[Vo]:[Vo] : eCat Power Limitations

2011-06-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
Assuming the eCat is not a scam: The Defkalion press conference video indeed says that the eCat power is limited by pressure. We know that the reaction chamber is controlled by - quantity of nickel powder, presence of hydrogen, and requires a sufficient heat to ignite the reaction. Saying that

RE: [Vo]:UFOs Over London

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/knowledge/posts.php?thread=13183 London artists Jamie King (feat. Sway) released an album in June called This is the Life: Release date - 12/06/11 Now, whether the video was just an advertising scheme is the question. The date format question is moot. Date: Mon,

[Vo]:First Photo of Mass-Produced e-Cats?

2011-07-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
I listened to EVWorld's interview with Andrea Rossi: http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2004 What I hadn't noticed is that on the table behind them is an array of what look to be Good-and-Proper e-Cats. I don't know if this is an old photo that already made its rounds, but I found

RE: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
This is all conjecture, but I thought that it may be a fun exercise. IF Defkalion's statements are true (that's a big IF): Defkalion is running ahead of Rossi on this. In one of the post-press-announcement interviews, Defkalion's rep is asked if Rossi is building e-Cats for their 1 MW plant.

RE: [Vo]:They say liquid water can't be hotter than boiling...

2011-07-15 Thread Robert Leguillon
Never tried the superheating water in china. I would assume that it's the lack of nucleation sites on the smooth china. Pure water can be driven well outside of normal phase-change temperatures when there's a lack of nucleation sites. The tea bag or sugar cube would merely serve as a place

RE: [Vo]:How can we make sure that 1MW e-cat is true?

2011-07-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
I would expect that the 1MW demo will not involve a phase-change in the calorimetry. With Defkalion's statements as to alternate coolants being used into a heat-exchanger, and combination heat-and-power models, the questionable Rossi tests will hopefully be rendered obsolete. This is presuming

RE: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
[snip] However, we know that Rossi is, shall we say, enthusiastic, and not terribly careful about what he says. The 18-hour test allegedly showed a transient temperature phenomenon that has been interpreted as 120 kW. Just for starters, that might be explained, for example, by some scale

RE: [Vo]:E-Cat open source replication

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
Good degassing references can be found in the Stremmenos interview on the 22Passi Blog: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/05/stremmenos-cold-fusion-will-solve.html?m=1 Also, references can be seen in Brian Ahern's replication efforts. Stremmenos observes that the oxidization coating the nano

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
Jed, Agreed. The 18 hour test, assuming the observations we are given are fact, would be conclusive. I made the comment about someone flushing the toilet to demonstrate that some of the momentary power spikes could be caused by correlating drops in water pressure. There was no continuous

RE: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

2011-07-19 Thread Robert Leguillon
So not only is very wet steam with 95% liquid by mass possible, but there are ways to measure it accurately. Not with an RH probe, though.

RE: [Vo]:New Sergio Focardi interview

2011-07-22 Thread Robert Leguillon
http://evworld.com/press/e-cat_cutaway.jpg Two heaters. The internal heater makes sense for bringing up the Ni-H to operating temperatures (and, presumably, keep it there). It's the purpose of the external heater that's puzzling. Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:06:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:New

RE: [Vo]:Fw: New Energy Times #37 and Rossi Report #3

2011-07-31 Thread Robert Leguillon
I must ask, Jed... What is your take on this? Specifically, the NASA calculations: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/3714appendixelectriconly.shtml And Summary: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/NASA/18.jpg I don't think that Curiosity Killed The E-Cat, but I'm finding in much

Re: [Vo]:Batteries for energy storage on the grid

2011-08-31 Thread Robert Leguillon
That 1.21 Gigawatt drop in production could correspond to some kind of a flux capacitor being attached to the grid. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See:

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
If the E-Cat is going to truly be analyzed as black box, we need all inputs and outputs. Obviously, a thermometer stuck inside the E-Cat, when we don't know the pressure, physical construction, etc., does nobody any good. (Hell, we don't even know if it's in water, or what type of thermal

RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Robert Leguillon
My Two Cents-- I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the effect of electromagnetism on conductive heating. I thought that I'd throw out a few questions regarding the observations of the 4th paper, hoping to learn: Background for the questions: Alternating current (dependent on the

RE: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Robert Leguillon
Okay.. Two More Cents: Just for clarification, references to the skin effect were made as an effort to explain the temperature difference without a magical violation of CoE. I was proposing a circumstance where misinterpretation of observations are the root cause of the apparent power.

