Re: [Vo]:Rossi responds to "movie professor" and Peter Ekstrom's analysis

More bizarreness. Note that in all the apparent anger over the wetness of the effluent, nobody has stated *any* measurement which was made and which indicated the steam was dry. We've got temperature, we've got pressure (relative to ambient, please note, not even an actual pressure number, so

Re: [Vo]:Rossi responds to "movie professor" and Peter Ekstrom's analysis

On 11-06-29 10:06 AM, Rich Murray wrote: Ad hominem responses are always confirmations that the responder is unable to support his position with evidence and reason... Lack of playful humor is another sign. Abd and Jed have shown this too, in recent days. Nonsense. Please don't make such c

Re: [Vo]:Rossi responds to "movie professor" and Peter Ekstrom's analysis

On 11-06-29 10:23 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Very good response by Andrea. We see that those "movie clowns" have also infiltrated Vortex, like Joshua, Abd and few other pseudoskeptics. So Abd is a "pseudoskeptic" because he questioned the dryness of the steam, and asked if it's possible t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi responds to "movie professor" and Peter Ekstrom's analysis

On 11-07-04 04:47 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Harry Veeder > wrote: Peter Ekstrom's analysis: "the E-Cat does not produce excess Energy". http://www.fysik.org/WebSite/fragelada/resurser/cold_fusion_krivit.pdf Rossi r

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's Carbon Rings of Benzene

On 11-07-11 08:31 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, noone noone wrote: Also, a previous cold fusion researcher used carbon as a catalyst, but did not produce near as much heat as Rossi's system. Here is a link about his work... http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagaz

Re: [Vo]:First Photo of Mass-Produced e-Cats?

On 11-07-12 03:04 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 11:58 AM 7/12/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: There's an audio interview with AR on the right column. He's at home in Miami. No "hard" questions. (Don't mention the Steam quality!) ... the only clarification I got was that the original "factory he

Re: [Vo]:First Photo of Mass-Produced e-Cats?

On 11-07-12 05:36 PM, noone noone wrote: I find nothing strange about this report. So what if he sold the building. He kept the reactor, and has produced hundreds more since then. Defkalion has proceeded to build hundreds more. Defkalion has actually built their own units, tested them, and

[Vo]:Paying the price of the Iraq war?

Looks like there's a good chance the Webb telescope will be scratched: http://www.futura-sciences.com/fr/news/t/astronautique/d/le-futur-telescope-spatial-james-webb-pourrait-etre-abandonne_31339/#xtor=RSS-19 Headline: "The future James Webb space telescope could be abandoned". The rest of th

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

Orionworks wrote: Joshua, I waited in anticipation to see if you could help explain to me the errors I might have made in my reasoning. I was astonished to discover that the jest of your replies struck me as being just as much of a "seat-of-the-pants" explanation as you apparently accuse me of d

[Vo]:They say liquid water can't be hotter than boiling...

So here's a cute experiment, done by accident while on vacation. Take a smooth china mug, and fill it with water. Stir the water, so it's swirling nicely (if you don't do this only the surface will get hot and the experiment probably won't work). Put it in a microwave on high power for a minu

Re: [Vo]:They say liquid water can't be hotter than boiling...

- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:03:11 PM Subject: [Vo]:They say liquid water can't be hotter than boiling... So here's a cute experiment, done by accident while on vacation. Take a smooth china mug, a

Re: [Vo]:European Patent Office observer criticizes Rossi's E-Cat

On 11-07-18 03:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Rossi wrote: I received him to get those suggestions, curious to know about what he had to suggest. I was working in my Bologna lab when I received him and he saw one E-Cat under test for no more that 30 seconds, after which I invited him to exit. H

Re: [Vo]:REMOVED: Damon Craig on vortexB-L only

Thank you, Bill! That was a good move IMO, which should certainly improve the atmosphere here. On 11-08-01 02:11 AM, William Beaty wrote: Removed for repeated flagrant violation of Rule #2 "No Sneering." See:

Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The "Whipmag" All-Magnet Motor, saga

