Re: [Vo]:ICIN-G

2017-01-04 Thread Brian Ahern
I would like to add some brain dribble to this issue. In solid matter the nuclei exist in a lattice and undergo oscillations. Adding heat increases the frequency and amplitude of these motions. At absolute zero these oscillations continue as a zero oscillation condition is prohibited by the

[Vo]:Fw: [teslafy] 127% efficiency shown on xenon-krypton discharges.

2017-01-04 Thread Harvey Norris
 Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:15 PM, "harv...@yahoo.com [teslafy]" wrote:   Comments added to Stabilized Xenon- Krypton Discharges What was not noted in

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: I think the real concern for weaponization is not the first thought > everyone jumps to, which is explosive magnifier. > In addition to the possibilities that have been mentioned, there is another that comes to mind

Re: [Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread Brian Ahern
LENR folks are giving way too much adulation to: Andrea Rossi Randall Mills Robert Godes All three have succeeded with no independent data. They all refuse simple obvious testing. Mills is perhaps the biggest show of all. His SunCell has never been tested. It would be child's play to hook

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
Russ George wrote: Whoa indeed, nanoseconds are way to slow for fission! So what? Who needs fission when you can achieve complete nuclear disintegration - as Holmlid claims to do with a small laser. With fission of U, the energy release per nucleon is in the range of 200MeV. With laser

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
The detonation of a fission device includes the compression of the pit to 1/3 of its original volume. This compression is done using systemic explosives shockwaves. There is also neutron reflectors/amplifiers involved to keep neutrons inside the pit. In LENR, by their very nature, the lack of

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: > In addition to the possibilities that have been mentioned, there is > another that comes to mind should at some point LENR be harnessed as a > practical source of energy. Consider small, quiet drones the size of > hummingbirds, which are able to

RE: [Vo]:ICIN-G

2017-01-04 Thread bobcook39923
The concept of temperature is a classical physics concept as far as I know. This reflects my own brain dribbles. I try to avoid brain dribbles about zero-point energy being the result of Heisenberg’s brain dribbles spun as principle. Bob Cook From: Brian Ahern Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
The explosive potential of the cold fusion reaction is centered on the percentage of energy that is produce by the LENR reaction in the various energy releases format. By energy formats I mean the place where the output energy goes such as sub atomic particle production, heat, light, and/or RF.

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edward Teller! For goodness sake. - Jed

[Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
This is not a repeat of the suggestion that dense hydrogen is the same species as "dark matter" ... but there is a good case for that proposition. It is about "dark" as in evil. If there is a foreseeable downside to LENR, it is the possibility of weaponization. Not just that - it is the easy

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > In the past, observers of the LENR scene - who delve into almost every > remote possibility for anomalous energy - have not wanted to talk about the > possibility of a cold-fusion bomb. People have talked about this from time to time, albeit

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Chris Zell
It is said he had a stroke and awoke in a hospital. A nurse asked, “Are you the famous Dr. Edward Teller?” He said, “No…….I am the infamous Dr. Edward Teller”. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 11:01 AM To: Vortex Subject:

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Bob Higgins
I brought up the issue of weaponization of LENR in the panel session at ILENR-12. The general consensus was, "the cat is out of the bag"; I.E. too late for that concern. I think the real concern for weaponization is not the first thought everyone jumps to, which is explosive magnifier. For

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Russ George
Conflating nuclear chain reaction energy release with cold fusion mechanisms is what leads to silly speculation, aka trolling, over weaponization of cold fusion. It is the far reaching neutron chain reaction process that is common to fission/fusion weapons that makes them so potent. In cold fusion

RE: [Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread bobcook39923
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf This report addresses Higgins comment regarding the #1 issue. It would appear neutrons are not involved in the LENR reactions reported using Ti foils. See the discussion on page 7&8 of the report. Russ- That was a good find. Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Russ George wrote: Conflating nuclear chain reaction energy release with cold fusion > mechanisms is what leads to silly speculation, aka trolling, over > weaponization of cold fusion. It is the far reaching neutron chain reaction > process that is common to fission/fusion

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread bobcook39923
Higgins— If neutrons are involved in making fissile isotopes, I would imagine that it may be tough to keep the newly created fissile material from fissionning right after its creation. I can imagine metastable isomers having a role. Bob From: Bob Higgins Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017

[Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
As the SunCell R moves forward over the coming months, certain hard to understand problems will develop in that effort that will show that the SunCell is really a LENR based system. As a foreshadowing of these development problems, I will make a prediction about how the SunCell works as a LENR

RE: [Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread Russ George
Axil, The titanium experiment you suggest has been done, by me, while Ti is a useful cold fusion material it has a far lower NAE cross-section and while this is useful in limiting thermal destruction it works against the vitality of the technology. Lots of work required down that trail. I am

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread bobcook39923
I can guess a large coherent—QM entangled—system could host a large reaction throughout that system, but not beyond it boundaries. Beyond the initial coherent system would have to be other coherent systems which would require resonant conditions, possibly provided by the thermal pulse or

[Vo]:LENR INFO

2017-01-04 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/01/jan-04-2017-lenr-info.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Jones Beene
Whoa - an observer must possess a great deal of blind hope to imagine that weaponization of LENR is impossible simply because neutrons are lacking. In fact, dense hydrogen is physically similar to the neutron. Most importantly, the number of documented runaway LENR reactions makes the

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Russ George
Whoa indeed, nanoseconds are way to slow for fission! From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 1:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen Whoa - an observer must possess a great deal of blind hope to imagine

Re: [Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
If you patented your work, you may has a prior art claim on your technology over Mills. Transmutation occurring in your system will show that you have the goods in terms of theory(LENR) as opposed to Mills(hydrino) with no transmutation theoretical basis. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Russ

Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
The real problem with LENR is the LENR reaction's preference for the even isotopes U238, U232 of the odd isotopes. That make LENR a transuranic element enrichment risk. >From my reference: " It was found that the activity of both U isotopes decreased with respect to that of Cs. However, the

RE: [Vo]:The SunCell is a LENR system

2017-01-04 Thread Russ George
Most assuredly definitive Ag transmutation isotope shift data is in hand, no dispute possible in that! One path is clearly the insertion of a deuteron into some relatively high Z nuclei. Surely that has a coherent pathway. As for prior art (rigged patent system nonsense) there is more than one

RE: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen

2017-01-04 Thread Russ George
Cold fusion is a piss poor cousin in the enrichment game with fissionable species to paths with abundant neutrons. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 1:55 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen The real problem with