RE: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
My two cents: As was previously theorized, Rossi may have really been onto something. Unfortunately, when the reaction occurs, it is difficult to keep stable; it runs away and needs to be quenched. If you recall, the Defkalion rumors centered around a nonpayment from Defkalion until Rossi

RE: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo

2011-10-05 Thread Robert Leguillon
My Two Cents: I really hate to go on the record with predictions, but why not just for fun? FWIW, I really, really hope that I am wrong. Predictions: 1) This test has the potential to be quite conclusive. It won't be. 2) It will take a LONG time for the e-Cat to come up to temperature.

RE: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo

2011-10-05 Thread Robert Leguillon
Again, FWIW, I hope to God this is a conclusive test. As this argument is already raising eyebrows, let me go back to the original predictions that are raising a fuss: 4) Power gains will be relatively small and will be reliant on calculations using a no input value during the

RE: [Vo]:Uppsala + Bologna Universities present

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
I was running on the assumption that she was next door at Rossi Brothers' Tires, getting new tires for her Alfa Romeo. A scientific journalist, on the other hand, is an even better back-story. I'm calling her E-Kitten. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:57:19 +0200 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Uppsala +

RE: [Vo]:July 7th E-Cat test report

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
Is there a long report for July 7th? I've noticed that the times on the graph do not match Bianchini's report at all. It appears that the graph may have been clipped during its stability phase. If it had leveled for a long period (during phase change) and then rose again, that would be

RE: [Vo]:July 7th E-Cat test report

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
7th E-Cat test report From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: We can only hope and pray that there is more power observed on the secondary than is supplied to the primary during peak energy application. If gains are only observed

RE: [Vo]:Stop fretting about stored heat!

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
Leguillon seems to have notion that heat originally stored as the water is warmed up somehow vanishes and is never accounted for. That is not how a calorimeter works. Rothwell seems to like putting words into my mouth. If the ENTIRE energy balance is looked at, it will obviously

Re: [Vo]:New tidbits regarding Rossi's NASA tests

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
1 MW is used as a measure of power transfer. The velocity of steam, through a given opening, produced by 1 MW cannot be calculated; too few required variables are populated. You would have to know beginning and ending temperatures, to calculate required water or steam. If you start with 1

Re: [Vo]:No, it would not be a small local heater, and no you cannot hide it

2011-10-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
Jed, Now, let me stress that I do not think that there was a hidden heater, but you're missing the point. The argument was not for a hidden 5 kW heater. It was for a small heater near the thermistor (or temperature probe). This small heater would not have to be of a kW order. It would only

RE: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
My Two Cents: Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. Most of the previous experimental problems were solved in this setup. We could've seen measurable, stable, power gains completely unaffected by phase-change or water overflow. We should have been presented with an operating E-Cat producing 6 or more

RE: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
on October 6th test From: cchayniepub...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:21:18 -0400 On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 09:01 -0500, Robert Leguillon wrote: My Two Cents: Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. Most of the previous experimental problems were solved in this setup. We

Re: [Vo]:There are two heat exchangers

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
So, you will go on the record? The demonstrations have proven excess heat? This is irrefutable? Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: If he has drained the water from the primary circuit he has wasted energy. He said in august or september,

[Vo]:New E-Cat Music Video

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu_iwdjf1gI It's a laugh for the Rossi-FanBoys.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct 2011 Spreadsheet without 0.8°C bias

2011-10-08 Thread Robert Leguillon
Do we know how they measured the temperature at the output of the primary? The temperature variations at the secondary look very suspicious (not following rhyme-nor-reason, and taken too infrequently to track trends). Those measured temperatures of condensed steam, at the output of the primary,

Re: [Vo]:Re: July 7th E-Cat test report

2011-10-08 Thread Robert Leguillon
I think the reason for easy confusion is that kWh is not a term that the lay person normally deals with. 1 KWh, or 1 kilowatt-hour, does not indicate 1 kilowatt per hour, but represents 1 kilowatt over a span of 1 hour. Hence, 500 watts for two hours = 1 kWh. The layperson inherently links kWh

Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct 2011 Spreadsheet without 0.8°C bias

2011-10-08 Thread Robert Leguillon
), thermocouple inserted INSIDE E-Cat) T3 : Primary circuit INPUT (from peristaltic pump) When Mats Lewan took measurements of the steam condensate at the end of the test, I assume he used his own temperature sensor... -m -Original Message- From: Robert Leguillon

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting

2011-10-08 Thread Robert Leguillon
I saw it in the video, but this JPEG makes it even more obvious. Thanks for the upload. You've got 120+ degrees (allegedly) on one side, and a couple inches away less than 30 degrees. A few degrees of heat transfer is lauded as conclusive, irrefutable evidence of a multi-kilowatt cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-09 Thread Robert Leguillon
Jed, I hate to ask, really. You seem to be impressed by that graph. If you look closely at the Ny Teknik results, the output at the heat exchanger doesn't seem to track the logged E-Cat temperatures in any meaningful way. A quick example is between 19:03 and 19:22: In that time frame, E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-09 Thread Robert Leguillon
contents of the E-Cat would take 2-4 hours to be completely replaced. All the while, a device that generates frequencies is still running. When it is turned off, the E-Cat temp begins declining. S many questions. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-09 Thread Robert Leguillon
. But, of course, this didn't happen, did it? Hmmm. If my numbers are off, I apologize. I didn't recheck. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a decent water capacity for the E-Cat? I see that H.H. calculated 14.2 liters

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
will see this is irrefutable proof From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: The rapid overfilling was at .91 grams/second (It turns out the 1.92 g/s was for quenching) The rapid overfill I refer to is the quenching, at 1.92 g

[Vo]:Let's revisit the October 6th Predictions...

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Predictions: 1) This test has the potential to be quite conclusive. It won't be. *Check 2) It will take a LONG time for the e-Cat to come up to temperature. Only after it's stable, Rossi will begin circulating water in the secondary, and the e-Cat temperature will drop a little, and

RE: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
If someone Couldn't care less, it means that they care so little that it's impossible for them to care any less than they do right now. If someone Could care less, it means that they care enough that it's possible to care less. Irregardless, people will continue to use the phrase to the

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Look closer at this one: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/RossiT2Pout.png Let me give you a scenario. There is some back pressure on the E-Cat, so boiling temperature rises as high as 124 degrees. Note: This is in the believer's favor. If atmospheric pressure is lower, then the boiling

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
The double flow was recorded after they began trying to quench the reaction. Increasing the flow rate was specifically mentioned before that second measurement, and everyone previously lauded the pump for it's accuracy during previous demonstrations. Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Let's now take this to its logical conclusion. At a primary flow rate of .91 g/s, the evidence makes it look as though the average power (including the power applied by the band heater) over the entire span, could not have been over 2.5 kW. Anything higher would have resulted in higher E-Cat

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
Jed, Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping. If you think that this is impossible, I have an experiment for you. Make a scalding hot 1/2 cup of coffee. Put it into a Thermos. See how long it takes to

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
long does the water continue to boil? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Jed, Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping. If you think

Re: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
: 15kg/h here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=20#comment-94236 Colin On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Let's now take this to its logical conclusion. At a primary flow

RE: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat Pour some boiling water into a thermos. For how long does the water continue to boil? Harry On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Jed, Don't

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
The data from the September test is great, in this aspect. They did it right. They were filling the E-Cat from a reservoir, and after it was boiling, they gave us the net weight of water in the input reservoir at 21:07, then logged every time water was added, and provided us a final weight.

RE: [Vo]:Rossi heat exchanger fitting / SOME flow data

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
I forgot to mention. In the September test, before the pump was hooked up, they measure 15.8 kg/hr (4.38g/s) consumption. Once connected to the E-Cat, it dropped to 13.76 kg/hr (3.8g/s), then at boiling, it dropped to 11.08 kg/hr (3.07g/s). This is just to demonstrate that the pump does not

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
:35 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote: If someone Couldn't care less, it means that they care so little that it's impossible for them to care any less than they do right now. If someone Could care less, it means that they care enough that it's possible to care less. _*Irregardless*_, people

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: fat-cat architecure

2011-10-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
In the September report, they drain the water in the E-Cat through the fill port, and 22,400 grams are expelled. This seems to be at or near overflowing, based on the collected water; Also, the E-Cat weighed about a kg more than it started at (this is presumably water retained below the level

RE: [Vo]:Primary loop inflow stable, outflow varies! The two readings agree.

