Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-10 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: Kyle Mcallister wrote: Vortexians, OK, this is getting a little crazy-go-nuts. 1. Margaret Sanger was responsible for some good, yes. and Ed Storms responded The problem is that some people would be very willing to leave you and people with your belief system alone. However,

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-10 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: thomas malloy wrote: snip Lets start over at the beginning. There are these two super human entities who both want to be G-d, Unfortunately there's only room for one, One's going to toss the other into a black hole, him and all his followers with him. Now this all

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-10 Thread Standing Bear
On Sunday 10 April 2005 18:52, Edmund Storms wrote: thomas malloy wrote: thomas malloy wrote: snip Lets start over at the beginning. There are these two super human entities who both want to be G-d, Unfortunately there's only room for one, One's going to toss the other into a black

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget about the strange looking floating creature hovering next to the cliff that seems to be defying the laws of gravity, the one you can't catch nor eat. Focus on that hungry looking Saber-tooth tiger crouched on top of the cliff. Yeah, THAT ONE! The one that seems to

RE: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Nagel
Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: OT: If I were Pope. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget about the strange looking floating creature hovering next to the cliff that seems to be defying the laws

RE: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Praise Bob and pass the slack!Keith Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Stephen,Uh oh, time for a Hymn,Onward Christian soldiers,Onward Buddhist priests,Onwards, fruits of Islam,Fight 'till you're deceased.Fight your little battles,Join in thickest fray,for the greater glory,of

OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-07 Thread orionworks
From: Stephen A. Lawrence ... Of course. Do not see the fnord. If you see the fnord, the fnord will eat you. You must not see the fnord. Makes you wonder -- are there fnords in the information we find on the Internet, too, or are they restricted to physical media? I can't see them

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Horace Heffner
At 7:56 PM 4/5/5, Harvey Norris wrote: [snip] Find ANY magic cube; if you think it exists. [snip] Hopefully you have seen the article by Eric W Weisstein, Semiperfect Magic Cube, from Mathworld, A Wolfram Resource, http://mathworld.wolfram.com/semiperfectmagiccube.html Regards, Horace

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Ah! The answer really *is* 42! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_EverythingHorace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully you have seen the article by Eric W Weisstein, "Semiperfect MagicCube," from Mathworld, A Wolfram

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
You've put up a fabulous series of posts on several topics in the last week or two, Jed. Thanks. Jed Rothwell wrote: Regarding the central tenet of religion, the existence of God, I have not studied this in any depth, but as far as I can tell, arguments for the existence of God are logical

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: This actually has been studied, but I can't give the reference off hand. In every generation some number of people experience theophanies; IIRC the number amounts to a few percent of the population. Whether you, personally, accept such experiences as being really

RE: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Keith Nagel
Michael Palin writes: There are Jews in the world, there are Buddists, There are Hindus and Mormons and then There are those that follow Mohammad, but I've never been one of them. I'm a Roman Catholic, And have been since before I was born, And the one thing they say about Catholics is They'll

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread orionworks
From: Jed Rothwell ... It is quite rational, but the conclusion you reach depends upon your preconceptions, background, training and expectations. In my mother's case she integrated it into her pre-existing picture of reality and concluded it must be a clinical problem rather than a

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Terry Blanton
Well, if my cat is any indication, they're real. She chases things I can't see frequently![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if what my mother was seeing really existed or not. Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if what my mother was seeing really existed or not. Doesn't really matter. However, the fact that western influenced scientific rationale would simply proclaim that my mother was experiencing nothing more than a hallucination is, in my view, a cop out.

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Edmund Storms
Like in science, the conclusion one reaches depends on the assumptions made at the beginning. The beliefs of each religion and the rules supposed to be God-given suffer from this same limitation. In this article the author makes the argument that the rules of the Catholic Church, i.e. no

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Grimer wrote: But the most effective weapon against the disease has not been the Aids lobby's 20-year promotion of condom culture in Africa, but Uganda's campaign to change behaviour and to emphasise abstinence and fidelity - i.e., the Pope's position. I know nothing about religion, but I know

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: How many more people must suck the resources out of the earth before the Church changes its policy? I suggest that even science can not mediate the damage if population grows at a sufficiently rapid rate. Some of the ecological damage from overpopulation is permanent.

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Vortexians, OK, this is getting a little crazy-go-nuts. 1. Margaret Sanger was responsible for some good, yes. She was also crazy. Not the kind of person I would want to spend much time with. Very pro-eugenics. If you support that, then congratulations, go build yourself a private Gattaca. Leave

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Edmund Storms
Kyle Mcallister wrote: Vortexians, OK, this is getting a little crazy-go-nuts. 1. Margaret Sanger was responsible for some good, yes. She was also crazy. Not the kind of person I would want to spend much time with. Very pro-eugenics. If you support that, then congratulations, go build yourself a

Re: OT: If I were Pope.

2005-04-05 Thread Harvey Norris
--- Kyle Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vortexians, 5. Are you guys actually reading this? I don't get many replies GOD comes from the inside out; not the outside in. Exoteric politics resides with the misidentification of the spirit with the body. We are not the body. If you