On 11-07-31 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Upon closer inspection, this counter-intuitive configuration is actually less bizarre to comprehend to those (such as me) who have studied magnetic characteristics, and who have performed countless Finite Element Method Magnetic

Re: [Vo]:Fw: New Energy Times #37 and Rossi Report #3

OK, not literally LOL, but that photo certainly got a chuckle out of me. The Florida factory and Rossi's factory which was heated for two years with a Rossi amplifier (and then sold before anyone else got to see it) seem to me to share some significant characteristics. Oh, and the isotope-shi

Re: [Vo]:Kimbler's Parts

Cool! Terry, can you give a link to something on the Art's Parts isotopic anomalies? And do you know if the isotope shifts were the same or similar in the stuff Kimbler found? On 11-08-01 01:37 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Like Art's Parts, these artifacts of the Roswell crash show isotopic an

Re: [Vo]:Kimbler's Parts

experience such a thing. (I don't suppose Robert Koontz is related to Dean, by any chance?) On 11-08-01 01:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Cool! Terry, can you give a link to something on the Art's Parts isotopic anomalies?

Re: [Vo]:Wet Steam: Energy required disperse and suspend small droplets in the vapor state

On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud. He may be finding some excess heat, but his demonstrations and comments amount to fraud anyway. Exaggerating his results is a form of fraud, and that kind of fraud has happened before. Come to think of it

Re: [Vo]:Millennium Falcon or Odd Sea Floor Formation

Interesting note in the article: The shape was found at the bottom of the Gulf of Bothnia during a search for a sunken wreck which contained several cases of champagne. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go through to get a few cases of champagne. On 11-08-03 06:12 PM, mix...@bigpond

Re: [Vo]:Passerini's Prediction

2011/8/4 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax: Now, if you assessed the probability at 70%, rationally you would bet 40 euros against a lesser amount from me. Suppose my bet is X euros. Forget the charity thing, it complicates it. It is impossible to assess probabilities for one time events, Nonsense. At the

Re: [Vo]:A flow rate of 1 L/s is not unusual or particularly high

On 11-08-04 04:24 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: But Cousin, cold water has a greater viscosity! It is excatky the opposite! Arrgh -- that's totally irrelevant. The (viscous) cold water flows into the water heater instead of the tub, the heater acts as a flow reduction device, and from there the h

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

On 11-08-05 11:00 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Also it is even more impossible that steam temperature is above boiling point of local pressure. Heavens, Jouni, where have you been? That silly argument leads directly to the conclusion that the atmosphere can't be any hotter than the temperature

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

On 11-08-06 11:04 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/8/6 Craig Haynie: You propose to end war with a global democracy, but wars will never end as long as we give the power seekers the ability to wage war. I have not seen a war in 66 years, because I live in civilized and rich country. Believe me,

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

On 11-08-06 02:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax Since WWII ended, the only wars I can think of in which at

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

I should avoid negatives, they're too easy to mess up. On 11-08-06 03:36 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-08-06 02:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:44:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

On 11-08-06 04:09 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: You said "AT LEAST one party which was not nuclear armed", which I took to mean one or both parties which were not nuclear armed. Right you were. My comment was scrambled; mine was the error. Sorry!

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence, post it!

LOL (well, OK, just chuckling, really) And so Rossi's exit strategy from the Defkalion situation has materialized. It's probably not quite what anyone expected, but it's certainly gotten him off the hook for delivering anything to them. Lots of tortuous explanations of the split are possible.

Re: [Vo]:What the Breakup Means

On 11-08-07 01:32 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Rossi, from his announcement, never trusted them with the catalyst. Therefore, if they did discover the catalyst, they did not obtain it from disclosure, and he's going to have a devil of a time trying to prove that they stole the process. Wh

Re: [Vo]:What the Breakup Means

On 11-08-07 01:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 10:52 AM 8/7/2011, noone noone wrote: Perhaps Rossi saw how far they had advanced the technology, and got spooked. We don't know the whole story. We don't know what is true at this point. Before there is any sign that Defkalion is making

Re: [Vo]:The day after Rossi

On 11-08-25 01:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: If Rossi turns out to be a fraud, or hugely mistaken for some reason, the skeptics here will deserve no credit for predicting this. Getting a little defensive, are we, Jed?