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
Facepalm. The inflow rate is NOT well regulated, nor is it 15 l/h. It was very, very well measured in the September test, and we can learn a lot from it. In the September test, before the pump was hooked up, they measure 15.8 kg/hr (4.38g/s) consumption. Once connected to the E-Cat, it

RE: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
I do not think Rossi was lying about dry steam. He says he does not know much about how to measure steam quality. He assumed that Galantini knew what he was doing. I still do assume that. Many people here have been yelling about this but experts I have heard from say it was dry. The wet

[Vo]:OT: Pendulum Waves

2011-10-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ It's probably been shared before, but it's making the rounds again: Pendulums of varied lengths create some very entertaining wave effects.

RE: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
In this case, the skeptics are ignoring the fact that the heat increased during heat after death, instead of declining according to Newton's law. This proves they are wrong. I have not seen a response from any of them trying to explain this fact. Steve Krivit was so anxious to gloss

Re: [Vo]:Columbus blamed for Little Ice Age

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
“There’s nothing else happening in the rest of the world at this time, in terms of human land use, that could explain this rapid carbon uptake,” says Jed Kaplan, an earth systems scientist at the Federal Polytechnic School of Lausanne in Switzerland. Note the phrase in terms of human land use.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Clearvoyance

2011-10-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
Take any two digit number, subtract the sum of the individual digits, and the result is a multiple of 9. All of the multiples of 9 correspond to the same symbol in the table, and Bob's your uncle. Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 16.10.2011 16:36, schrieb Peter Gluck: Peter,

RE: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
The skeptical, conservative position is to believe in conventional physics and to trust that laboratory grade instruments have worked correctly in thousands of experiments (including this one) and therefore cold fusion must be real. Am I to understand that even the most pragmatic skepticism

RE: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
Obviously, you have come to your conclusions. I have found this test inconclusive. You may disagree, and now be 100% convinced, but it's your personal attacks that are troubling. You continue to strike down questions with comments like: Skepics who claim that the temperature

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
Mr. Rothwell never attacked me personally. He merely labeled all remaining skeptics as ignorant/blind/foolish/etc. I think that there is still room to question the results, and I'm certainly not the only one. I think that the ad hominems can stifle open communication, and I thought that they

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this is junior-high level physics, and yes, some of you do not understand it

2011-10-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
personally repaired an anvil, and you heat it slowly to avoid destroying its hardened characteristics - and you cool it overnight packed in vermiculite to allow slow cooling. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr. Rothwell never

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this is junior-high level physics, and yes, some of you do not understand it

2011-10-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
Obviously, you prefer to go after an individual. Then you oversimplify arguments with an 8 gallon pot. I cannot comprehend if you're being facetious, or truly do not understand what we are referring to by stored heat in the core. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon

Re: [Vo]:Yes, this is junior-high level physics, and yes, some of you do not understand it

2011-10-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
in nickel, nickel mining, and short oil. You stifle debate when you minimize arguments as junior-high level physics Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: You have grown tiresome. Leaving an anvil in a forge overnight was merely

Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Leguillon
You are placing a lot of stock on minor variances of the T2 temperature. Have you considered that no energy increase is necessary to increase the T2 probe temperature? It is highly unlikely that the E-Cat is bone dry, and the steam is being superheated. It is much more likely that the

[Vo]:About that Frequency Generator

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Leguillon
Has anyone seen a photo? Does anyone know what make/model? Does anyone know the specific purpose it was serving? Does anyone know how it was hooked into the circuit? Was it electrically connected to the heater? Was it electrically connected to the E-Cat at all? Had anyone heard any reference to

Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Leguillon
. That is where the relatively low temperature at T2 starts to rise most of the way through the test. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess

Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Leguillon
: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 7:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ECAT Measurements Confirm Excess Heat Production It appeared in the water dump at the end of the September video, that the E-Cat ressure was above 1 ATM

RE: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
So, if the steam is recirculating, is there a secondary flow and heat exchanger? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:43:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW. From: ecatbuil...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Per Rossi's blog, the steam is going into a dissapater,

