Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Adrian Ashfield
That was what I wrote about in my last post but for some reaspn the post has not been published. AA -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, May 25, 2017 10:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356'

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Brian Ahern
An oscilloscope is of negative value. It provides a false reading. From: Adrian Ashfield Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:24 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today That was what I wrote about

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Adrian Ashfield
Thanks. I see my earlier reply now, but it wasn't there earlier. I have no idea why it was used out of context to start a new thread. AA -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 26, 2017 11:46 am Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Measuring Spin

2017-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
Nigel Dyer wrote: I have been musing about spin and Leonard Susskinds lectures and books have got me thinking in a slightly different way: There is very much LENR related, but I will start with a 'simple' question In the Stern Gerlach experiment the act of 'measuring' the spin of the

Re: [Vo]:Measuring Spin

2017-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
I touched on the idea back in '07 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg16952.html As I recall, someone objected to the use of 'evaporate' when applied to Dirac's sea. :-)

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Adrian Ashfield wrote: That was what I wrote about in my last post but for some reaspn the post > has not been published. I saw your suggestion afterwards. I think it somehow started a new thread rather than remaining in this one. Eric

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356 reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Bob Higgins
I was only working from data I extracted from the plots. It may prove to be a little better when the raw data itself is analyzed. The first 10 minutes would not necessarily be better because the heater was being driven with more power. It may measure more accurately because the water was closer

[Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356 reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Bob Higgins
The first MFMP test of the Me356 reactor was a steam sparge test that was asked for by Jed Rothwell. The reactor's output steam+entrained water were cooled in a bucket of water and discharged into the bucket. By measuring the temperature rise of the water vs. time, the output power (heat) could

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356 reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins wrote: The first 10 minutes would not necessarily be better because the heater was > being driven with more power. It may measure more accurately because the > water was closer to room temp. > That's what I meant. Better calorimetry. More adiabatic. Maybe

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356 reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins wrote: > Calculated values for COP from the data graphs during this sparge test > varied from 0.5-0.7 depending on the span of time taken. > That is a low recovery rate. I think because the bucket was small and they ran the test for a long time, letting

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356 reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
As of now, this is looking worse than an objective observer would have predicted from the circumstances. I agree with Jed that just by letting these people in the door, me356 has enhanced his credibility... possibly less than being an early Porsche owner but at least he is open to scrutiny.

Re: [Vo]: MFMP starting to test me356' reactor today

2017-05-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
measuring the RF ambiance with an oscilloscope can raise red flags. imprecise indirect measurement are often good cross check Nothing is fool proof individually but if the testers improve their tests and cross check with simple measurement (like kill-a-watt at the socket, electricity bill,