Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Che]

Now they're invoking their gods... and the fact that we can't even _really_
tell if this guy below is *kidding* or not, speaks volumes about the state
of the USA and Science, today.

It also speaks somewhat about the state of this e-List.
In any case -- the troll who began this gratuitous
anti-communist/pro-Imperialist/corporate thread got all his wishes granted.

People are so easily led. And the _more_ so the more degrees they have, it
is said. Maybe Mary Yugo should come back, somewhere.




On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:26 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> When you don’t have a solution, just give up.
>
>
>
> On the other hand maybe you should pray to God to find salvation for
yourself.   And, if you are patient,  a prescription for filtering claque
will be provided.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook

Re: How to filter messages - was Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Che]

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Aldo Maggi  wrote:

> Well, I use Linux Evolution and Claws-mail and not Windows Outlook, but
> I do not think that the system is different:
> write a filter adding the addresses of people whose mails you do not
> want to read (e.g.  comandantegri...@gmail.com ) and send them to a
> special Folder (e.g. Noisy_people)



And what does this make YOU then, Aldo..? No wonder you people are
marginalized generally, as a group... and support money-grubbing, secretive
cads like Rossi.

And don't compare my political persuasion to your situation, OK? We have
defined the politics of the entire Planet for the past century -- whatever
your brainwashing tells you. Sometime I just can't wait for the looming
economic collapse of the Capitalist order... simply because of the
underhanded crud I have to deal with from certain self-righteous people.

How to filter messages - was Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Aldo Maggi]

Well, I use Linux Evolution and Claws-mail and not Windows Outlook, but
I do not think that the system is different:
write a filter adding the addresses of people whose mails you do not
want to read (e.g.  comandantegri...@gmail.com ) and send them to a
special Folder (e.g. Noisy_people) or ask for simply deleting them;
afterwards write another filter, which must be placed after the above
one (if you haven't done it yet), and send all the remaining emails
which have in "To:" the address vortex-l@eskimo.com to a new Folder
named: Vortex.
That's all,

Aldo :-) 


Il giorno mar, 25/07/2017 alle 11.14 +, Brian Ahern ha scritto:
> I do not know how to filter. I want to block the Rossi claque.
> 
> 
> From: Che 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:18 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR
>  
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, John Shop 
> wrote:
> > As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared
> > out:
> > > I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?
> > > From: Che 
> > > .  .  .
> >  
> > Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder so that it doesn't
> > get in the way of real email and you can delete en-mass when
> > required.
> > 
> > Alternatively if it is only one annoying sender (and if I guess
> > right), then you probably just have to mention to our list patron
> > Bill Beatty that it looks like our petty-bourgeois grok is back and
> > starting to get up lots of peoples noses - and Bill will banish him
> > to vortexB again!
> > 
> 
> Spoken like a natural-born police-informer.
> 
> If all it takes to censor people here is a little clique having its
> way -- so be it.
> 
> 
>  
> 

RE: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

When you don’t have a solution, just give up.

On the other hand maybe you should pray to God to find salvation for yourself.  
 And, if you are patient,  a prescription for filtering claque will be provided.

Bob Cook

From: Brian Ahern<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:15 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR


I do not know how to filter. I want to block the Rossi claque.


From: Che 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR



On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, John Shop 
mailto:quack...@outlook.com>> wrote:
As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared out:


I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?

From: Che <mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>
.  .  .


Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder so that it doesn't get in the 
way of real email and you can delete en-mass when required.



Alternatively if it is only one annoying sender (and if I guess right), then 
you probably just have to mention to our list patron Bill Beatty that it looks 
like our petty-bourgeois grok is back and starting to get up lots of peoples 
noses - and Bill will banish him to vortexB again!

Spoken like a natural-born police-informer.

If all it takes to censor people here is a little clique having its way -- so 
be it.

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Brian Ahern]

I do not know how to filter. I want to block the Rossi claque.



From: Che 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR



On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, John Shop 
mailto:quack...@outlook.com>> wrote:
As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared out:

I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?


From: Che <mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>
.  .  .


Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder so that it doesn't get in the 
way of real email and you can delete en-mass when required.


Alternatively if it is only one annoying sender (and if I guess right), then 
you probably just have to mention to our list patron Bill Beatty that it looks 
like our petty-bourgeois grok is back and starting to get up lots of peoples 
noses - and Bill will banish him to vortexB again!

Spoken like a natural-born police-informer.

If all it takes to censor people here is a little clique having its way -- so 
be it.

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Che]

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, John Shop  wrote:

> As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared out:
>
> I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?
> --
> *From:* Che  
> .  .  .
>
>
> Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder so that it doesn't get in
> the way of real email and you can delete en-mass when required.
>
>
> Alternatively if it is only one annoying sender (and if I guess right),
> then you probably just have to mention to our list patron Bill Beatty that
> it looks like our petty-bourgeois grok is back and starting to get up lots
> of peoples noses - and Bill will banish him to vortexB again!
>

Spoken like a natural-born police-informer.

If all it takes to censor people here is a little clique having its way --
so be it.

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[John Shop]

As the smoke cleared Brian Ahern mounted the barricade and roared out:

I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?


From: Che 
.  .  .


Best to filter all vortex mail to its own folder so that it doesn't get in the 
way of real email and you can delete en-mass when required.


Alternatively if it is only one annoying sender (and if I guess right), then 
you probably just have to mention to our list patron Bill Beatty that it looks 
like our petty-bourgeois grok is back and starting to get up lots of peoples 
noses - and Bill will banish him to vortexB again!

