[Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread pca
For what it's worth, here are some more speculations on the Rossi-Defkalion break-up. It explains why the break-up was originated by Rossi, and why Defkalion failed to resolve the dispute. I would suggest that Rossi realized that Defkalion's approach would not let him protect his industrial

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Rich Murray
Yeah, there's no excess heat, and so no catalyst... nothing going on but increasingly desperate hot air... within mutual service, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com 505-819-7388 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:26 PM, pca pierre.carbonne...@gmail.com wrote: While this would explain much, I'm still

[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 468

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear Friends, A new proof that interesting and important things still happen in the World. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/informavores-sunday-no-468.html Because this goes to my New Energy friends, I want to complain that the intelligence test coming from Andrea Rossi has become

[Vo]:LENR discussion at TFAWS 2011

2011-08-14 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, I just learned that LENRs (with emphasis on the WL theory) will be discussed during the Thermal Fluids Analysis Workshop in the next days: http://tfaws.nasa.gov/TFAWS11/Speakers.html Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions for Aerospace Joe Zawodny (NASA-LaRC) In 1989, Pons and

[Vo]:I wrote a poem

2011-08-14 Thread fznidarsic
I want to let you all know October will come and go and there will be nothing to show Frank

Re: [Vo]:I wrote a poem

2011-08-14 Thread Rich Murray
...because it's already so! On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: I want to let you all know October will come and go and there will be nothing to show Frank

Re: [Vo]:I wrote a poem

2011-08-14 Thread fznidarsic
As Kirvit has said We' been mislead Soon even Jed will see it is dead -Original Message- From: Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; michael barron mhbar...@gmail.com; Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com; Rich Murray rmfor...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, Aug 14,

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 468

2011-08-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: My dear Friends, A new proof that interesting and important things still happen in the World. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/informavores-sunday-no-468.html And this could be one:

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 468

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you! I guess that you are thinking about a certain catalyst that is as real as an unicorn. I hope to be able to publish more on this subject soon.on my Blog. I am grateful for any proof that my work- writing the newsletter is not only for my own pleasure and ambition to be well informed.

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 468

2011-08-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! I guess that you are thinking about a certain catalyst that is as real as an unicorn. Yes! Pink and invisible! :-) T attachment: unicorn.jpg

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 468

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Gluck
But a good Unicornometer will show that this one is at least 10 times more invisible than pink. We need a good specialist in such measurements.Calibration best done with steam. Peter On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Peter

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
pca pierre.carbonne...@gmail.com wrote: Deploying one, let alone millions, of Hyperion units in unsecured places gives plenty of opportunity for competitors to acquire the device and reverse engineer its secret. Defkalion's attempts to add security within the Hyperions are not credible.

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: It's much better for Rossi to have licencee(s) build a few large electricity-generating units in well-garded places, and sell the electricity to resellers. The strategy would not work, and it would not be allowed. It would not work because security by obscurity for such a

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Alan Fletcher
Defkalion believes they will be allowed to distribute these things in Europe before the devices have been vetted by nuclear experts worldwide and before there is complete understanding the the reaction. But hasn't Rossi has always said that mini-eCats will be sold in the US in 2012? (Or was

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up -- mail foo

2011-08-14 Thread Alan Fletcher
I'm struggling with my web mailer (zimbra). I couldn't get it it interleave the original mail and comments. My reply: But hasn't Rossi has always said that mini-eCats will be sold in the US in 2012? (Or was it that orders would be taken?). - Original Message - Jed said: Defkalion

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread noone noone
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up pca pierre.carbonne...@gmail.com wrote:   Deploying one, let alone millions, of Hyperion units in unsecured

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread noone noone
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up I wrote:   It's much better for Rossi to have licencee(s) build a few large electricity-generating units in

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Defkalion believes they will be allowed to distribute these things in Europe before the devices have been vetted by nuclear experts worldwide and before there is complete understanding the the reaction. But hasn't Rossi has always said that mini-eCats will

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Governments and Corporations don't have to over rule public opinion,  as long as they can shape public opinion to suit their own interests. (Noam Chomosky's concept of manufactured consent). Also public opinion is often based on prejudice and ignorance and can take decades to change. (Eg.

Fwd: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: Governments and Corporations don't have to over rule public opinion, as long as they can shape public opinion to suit their own interests. (Noam Chomosky's concept of manufactured consent). No one denies that powerful institutions and people with money

Re: [Vo]:Edison's Antigravity Underwear

2011-08-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: What is Eugene Podkletnov doing lately? Interesting that you should ask. This post showed up today on Daniele Passerini's weblog relating Podkletnov to Rossi in a round about way:

Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The Whipmag All-Magnet Motor, saga

2011-08-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Actually the old argument is correct, in concept, but wrong in magnitude. In order to come down in exactly the same spot (assuming a perfectly vertical jump), one would have to maintain the same angular

[Vo]:mars rover makes it 12.5 miles to the next big crater

2011-08-14 Thread fznidarsic
Amazing http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/2685/1N366547351EFFBMJYP0676L0M1.JPG FZ

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Rich Murray
Jed, you are right. On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: pca pierre.carbonne...@gmail.com wrote: Deploying one, let alone millions, of Hyperion units in unsecured places gives plenty of opportunity for competitors to acquire the device and reverse

Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up

2011-08-14 Thread Rich Murray
This year I have warned that any unknown nuclear physics has to be immediately and fully explored, because the world security implications re weaponry for nations, terrorists, and criminals has to be quickly assessed and answered practically and effectively world-wide -- certainly we all have to