Re: [Vo]:I meant confidence that light has a speed

On 11-08-25 10:33 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 06:55 PM 8/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is an interesting footnote to history. I believe the speed of sound was not established with this much precision until later. This was done by assuming for simplicity that the speed of light is cl

Re: [Vo]:I meant confidence that light has a speed

On 11-09-12 05:18 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Sep 12, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-08-25 10:33 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 06:55 PM 8/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is an interesting footnote to history. I believe the speed of sound was not established

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

On 11-09-15 10:49 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner > wrote: More importantly, the claim that all the water was being converted to steam, the repeated, defended, and heralded basis for thinking something practical has been created, the basis for

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

useful, while we all wait to see what Rossi's exit strategy is going to be, and wait to see whether he can throw enough dust into the air to leave some people permanently convinced that he "really had something" before ... whatever ... happened. On 11-09-15 01:11 PM, Stephen A. La

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

On 11-09-15 01:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: I would get testy if people addressed me the way they have addressed him. Also, if I were Levi I would have tossed Krivit... I wasn't talking about the Krivit interview, which I haven

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

On 11-09-15 02:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: Sorry -- I'm afraid I crossed over the line in my previous post into "sneering". The truth is I feel kind of bitter about this whole thing. Don't fret abou

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

On 11-09-15 02:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: I would get testy if people addressed me the way they have addressed him. Also, if I were Levi I would have tossed Krivit... I wasn't talking about the Krivit intervi

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

On 11-09-15 03:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: My concern is actually rather different. My concern is that I suspect he knows perfectly well what the flaws were in his analysis, and realizes that the steam wasn't dry.

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

On 11-09-16 12:36 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Hey guys - isn't Rossi-mania already reading like a geek gossip column? ("Dear Daniel":) The bogosity level hovering around the E-Cat is already so extreme that further speculation pushes into the realm of Sci-Fi ... after all, I am just re-interpretin

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

On 11-09-20 02:48 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: Excuses, excuses, excuses, piled on more excuses for using methods which produce no reliable conclusions, for taking shortcuts around things so simple teenagers can do them, and not diligently working to disprove claims. How sad. I suppose you don

Re: [Vo]:stopping

Ouch -- that sounds pretty scary. Best of luck, Horace!! I hope you have a quick and complete recovery! On 11-09-20 05:24 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: I have just lost about 50% (left side) of my left eye. It may be a retinal detachment. It seems to be coming back. I may not respond for a bit.

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Review of Travel report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander, 3 April 2011

Just a few comments on your comments (parts I didn't comment on have been snipped away)... On 11-09-21 08:18 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: [ ... ] However, the graph makes no sense. There is no sign of things coming asymptotically to an equilibrium as would be expected. Yes, indeed. The graph

Re: [Vo]:About the financing of the E-cat

This is a nice story of a dedicated inventor making large sacrifices in the zealous pursuit of his vision, but is there really any reason to believe it? Rossi has not exactly been a pinnacle of truth in the past. Absent more information I'd tend to lump it in with the tale of the factory whic

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

Very cool -- thank you, Steven! If nothing else, this shoots down the old canard (often claimed by those trying to argue that SR is just a big conspiracy) that any scientist who actually measured a particle going faster than light would suppress the result to avoid going against "the establish

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

On 11-09-22 06:32 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: Note, Faster in ATMOSPHERE than light travels in ATMOSPHERE. not faster than C. Say what?? But that would be, like, totally ordinary -- electrons do it all the time. That's where Cherenkov radiation comes from. It's also *not* what the arti

Re: [Vo]:Water flow rate for 7 Sept. Lewan test

On 11-09-22 08:40 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: This is in regard to the 7 Sept. Lewan "Test of Energy Catalyzer" report. URL: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3264365.ece/BINARY/Report+E-cat+test+September+7+%28pdf%29 http://tinyurl.com/3lqn52r The report says: "Calibration peristalti

