On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
<a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:
> At 01:34 AM 4/11/2012, Eric Walker wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
>> <<mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com>a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:
>>
>> Iwamura's results are certainly interesting and worthy of replication, and
>> there have been replication attempts, some of which appear to have failed
>> (or, in a recent case, just published in the CMNS journal, there was an
>> apparent transmutation product that was identified as being, instead, a
>> molecular ion with similar weight). It's a complicated story that I'm not
>> going to research and write about here.
>>
>>
>> Ah, yes. Â This reminds me of these slides by Apicella and others:
>> <http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ApicellaMmassspectr.pdf>http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ApicellaMmassspectr.pdf.
>> Â A cautionary tale, indeed. Â Thanks for bringing this up. Â Do you have
>> any additional references on this topic, even if you're not following it
>> closely?
>
>
> Well, this is the recent paper:
>
> http://iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol6.pdf
>
> TOF-SIMS Investigation on Nuclear Transmutation from Sr to Mo with Deuterium
> Permeation
> through Multi-layered Pd/CaO
>
> A. Murase, N. Takahashi, S. Hibi, T. Hioki, T. Motohiro and J. Kasagi
>
> Page 34. (PDF page 43.)
>
> Disappointing result, eh?
>
> While the book is not absolutely closed, and if Murase et al have correctly
> analyzed their data, this is a true replication. It confirmed Iwamura's
> actual results (the peak at X-96), but demonstrated artifact with more
> careful measurement and analysis.


It is not an exact replication since they used a different implantation method.

Harry

> Iwamura might come back with a response, but will need to address the
> specific possible artifact.
>
> We are seeing here one of the dangers of single-result experimentation. The
> most solid cold fusion work has been work that measured both excess heat and
> helium, and that showed correlation over many cells. So each experiment
> produces two results: anomalous heat and anomalous helium. There is little
> reason why an artifact with one would produce a matching artifact with the
> other!
>
> (yes, you can imagine that a hot cell might leak more, which ignores the
> fact that, first of all, one of the research groups (McKubre) was using
> isothermal calorimetry, so the cell was maintained at a constant
> temperature, whether there was anomalous power or not. And then another
> (Italian, ah, this memory is a bit spotty, Krivit tried to impeach this work
> and didn't have a clue about what they had actually done) did not exclude
> ambient helium, so they were only measuring elevation above ambient). And
> isn't it amazing that somehow the leakage would allow *just the right amount
> of helium*, out of a wide range of possibilities? No, heat/helium, once
> demonstrated and replicated, should have damn near ended the controversy.
> Miles was 1993. Just to show how long the silly charade went on. Miles did
> not demonstrate the mechanism, though Preparata got a few points for
> predicting the helium. But, from Miles, confirmed by more accurate
> measurements later, it's fusion. Get over it.)
>
> (If W-L theory were more plausible, I'd consider allowing that neutron
> induced transmutation, even if it takes deuterium and makes neutrons from
> it, and leaves behind helium, is not *exactly* a fusion mechanism. But it's
> not plausible, given the utter lack of experimental confirmation and the
> multiple miracles it requires.)

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