Re: [webkit-dev] The Care and Feeding of WebCore Modules

2012-03-01 Thread Kentaro Hara
== Likely Future Modules == filesystem = DISCUSS BEFORE MODULARIZATION notifications = DISCUSS BEFORE MODULARIZATION pagevisibility = DISCUSS BEFORE MODULARIZATION protocolhandler = DISCUSS BEFORE MODULARIZATION websql = DISCUSS BEFORE MODULARIZATION webaudio = DISCUSS BEFORE

[webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
Hi, It seems Qt bots and developers are banned from svn.webkit.org. :((( Could you remove 160.114.0.0/16 network from the ban list, please? br, Ossy ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org

Re: [webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread M Rahaman
Hi All, I have been observing svn.webkit.org trac.webkit.org are up down very frequently since morning now both of them are down :( Is this kind of known problem? Regs, Rahaman -Original Message- From: webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org [mailto:webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org] On

Re: [webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
Hi All, To avoid overloading svn.webkit.org again and again with zillion svn checkout after rm -rf-ed working copies on the bots, I stopped all of our clobbered buildbot. After unbanning our network, I'll copy a locally tar-ed WebKit-svn copy to all bots and then restart them one by one not to

Re: [webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread Mark Rowe
On 2012-03-01, at 03:37, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: Hi All, To avoid overloading svn.webkit.org again and again with zillion svn checkout after rm -rf-ed working copies on the bots, I stopped all of our clobbered buildbot. After unbanning our network, I'll copy a

[webkit-dev] Implementing the Speech JavaScript API

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Wennborg
Hello WebKit, Currently, there is some limited support for speech recognition in WebKit, by means of the x-webkit-speech attribute to input elements. We would like to continue the development of this to allow web apps to better utilize the possibilities of speech recognition and text-to-speech

Re: [webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
Mark Rowe írta: On 2012-03-01, at 03:37, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: After unbanning our network, I'll copy a locally tar-ed WebKit-svn copy to all bots and then restart them one by one not to overload svn.webkit.org. You can get a relatively up to date working copy from

Re: [webkit-dev] svn.webkit.org

2012-03-01 Thread Mark Rowe
On 2012-03-01, at 04:28, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: Mark Rowe írta: On 2012-03-01, at 03:37, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: After unbanning our network, I'll copy a locally tar-ed WebKit-svn copy to all bots and then restart them one by one not to overload

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
Here are some things that may help; *#1 svn server overloading when all the slaves bootstrap at the same time* The only good work around is to keep an internal read-only svn-mirror that the slaves use instead of the real svn server. This means that builds must be triggered on the svn-mirror,

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
Hi, Marc-Antoine Ruel írta: Here are some things that may help; *#1 svn server overloading when all the slaves bootstrap at the same time* The only good work around is to keep an internal read-only svn-mirror that the slaves use instead of the real svn server. This means that builds must be

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba wrote: And one more technical question. Could you add an svn post-commit hook to do svnsync on the mirror svn server if we finished setting up the server? How would you want svn.webkit.org to signal the mirror? I think having svn.webkit.org

Re: [webkit-dev] -webkit-transform-origin-x,y CSS properties

2012-03-01 Thread Dirk Schulze
On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Hans Muller wrote: Are the -webkit-transform-origin-x,y CSS properties on their way in our out? The ugly little test below demonstrates that they're probably not supported by Opera or Mozilla. They are not

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
Hi, William Siegrist írta: On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba wrote: And one more technical question. Could you add an svn post-commit hook to do svnsync on the mirror svn server if we finished setting up the server? How would you want svn.webkit.org to signal the mirror? I think

Re: [webkit-dev] Introducing run-perf-tests and Adding Performance Bots

2012-03-01 Thread Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
A Qt WebKit1 performance bot was added last week, sorry for the late announcement. If I'm not mistaken, currently run-perf-tests works with DRT only, but what if we would like to make it work with WTR as well so we could also have WebKit2 performance bots running? I'm not aware of the

Re: [webkit-dev] spinoff from webkit-patch -g discussion

2012-03-01 Thread David Kilzer
On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: In my view, I would actually rather upload the combination of committed + staged + unstaged changes rather than be told I have to commit things; in other words, I actually prefer to commit what I've uploaded rather than upload what I've

Re: [webkit-dev] Introducing run-perf-tests and Adding Performance Bots

2012-03-01 Thread Žan Doberšek
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia je...@webkit.orgwrote: A Qt WebKit1 performance bot was added last week, sorry for the late announcement. If I'm not mistaken, currently run-perf-tests works with DRT only, but what if we would like to make it work with WTR as well so we

Re: [webkit-dev] Implementing the Speech JavaScript API

2012-03-01 Thread Adam Barth
Hi Hans, On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Hans Wennborg h...@chromium.org wrote: Currently, there is some limited support for speech recognition in WebKit, by means of the x-webkit-speech attribute to input elements. We would like to continue the development of this to allow web apps to better

Re: [webkit-dev] -webkit-transform-origin-x,y CSS properties

2012-03-01 Thread Simon Fraser
On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Dirk Schulze wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Hans Muller wrote: Are the -webkit-transform-origin-x,y CSS properties on their way in our out? The ugly little test below demonstrates that they're probably

