Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of replication, and there have been replication attempts, some of which appear to have failed (or, in a recent case, just published in the CMNS journal, there

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
How to build a fusion reactor in your garden shed. Interesting post at: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/robert-godes-of-brillouin-energy-comments-on-lenr-research/ "Jed on April 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm Robert, You state: increase more spillover of atomic

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
I did not know so many methods have been proposed. The Skylon reusable space plane seems like the most practical and low-cost method discussed here. I think a space elevator would ultimately have the lowest cost per ton, and it is the safest and most elegant solution. But it calls for materials

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation -- and on to the future.

2012-04-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:43 PM 4/10/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: On 4/10/2012 4:39 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: Defkalion on their forum gave a similar explanation, talking about the heat caused by H2 breaking before loading and, recombination after degasing... It can't possibly be recombination! Both the power and

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
I think the best deal would be hold the rails by the use of balloons, which would be anchored between high mountains. 2012/4/11 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I did not know so many methods have been proposed. The Skylon reusable space plane seems like the most practical and low-cost

RE: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

2012-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
Mark, To be a bit contrarian: this looks like bad science to me. I think it is part assumption error, and part a relic of cavity super-radiant emission (Dicke-Preparata) by nanotubes, which emission is partially focused on a good blackbody emitter. If fact most of the effect could be

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:40 PM 4/10/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: It's crucial. I know of only one *partial* theory that actually makes quantitative predictions, beyond Preparata's expectation of helium,

RE: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

2012-04-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
The experiments used DC current, which is why the 'remote' heating was unexpected. -m From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:39 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes Inductive heating usually

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: I think the best deal would be hold the rails by the use of balloons, which would be anchored between high mountains. I doubt this would work. Balloons are not stable. They get blown around. They do not stay exactly in position. If the end of the tube moves around even a

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Daniel Rocha
There would be hundreds of balloons along the rail. They also could work as power collectors to the train, solar power. As for the stability, I really doubt that fixed structures would be a better solution. Something so long would accumulate vibrations from too many sources and it would hardly be

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Harry Veeder
I was under the impression the research done by Iwamura et al was among the most convincing in the LENR field! harry On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Iwamura's results

[Vo]:It's only chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
The most interesting distinction in all of physics comes into focus with Ni-H, assuming that it is NOT a nuclear reaction (as normally understood). There is no proof that Ni-H is primarily nuclear, and many indications that it is not, and there are also indications that there is some secondary

Re: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

2012-04-11 Thread David Roberson
Inductive heating is caused by magnetic coupling between the source current and the load or heated item. Resistive heating is due to the current actually flowing from the source through the load and does not require magnetic coupling. The thought process mentioned in my last sentence

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I think that the biggest problem with Space Elevator is that it is too slow. I takes quite a lot of time to climb into geosynchronous orbit. It is better to get into LEO as fast as possible. I think that fast climbing is too demanding for the materials and slow is just too slow in order to get

Re: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

2012-04-11 Thread Jojo Jaro
I don't believe Inductive Heating only occurs in AC, as in Alternating. The current does not have to be alternating as in reversing directions periodically. All that is require is a time varying current, which could be Direct current, as long as it is varyinng. The important thing is the

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: I think that the biggest problem with Space Elevator is that it is too slow. I takes quite a lot of time to climb into geosynchronous orbit. Edwards and Westling (p. 49) say the first generation climbers should go 200 km/h. They have to go 100,000

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
  Von:Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 17:24 Mittwoch, 11.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation I'm not concerned with the official record, per se. However,

Re: [Vo]:It's only chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jones: The most interesting distinction in all of physics comes into focus with Ni-H, assuming that it is NOT a nuclear reaction (as normally understood). There is no proof that Ni-H is primarily nuclear, and many indications that it is not, and there are also indications that there is

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Vorl Bek
That does not seem to be issue. EW do not mention it. The only materials issue is space junk poking holes in the ribbons. Space junk has to be cleaned up, and it could be with a multi-ribbon space elevator. You would have to devote one ribbon to an interceptor craft for several months. How

[Vo]:It\'s \only\ chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread Jojo Jaro
Forgive my simplistic understanding, but based on this hypothesis, all one needs to do is Ionize a bunch of Atomic Hydrogen and set them on a collison course with each other; and each collision should produce an excess energy, correct?? If so, then all one needs is to make sure you have a lot

RE: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I recall two other configurations for space elevators other than a straight cable from equator to 2xGeoSynchronous orbit, one is a giant hoop rotating such that at the surface of Earth, it's almost stationary so you can hitch a ride, actual speed would be about 1000 miles/hour around the hoop; the

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: How do you stop meteorites from hitting the ribbons? You cannot stop them. See EW section 10.2. You have to make the ribbon survive the impact with a hole. In other words, you have to make it stronger than needed for the weight of the climber, and shaped

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
The very first or pilot ribbon would be only 2 cm wide in the atmosphere to reduce wind impact, 5 cm in space, and 10 cm in danger zone from space junk. 1 micron thick throughout. So a 1 cm hole would be a serious problem. The first 230 climbers would carry only additional ribbon, which is

RE: [Vo]:It\'s \only\ chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jojo Jaro Forgive my simplistic understanding, but based on this hypothesis, all one needs to do is Ionize a bunch of Atomic Hydrogen and set them on a collison course with each other; and each collision should produce an excess energy, correct?? That has never worked for net

RE: [Vo]:It\\\'s \\\only\\\ chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread Jojo Jaro
Which brings to mind a thread we had here a few months back on a discovery that a 60% copper and 40% nickel alloy was discovered to dissociate Molecular Hydrogen on contact. (Can anybody remember that thread?) If this is so, a lot of energy may be provided by this mechanism and the rest may

RE: [Vo]:It\'s \only\ chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Foster
I wouldn't be too sure about that not working for net gain, Jones.  What Mr. Jaro has proposed is essentially the Langmuir atomic hydogen torch. Many are convinced that the Langmuir torch is over-unity. However, I think it's obvious that cavity containment is the way to go.M. --- On Wed,

Re: [Vo]:Remote Joule heating in Carbon nanotubes

2012-04-11 Thread David Roberson
I think we are saying the same thing. I used AC as in alternating current to specify that it must be time changing in comparison to steady flowing DC current. The requirement is that the source current must be changing in time to induce a voltage in nearby conductors. I believe that

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Robert Lynn
Space elevators for earth are probably unworkable, though they could be pretty good for Mars (from Phobos) and maybe for the moon. A space-elevator must climb about 4km, even at 200km/hr that will take more than a week and requires a huge amount of power to be supplied to the climber. That

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

2012-04-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: A space-elevator must climb about 4km, even at 200km/hr that will take more than a week . . . For freight, this is a non-issue. It takes a week or more to ship goods from China to the U.S. but that does not bother anyone. Note that after a

Re: [Vo]:It's only chemistry

2012-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:35:50 -0500: Hi, [snip] I concur that this mass/energy conversion process is probably based on specific distances involved, as you seem to be implying. Trying to chart out the unique nexuses points of where these distances

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of replication, and there have been replication attempts, some of which appear to

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:58 PM 4/11/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Iwamura's

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Finlay MacNab
There are many problems with this paper. The most glaring error is that they heated their sample to 1000C for 10 minutes before measuring. They do this to remove sulphur, which should not be present under tightly controlled conditions (incidentally they claim to explain the presence of

RE: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy presentation

2012-04-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:09 PM 4/11/2012, Finlay MacNab wrote: There are many problems with this paper. The most glaring error is that they heated their sample to 1000C for 10 minutes before measuring. They do this to remove sulphur, which should not be present under tightly controlled conditions