Re: [Vo]:the OTHER zero point

In fact, the questions aren't nonsense; they just need to be carefully posed to get sensible answers out of them in a universe where SR applies. There is a "distinguished frame" for the universe: The rest frame of the three degree background radiation. There just is one inertial frame of ref

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

On 11-09-23 03:30 PM, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:55, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: My understanding of that postulate of relativity was "nothing with mass" could attain or exceed C. Because, as the speed of the object approaches C, inertial mass approaches infinity, at

Re: [Vo]:the OTHER zero point

at, of course -- if you're living inside a sphere, then you'd need to turn around at some point to get back to where you started. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: In fact, the questions aren't nonsense; they just need to be carefully posed to get sen

Re: [Vo]:Neutrinos, FTL, and scientific textus receptus

On 11-09-24 01:58 AM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: [ ... ] It should be pointed out that there are formulations of relativistic transforms (Tangherlini, Selleri, etc.) which allow some form of absolute reference frame, and therefore absolute simultaneity. There is a distinct 'past' and 'future'. T

Re: [Vo]:Neutrinos, FTL, and scientific textus receptus

And by the way... On 11-09-24 01:58 AM, Kyle Mcallister wrote: Now, the article goes on to say that maybe the neutrinos did some funny travel through another dimension, and arrived at the destination sooner by taking a shortcut. So, no, they never really traveled faster than light. This is qui

Re: [Vo]:the OTHER zero point

First, you hit a sore point here, and I'm going to address it first. The sore point is people giving some special, unusual meaning to a common word, and then pretending that they've done something more clever than just introduce a monkey wrench into the discussion. On 11-09-23 07:32 PM, Mauro

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

On 11-09-30 10:39 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > From Jed: Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is "greater than" 20 km. I assume you meant to say "Prius" whereas Drag

Re: [Vo]:Russian Roulette, Murphy, and Independent Events

On 11-10-03 12:38 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: Hi, On 2-10-2011 14:25, Horace Heffner wrote: In other words, if there is any possibility of failure, i.e. q<1, then repeated events eventually, much more quickly than ordinary common sense dictates, result in failure. For example, if the probabil

Re: [Vo]:Free Work

On 11-10-05 03:55 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: When the wires have nothing holding them together or apart there is no opposition. In any case you do not answer my question which I will rephrase: if the electricity is used to power a motor, and the same electricity is used to compress or stretch

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

On 11-10-07 09:30 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: Someone else suggested that there might be a Castro gas hidden in the table leg. A canister of gas, for crying out loud. A... Thanks for the correction. I was thinking this must be yet another odd thingy which I'd never heard of be

Re: [Vo]:My comments to Lewan about pen and paper data

On 11-10-07 11:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: You say there was [a 0.1°C bias] between the inlet and outlet thermocouples. That is also a disgrace. It is ridiculous. Such things are easily corrected, and should be corrected before the test begins. [Dedicated, computer-based instrument

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

Golly... I finally looked, very briefly, at the Nyteknik report. (I've been, and am, tied up with other stuff these days.) For some reason I had assumed it was friendly to Rossi. The report is eight pages long, and uses the word "supposedly" seven times. I'm not used to seeing that word used

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

On 11-10-09 09:39 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Here are some charts of possible interest. ... It appears the RF power was ramped up at 16:38 (326 min)and down at 18:53 (461 min). The T2 curve mysteriously responds, despite the input RF power being nominal. The thermal mass of the metal and wa

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ... And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who resorts to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressing himself clearly enough to get his point across. Jed's may be a

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 12:33 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-10-10 11:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who ... And you, /Mister/ Catania, are apparently the type of poster who resorts to ad hominems when he's having trouble expressi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

On 11-10-10 11:56 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: I continue to update the review at: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Rossi6Oct2011Review.pdf Thanks, Horace! There's a lot of "light reading" there, and I can't claim to have read all of it as yet -- very nice analysis. I found out I need

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

On 11-10-10 10:58 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > From Stephen: Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections and functions add so much interest to the question of How It Works Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler? I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation i

Re: [Vo]:No Control

On 11-10-10 01:14 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I'm reminded of something recently stated over at the PESN web site, author, Hank Mills: See: http://pesn.com/2011/10/08/9501929_E-Cat_Test_Validates_Cold_Fusion_Despite_Challenges/ http://tinyurl.com/6a7zcw2 Specifically: No Contr