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Che]

lol

Just as long as you don't get to censor everyone's else's responses to your
musings.

Fission, indeed... the whole POINT of cold fusion is to NOT 'do fission'.
Pfft.





On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?
>
>
> --
> *From:* Che 
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:40 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>> Nuclear fission has a lot of critics, and rightly so ... but all of the
>> problems of fission derive from trying to control a multi-ton critical mass
>> of explosively enriched U in a steam pressurized reactor. Even with that
>> major design problem, the French have demonstrated to the rest of the World
>> that fission can make economic sense.
>>
>> Even with Fukushima still smoldering, we must consider that an improved
>> version of nuclear fission can make great economic sense. This is
>> especially true for countries without much oil. When the electric car goes
>> into mass production at lower cost (soon) off-peak recharging is a feature
>> which makes fission more economically viable in the 'big picture'.
>>
>> A "new and improved" version of fission means ditching enrichment, going
>> subcritical, going small and modular and with direct conversion of heat to
>> electricity. It is easily possible that fission can be made preferable to
>> hot fusion in every way, and less costly than any other option including
>> coal and cold fusion, if Pd is required.
>
>
> I hear they're getting energy out of windmills and solar panels too, these
> days.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Brian Ahern]

I use outlook for e-mails.How do you block certain senders?



From: Che 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR



On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Jones Beene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
Nuclear fission has a lot of critics, and rightly so ... but all of the 
problems of fission derive from trying to control a multi-ton critical mass of 
explosively enriched U in a steam pressurized reactor. Even with that major 
design problem, the French have demonstrated to the rest of the World that 
fission can make economic sense.

Even with Fukushima still smoldering, we must consider that an improved version 
of nuclear fission can make great economic sense. This is especially true for 
countries without much oil. When the electric car goes into mass production at 
lower cost (soon) off-peak recharging is a feature which makes fission more 
economically viable in the 'big picture'.

A "new and improved" version of fission means ditching enrichment, going 
subcritical, going small and modular and with direct conversion of heat to 
electricity. It is easily possible that fission can be made preferable to hot 
fusion in every way, and less costly than any other option including coal and 
cold fusion, if Pd is required.

I hear they're getting energy out of windmills and solar panels too, these days.

Re: [Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Che]

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Nuclear fission has a lot of critics, and rightly so ... but all of the
> problems of fission derive from trying to control a multi-ton critical mass
> of explosively enriched U in a steam pressurized reactor. Even with that
> major design problem, the French have demonstrated to the rest of the World
> that fission can make economic sense.
>
> Even with Fukushima still smoldering, we must consider that an improved
> version of nuclear fission can make great economic sense. This is
> especially true for countries without much oil. When the electric car goes
> into mass production at lower cost (soon) off-peak recharging is a feature
> which makes fission more economically viable in the 'big picture'.
>
> A "new and improved" version of fission means ditching enrichment, going
> subcritical, going small and modular and with direct conversion of heat to
> electricity. It is easily possible that fission can be made preferable to
> hot fusion in every way, and less costly than any other option including
> coal and cold fusion, if Pd is required.


I hear they're getting energy out of windmills and solar panels too, these
days.

[Vo]:Fission may be the best fit for future LENR

[Jones Beene]

Nuclear fission has a lot of critics, and rightly so ... but all of the 
problems of fission derive from trying to control a multi-ton critical 
mass of explosively enriched U in a steam pressurized reactor. Even with 
that major design problem, the French have demonstrated to the rest of 
the World that fission can make economic sense.


Even with Fukushima still smoldering, we must consider that an improved 
version of nuclear fission can make great economic sense. This is 
especially true for countries without much oil. When the electric car 
goes into mass production at lower cost (soon) off-peak recharging is a 
feature which makes fission more economically viable in the 'big picture'.


A "new and improved" version of fission means ditching enrichment, going 
subcritical, going small and modular and with direct conversion of heat 
to electricity. It is easily possible that fission can be made 
preferable to hot fusion in every way, and less costly than any other 
option including coal and cold fusion, if Pd is required. Surprisingly, 
fission is cleaner than fusion when radioactive waste is burned in situ.


However, the major and almost insurmountable problem of small 
subcritical natural uranium reactors is this: finding a cheap source of 
makeup neutrons. It was once considered impossible.


Enter the virtual neutron - in the form of UDH.

We may be on the verge of a new atomic age... by adopting the lessons 
learned from LENR into the existing infrastructure of fission. Assuming 
that reports of neutron generating devices based on converting hydrogen 
are accurate, we are past the prototype stage and product is being 
shipped. Here is a long and confused explanation of the phenomenon to 
convert hydrogen into a neutron or something close... which overlooks 
UDH and the work of Holmlid and thus is missing the most important insight.


http://www.i-b-r.org/Rutherford-Santilli-neutron.htm

The premise here is that UDH is so similar to a real neutron that it can 
be designated as virtual, becoming the needed "cheap source of makeup 
neutrons" for subcritical fission. Never mind that we are not sure that 
UDH will induce fission as easily as a neutron, but as far back as 1929 
Walter Nernst discovered a phenomenon that indicates it will.


The irony cannot be overlooked - the future of affordable and renewable 
energy may have shifted one eccentric Italian to another, even more 
eccentric Italian. Rossi and Santilli - both now Floridians have a 
common heritage in more ways than one.


LOL - this is almost gallows-humor in a way. The trickster rules... or 
perhaps, in some dark and mysterious way, we are experiencing the legacy 
of the great Fermi... chi lo sa?