Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-04-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
My *FINAL* version is up at http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v310.php Main changes : I added an abstract I moved the conclusion near the end of the document I added a plethora of Sherlock Holmes quotes. I'm going to generate (semi-automatically, I hope) a reference PDF printable

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-04-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
You spelled Krivit wrong. As Krivet. One more revision after all! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-04-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:36 PM 4/1/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: You spelled Krivit wrong. As Krivet. One more revision after all! Fixed. I looked at his paper and corrected KrivetS to Krivet. I think it's a fact of proof-reading that if you correct an error then the probabilty of missing an error within one

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-04-01 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:36 PM 4/1/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: One more revision after all! V 3.11 http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v311.php Printable HTML (just with form-feeds) : http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v311.php?print PDF for reference (with footer, page numbers etc) :

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Nearly done ... http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v309.php?todo=1 Apart from final clean-up, I'm wondering whether to present the results in summary form : Thinks: For each fake material I present five different experiments --- I could make a summary table ordered by experiment and then

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I'm looking for a quote I read *YEARS* ago ... with respect to what you have to do to get PF Cold fusion to work Something like 5 essential steps, where the debunkers skipped one or more of them I do not understand this comment. No one knows what steps

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:44 AM 3/24/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I'm looking for a quote I read *YEARS* ago ... with respect to what you have to do to get PF Cold fusion to work Something like 5 essential steps, where the debunkers skipped one or more of them I do not

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Dennis
that looks familiar. But remember correlation does not mean causation. Now I wonder if you can find my poster presentation for the same meeting : ) concerning gas loading yielding heat at higher temperatures .. The review was made at the request of the conference aimed at introducing new

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Yet another version : http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v307.php I've expanded the history section, added Jed's hidden tubes to the Hidden wires and added more disclaimers to the methodology (ie I that I include impractical solutions). I MIGHT add to each Fake a comment on its

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:38 AM 3/24/2011, Dennis wrote: that looks familiar. But remember correlation does not mean causation. My History section now has: Cravens And Letts (The Enabling Criteria of Electrochemical Heat: Beyond Reasonable Doubt) performed a statistical anaylysis of 167 papers, and identified 4

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Dennis wrote: I am still no where near Rossi's 10Kw/100g Ni =100W/gm. I am still lucky to see 0.5 W/g on a good day. Okay, so can you try 200 g to get ~100 W? Or would that much material be too expensive? Would it not fit into your cell? I think it would be valuable to demonstrate a 100

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Dennis's message of Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:38:31 -0600: Hi, [snip] much of anything. I am still no where near Rossi's 10Kw/100g Ni =100W/gm. I am still lucky to see 0.5 W/g on a good day. Oh I wish I know what Rossi's secret additive is. Dennis C ...My guess would be Regards,

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Dennis's message of Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:38:31 -0600: Hi, [snip] I am still no where near Rossi's 10Kw/100g Ni =100W/gm. I am still lucky to see 0.5 W/g on a good day. Oh I wish I know what Rossi's secret additive is. I would give NaOH a shot. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks, Cousin for mentioning my opinion. A large reaction is good: a) because it is a promise of technological usefulness, b) it helps you to NOT waste creativity on sophisticated measurement-as calorimetry, saves you from metrologomania. I don't understand the problem of signal/noise in this

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v306.php At 06:10 PM 3/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Typo in report: higher inout power Probably should be: higher input power Is that still there? .. I fixed it a few versions ago, and can't find it in my current version. In the report you wrote: Since

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: higher inout power Probably should be: higher input power Is that still there? .. It's fixed. burned, there would be copious, fatally asphyxiating fumes --- though in the January experiment they could theoretically have been piped out of the

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher
I'm looking for a quote I read *YEARS* ago ... with respect to what you have to do to get PF Cold fusion to work Something like 5 essential steps, where the debunkers skipped one or more of them Krivits http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2005/2005KrivitS-HowCanItBeReal-Paper.pdf

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:31 PM 3/18/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I've almost finished the main versionhttp://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v305.php Todo : -- Implement expressions for the remaining mechanisms (eg Heat storage). -- Research the Energy Density for Boron/Steam (probably the highest density)

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Typo in report: higher inout power Probably should be: higher input power In the report you wrote: Since then, Rossi has PAID the University of Bologna E500,000 to investigate and develop the eCat device . . . I believe that's E1,000,000. Some or all of the original 'independent