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

On 11-10-10 04:35 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote: If someone "Couldn't care less", it means that they care so little that it's impossible for them to care any less than they do right now. If someone "Could care less", it means that they care enough that it's possible to care less. _*Irregardle

Re: [Vo]:Energy Analyzer for E-Cat

On 11-10-12 03:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Another possibility is to make a small modification to each component: Measure the flow rate a little bit wrong, measure temperatures a little bit wrong, calculate a little bit wrong, introduce so much errors and inaccuracies that a single one -if d

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

OMG -- of course! You can't synchronize (all) clocks on the Earth's surface -- it's a rotating frame, and Sagnac comes around and bites you on the bumm if you try! Yet by using the GPS satellite signals, which are available everywhere, they were doing essentially that: using a "universal" tim

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

words, if you sync your clocks using the GPS system, then you've automatically failed to take account of the motion of the Earth's surface. Maybe their problem was more subtle than this, but it doesn't sound like it. 2011/10/14 Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>>

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

carefully"...) On 11-10-14 03:11 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: They do take account of that. -- Forwarded message ------ From: *Stephen A. Lawrence* mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> Date: 2011/10/14 Subject: Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light To:

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

On 11-09-26 01:56 AM, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: On 23 Sep 2011, at 20:46, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-09-23 03:30 PM, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: From first principles if one starts with the notion that everyone should see light as travelling at the same speed, then a simple

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

On 11-10-14 05:58 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: Hi, On 14-10-2011 21:04, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: The point is they're using a time value which is "universal". An observer hanging in space, stationary, directly over the pole, looking down at GPS receivers all over the Earth

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

On 11-10-14 09:44 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Using clocks in another frame (the GPS clocks) to synchronize the clocks in the rotating frame (on the surface of the earth) just adds confusion, it doesn't avoid the problem, whi

Re: [Vo]:OrboCat

On 11-10-16 10:18 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: As you can hear from the nervous laughter in the video Steorn staff like to joke, but do you still think Steorn's Orbo is a joke? Yup. (Joke, scam, fake -- pick your term, they all apply.) This is another typical Steorn production -- nothing's meas

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

On 11-10-17 03:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Robert, You state: You [Mr. Rothwell] may disagree, and now be 100% convinced, but it's your personal attacks that are troubling. Where has Mr. Rothwell attacked you personally? Well, if Robert is claiming that there was no energ

Re: [Vo]:George Miley presentation on Rossi/Patterson LENR

On 11-10-18 04:13 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: George Miley (U. of Illinois) recent published a Powerpoint presentation (dated Oct-3-2011 on Google) entitled "Nuclear Battery Using D-Clusters in Nano-materials --- plus some comments about prior H2-Ni power cell studies" at the following

Re: [Vo]:George Miley presentation on Rossi/Patterson LENR

On 11-10-18 07:34 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Yes. I think you are correct. The slides' text is terse. It does appear that the more current experiments fall short of Patterson's results. But, unless the reaction products have been measured incorrectly, some anomalous nuclear reactions

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

On 11-10-18 10:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Again, I told him that. He response was to accuse me of sabotaging his work, and to blame me for his decision to make the Oct. 28 test "private." So this test is to be "private"? What does that mean, really? Does it mean we'll have to take the wo

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

On 11-10-21 02:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a containership engine: http://www.emma-maersk.com/engine/Wartsila_Sulzer_RTA96-C.htm Very cool! It appears to be an internal combustion engine, which seems bizarre. I thought super high scale power was all generated with external combust

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

On 11-10-21 03:39 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Any idea where the beast is actually made? Would you believe Finland? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4 No way! That's a surprise, all right! And the shipper on the

Re: [Vo]:Steam engines

On 11-10-21 03:45 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Any idea where the beast is actually made? Would you believe Finland? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4 Designed in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

On 11-10-24 01:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt? Bernard Madoff comes first to mind. But then, one think

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

On 11-10-24 03:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: On 11-10-24 01:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of literature and drama. Think of the role that

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

On 11-10-25 10:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Andrea Rossi said to reporters: We do not use radioactive materials, do not leave radioactive material and the highes temperature we can reach is the melting point of nickel : once the nickel melts, the E-Cat stops and this fact makes i

Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?