[Vo]:October 28th Test Protocol

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
Has anyone seen any data come through on test protocols? If the water/steam is recirculating, does this mean that the 1MW is entirely closed-loop? Is there NO water being added to the system? How is water flow rate in the primary being measured, if at all? How is temperature in the primary

Re: Fw: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ We will all await further data before issuing judgement, right? /snip/ Anxiously awaiting Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, John Harris jfhar...@dodo.com.au wrote: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:First video from

Re: [Vo]:Lewan and other observers unable to confirm claims

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
This test has been a colossal disappointment. I was hoping for good, reliable, superior calorimetry, and something decisive. When it began, I was concerned about the steam output being recirculated and never actually observed. Any measured output over 100C would be considered complete

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
I don't think the Mafia has written non-disclosure agreements. But when things go wrong, they are known for putting out contracts Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 29.10.2011 19:55, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Area 51? Cosa Nostra? Mafia! ;-) 2011/10/29 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com

Re: [Vo]:Document: Tests to proof the Leonardo 1 MW reactor

2011-10-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
I was assuming RFG was the Radio Frequency Generator Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: What is an RFG? As in: The reactors have been served by a RFG . . . There are some minor corrections to this report coming from Rossi. I will upload a new version later. They are: 1. The weight of

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-03 Thread Robert Leguillon
I know that this post is going to ruffle some feathers, but: He has indeed done stints in jail. He has repeatedly claimed incredible strides in developing rare technology, and has seen things go awry in delivery. Petroldragon appeared totally revolutionary. The telling of this story varies

[Vo]:Defkalion Responds to Questions

2011-11-04 Thread Robert Leguillon
Defkalion responds to a reader re: the possibility of DGT's Hyperions replacing the Fukishima reactors: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=431p=3617#p3617 ___ Could the steam temperature be safely raised to 600 degrees C

Re: [Vo]:Book: Rossi's eCat

2011-11-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
*facepalm* The year 0 P.R. (Post Rossi)? I hope the horse will overtake the cart, and regain it's rightful station. Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.xecnet.com/publish.htm Book blurb: Featured Book Our featured book is John Michell's new book Rossi's eCat - Free

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
The issue of complete vaporization has plagued the E-Cat from the beginning. In the early E-Cats, water was able to run straight out of the E-Cat and down a drain, without ever being collected or sparged. In the 1MW demo, the steam is condensed and fed back in, there is no way of knowing how

Re: [Vo]:Re: A real customer would not have accepted the 1MW plant.

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ If I were to call him ax murderer I suppose you would say I admire his dexterity with tools. /snip/ Brilliant!

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
a good laugh at our expense. If the public report is falsified, then it is a scam, pure and simple. Otherwise, it is real as many expect. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 8:53 pm Subject

Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Leguillon
Rossi's largest contribution to improving on the Piantelli-Focardi work, may have been his suggestion at using nano-nickel. The increased surface area, and available crystalline lattice has been garnering a lot of attention. Variations in particle size and, possibly more importantly, surface

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-08 Thread Robert Leguillon
of the secondary thermocouples bring the results into question Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: The issue of complete vaporization has plagued the E-Cat from the beginning. In the early E-Cats, water was able

RE: [Vo]:NASA officially responds to an FOIA request that Rossi has never proved his claim

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Any idea if anyone has received the entire NASA LENR presentation? I've been checking their website (http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/sensors/PhySen/research.htm) for some time, and it looked promising: Tests conducted at NASA Glenn Research Center in 1989 and elsewhere consistently showed

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ Heffner is saying that since the flow rate may not be 60 L in 4 hours it might be zero. That is preposterous. /snip/ Because the flow rate was not at its max (it was sped up during quenching) and it decreases with back pressure (as demonstrated in the September test), we have no idea

Re: [Vo]:Yes we darn well do know approximately what the flow rate was!

