head bunkers. Each of the three raw materials were weighed according to a computerized batching system and transferred into

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
There was a rigorous chemical based management of the melting process that was claimed to preclude any chemical based effects that would produce increased production of Fe–Si alloy. The key quality control in smelting is the analysis of the product of the smelting. Usually, samples are taking

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 8 May 2019 19:09:40 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Those mass factors were covered in this analysts as follows: > >Quartz (33.4 ton), charcoal (with fixed carbon content of 13.2 >ton) and scrap steel (5.1 ton) while the daily output production of Fe–Si >alloy (73.5%

Re: [Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-08 Thread Axil Axil
Those mass factors were covered in this analysts as follows: Quartz (33.4 ton), charcoal (with fixed carbon content of 13.2 ton) and scrap steel (5.1 ton) while the daily output production of Fe–Si alloy (73.5% Si) was 24.75 ton. From the total weights of Si and Fe in the input feed and assuming

[Vo]:Re:LENR transmutation may be subject to quantum mechanical superposition.

2019-05-08 Thread mixent
Hi, Re:- http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/244_JCMNS-Vol24.pdf The mass of a CO molecule = 12+16= 28 which matches the mass of Si28. The mass of 2 CO molecules = 56 which matches that of Fe56. Physical inclusion of CO molecules within the Fe-Si matrix could thus explain