On 11-10-29 12:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Peter Gluck mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com>> wrote: I will make a people search for the US. He appears to be Italian. Why would he be registered in the U.S? Registered as what? I've worked as an engineer in the U.S. and I never was registered an

Re: [Vo]:How fast was the steam moving?

On 11-10-31 09:15 AM, vorl bek wrote: A while back, somebody here did a rough calculation that, given the size of the outlet in the 1mw ecat, steam would have to be flying out of it at greater than the speed of sound if it were really putting out 1mw. Since there were two outlets from the look

Re: [Vo]:megawatt ecat produces 70 kW [very little steam, mixed with water]: Joshua Cude: Rich Murray 2011.10.31

On 11-10-31 04:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 31.10.2011 21:17, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: I cannot imagine this heating energy being compressed on some m^3 small space without becoming very hot. There must be an air flow of 4 m^3 / s if 20° air is heated to 100° (without th

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

Alan J. Fletcher wrote [quoting Colonel Fioravanti): The only case when you have low steam quality or droplets or liquid water in this steam is in long or poorly isolated tubes fro steam transport. Steam then condenses and there will be a flow of water together with the steam. This is not the

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-01 10:25 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Steven A. Lawrence has presented a new argument, No I didn't. (No credit where no credit is due, please.) It's the same argument that's been bashed around for the last how-ever-many months. I think it's vanishingly unlikely that the power level co

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-01 10:36 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Did the buyer take away the huge eKat in its storage container? No he left it in Rossi's care. Andrea plans to sell it again to another buyer. Boy, that sure saves a lot of assembly time and ef

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-02 02:22 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: Hi, On 2-11-2011 19:07, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-11-01 10:25 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Steven A. Lawrence has presented a new argument, No I didn't. (No credit where no credit is due, please.) It's the same argument that

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-01 09:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: Since the pump rate was constant, that means the power level was constant with a precision of +/- 0.09 percent. (That's 9/100 of 1 percent.) This, in a process which is said

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-02 04:48 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Either that, or the water level fluctuated. That seems more likely to me. When it starts to rise, you increase the reaction. When it falls too far, you throttle it. This is, of course, all old stuff being reiterated here

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-03 03:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: The colonel and others who know a lot about steam have all said that they are certain this was dry steam. I mean that he said that about Rossi's previous tests. And this one too. There is no doubt the Oct. 28 test produced only dry

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

On 11-11-03 04:20 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-11-03 03:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: The colonel and others who know a lot about steam have all said that they are certain this was dry steam. I mean that he said that about Rossi's previous tests. And this on

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

On 11-11-06 10:10 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Earlier, I asked if AR would fulfill his promise to send money to fight childhood cancer. Well, it seems someone else also wonders. klaatu November 6th, 2011 at 12:30 PM Dear Dr. Rossi Thank you again for the considerate answer to the previous quest

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

On 11-11-07 09:12 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: Eh? This will make it impossible to verify that the anything was given to anybody, and we'll just have to take Rossi's word for it, right? Or we can not take his wo

Re: [Vo]:Minor progress

Quick question, Horace: Are you going for the 470kW which was claimed, or are you working with a reduced number? The 470 value seems to have been predicated, once again, on total vaporization of the input water. If that didn't take place then the generated power may have been substantially l

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

On 11-11-07 09:35 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: That is true up to the moment when he makes public commitments as to what he's doing with it. As he has done. What commitments? Has he signed a contract? Excuse me -- I

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

On 11-11-07 01:42 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote: "1. As I said before, I have never seen Rossi lie about engineering technical claims." Granted that's not a blanket defense but it certainly can be applie

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

On 11-11-07 02:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Isotope shifts!?! I must have said a hundred times these shifts make no sense and I suppose they are errors. Sorry! I thought you had defended that one. (It was, after all, one of Rossi's "technical&quo

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