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Maybe I'd overlooked this, when did they measure and film the outpouring water? I thought that it was twice during the entire demo - once while it was running, and once during quenching, no? Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon wrote: /snip/ Heffner is saying

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
Statement only slightly more ridiculous: The most energetic thing that they could put inside is a fission reactor. A fission reactor produces the most energy, because if it didn't, nuclear power stations would use something else. And since we can't fit all of the necessary safety controls in

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

2011-11-10 Thread Robert Leguillon
I apologize. I did not institute my five-minute sarcasm filter. Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Statement only slightly more ridiculous: The most energetic thing that they could put inside is a fission reactor. A fission reactor produces the most energy, because

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ Additionally it has been disclosed that Rossi and NI have been working together for some time as well as the fact that Rossi had 107 modules working in parallel for 5.5 hours and maintained a very good regulation on the heat output. /snip/ Statements from NI do not indicate that they

Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls

2011-11-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
In the PESN postscript, it is quite obvious that NI is distancing itself from any conclusions on authenticity. I added emphasis with the below: PESN Postscript On November 10, 2011 4:39 PM [MST], regarding the above story, I received the following from Trisha McDonell | Corporate PR Manager |

[Vo]:So, Really.. Who would buy a 1MW WildCat?

2011-11-12 Thread Robert Leguillon
If someone wanted to buy the current E-Cat manifestation for anything other than debunking or reverse engineering, what would that look like? (Assuming that the technology is 100% real and has a COP of 6. I'm skeptical, but think this could be a fun intellectual exercise) Current Cats produce

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetical diagram of the Oct. 28th E-Cat

2011-11-13 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ Added valve on connection to jerrican. It indeed seems closed on the Ny Teknik video. I suppose it was opened at some point? /snip/ This is unclear. It is indeed where the 5 L of condensed water was measured. It does appear closed in the video (if it were open, water/steam/both would be

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
This may be pointing to the earlier theory (purely supposition): Rossi really improved Ni-H technology. His reactions were hard to keep stable, so he kept tuning it down to keep it stable. When it was 100% stable, he'd actually turned it off and was only producing reactions that could be

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
Defkalion wasn't obligated to release anything. The pictures do show that they were working on the product, and appeared to have invested more into it than a few pipes and elbows. This news is great, because it lends a lot more credence to their claims that more information will be forthcoming.

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
Completely concur. These are the kind of test environs that I'd expect to see. Also, their technical posts were always at least logical (e.g., experimenting with different coolants for a single-phase primary loop). They always came across as more ready for primetime than Rossi. I'm eagerly

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion, heat from primary energy consumption, and global warming

2011-11-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
I forsee other times when thermal energy is produced to prevent global cooling. There will be global controls to regulate a stable climate, and the most powerful nations will clambor to have the global climate skewed in their regional favor. Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: I can

Re: [Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

2011-11-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
I believe that the water leaks were at the top seal, and would only have come into play when the E-Cat was effectively overflowing. They would not contribute to net energy loss during the proposed heat storage Also, the only measured primary flow before the rate was increased (for quenching)

RE: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.

2011-11-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
Refresh my memory. If I recall correctly: 1) ecat.com had videos from the recent demonstrations, and is now officially affiliated 2) e-cat.com began with the Countdown to October, then it had the We've got Ssssteam Heat video, and then was redirected to Google Green Is that right? Date:

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
If Rossi did use three cores (assuming he didn't before): The energy output may increase, but we'd still still be without any method to acually measure it, because of his calorimetry. The energy consumed would have tripled, too, with a zero-net-gain possibility still on the table. The October

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ Actually, there is no reason to believe that it will require additional input energy to activate the 2 extra cores. He has a COP of 6 when all are used which results in an output of 1558 * 6 = 9348 each ECAT of 107 total. I used the test data to determine that this was entirely in line

RE: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
By reactance, I misspoke, meaning impedance, but you get the point. If each wafer has its own core heater, the input current would have to triple to support three cells. Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:40:24 -0600 Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing From:

Re: [Vo]: ECAT With 3 Cores Would Have Been Convincing

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Leguillon
I believe that he was recommending warming up the E-Cats before most of the reporters show up, with minimal supervision, if their time is too precious. It was not a theory on what may have occurred, merely a suggestion on what could occur to avail a longer (and hence more conclusive) run time.

Re: [Vo]:Gain from the cold side

2011-11-18 Thread Robert Leguillon
Yes. The restriction on ad hominems only applies to skeptics. A Rossi-believer can call you ignorant, blind, lacking in a seventh grade education, unable to understand elementary science, pseudo-skeptic, pathological skeptic, an agent of big oil, LENR-denier, even accuse you of intentionally

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