Re: [webkit-dev] spinoff from webkit-patch -g discussion

2012-03-01 Thread Dirk Pranke
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, David Kilzer ddkil...@webkit.org wrote: On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: In my view, I would actually rather upload the combination of committed + staged + unstaged changes rather than be told I have to commit things; in other words, I actually

Re: [webkit-dev] build.webkit.org is very sick

2012-03-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
It appears that build.webkit.org/console has been stale since http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/109329 Could someone look into that? - Ryosuke On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ashod Nakashian ashodnakash...@yahoo.comwrote: FYI, The build server seems to be acting up again. All build servers

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: Hi, William Siegrist írta: On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba wrote: And one more technical question. Could you add an svn post-commit hook to do svnsync on the mirror svn server if we finished setting up

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 1, 2012, at 11:13 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com wrote: On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: Hi, William Siegrist írta: On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Osztrogonac Csaba wrote: And one more technical question. Could you add an svn

Re: [webkit-dev] CSS properties vs. their JS bindings on the style object

2012-03-01 Thread Erik Arvidsson
How about making this a compile time flag or runtime flag so that Apple Dashboard and iOS can keep it but let other users of WebKit disable it? erik On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 22:23, Benjamin Poulain benja...@webkit.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:48 PM,  t...@codeaurora.org wrote:

Re: [webkit-dev] CSS properties vs. their JS bindings on the style object

2012-03-01 Thread David Hyatt
We shouldn't fragment WebKit engine behavior like that, especially when the feature is already being used to detect WebKit browsers (any WebKit-based browser would just be shooting itself in the foot by removing support for this). My vote would be to just spec it. If Trident and WebKit already

Re: [webkit-dev] Introducing run-perf-tests and Adding Performance Bots

2012-03-01 Thread Jesus Sanchez-Palencia
I have opened the On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Žan Doberšek zandober...@gmail.com wrote: To get WKTR running the performance tests a '-2' switch must be added to PerfTestRunner and some refactoring is required in the WKTR itself to properly handle the '--no-timeout' switch when given. I've

Re: [webkit-dev] Implementing the Speech JavaScript API

2012-03-01 Thread Satish Sampath
Hi Adam, Hi Adam, The proposal is to implement [3] which is a pure JS API and no new html markup. It will be implemented as a module as you suggested. The first patch in [4] shows the first iteration of the implementation ( https://bugs.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=129679action=review ), though

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread Osztrogonac Csaba
William Siegrist írta: The Szeged slaves are unblocked. -Bill Many thanks, I copied up-to-date svn working copy to them and then started. I have only one more little request. Could you kick git.webkit.org too? It seems it is still stay on r109303. Our EWS would be happy if it works again.

Re: [webkit-dev] git.webkit.org problem

2012-03-01 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Osztrogonac Csaba o...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: William Siegrist írta: The Szeged slaves are unblocked. -Bill Many thanks, I copied up-to-date svn working copy to them and then started. I have only one more little request. Could you kick git.webkit.org too? It

Re: [webkit-dev] Implementing the Speech JavaScript API

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Wennborg
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 20:49, Satish Sampath sat...@chromium.org wrote: Hi Adam, The proposal is to implement [3] which is a pure JS API and no new html markup. Yes, what Satish said. My apologies for being a bit unclear about which one we plan implement. I have been following the ongoing

Re: [webkit-dev] CSS properties vs. their JS bindings on the style object

2012-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I agree with Hyatt. It's not like this behavior is especially harmful or confusing. Authors are unlikely to run into properties with hyphens in the names unless they go looking. And it can be useful if you ever want to pass around actual CSS property names by string in an API - no need to

[webkit-dev] Adding -webkit-image-set CSS function

2012-03-01 Thread Beth Dakin
Hi all! Ted O'Connor recently proposed a new CSS function for the Images module to the CSS working group called image-set. The idea behind the feature is to allow authors to provide multiple variants of the same image at differing resolutions, and to allow the User Agent to choose the resource

[webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Ojan Vafai
We have a lot of code (e.g. in ContainerNode.cpp or any of the editing code) that needs to RefPtr nodes to make sure they're not destroyed due to synchronous events like blur, mutation events, etc. For example, ContainerNode::removeChild needs to RefPtr the parent to make it's not destroyed during

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding -webkit-image-set CSS function

2012-03-01 Thread Hajime Morrita
(Resending from the right address...) Hi Beth, Thanks for letting us know about this! The feature sounds gerat for anyone trying to make their pages more responsive. Are you going to add any compilation flags? Also, if there is a Bugzilla entry to track this, I'd like to know that. When

Re: [webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Adam Barth
Do we understand what's causing the performance regression? For example, there are other implementation approaches where we try to transfer the last ref rather than churning it or where we could use a free list rather than a vector. I just wonder if there's a way to get the benefits with a lower

Re: [webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: We have a lot of code (e.g. in ContainerNode.cpp or any of the editing code) that needs to RefPtr nodes to make sure they're not destroyed due to synchronous events like blur, mutation events, etc. For example,

Re: [webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I agree with Adam's remarks. The safety benefit seems great, but we should investigate ways to get it at less performance cost (ideally no measurable cost). I'm also curious what impact this change has on less micro- but still DOM-oriented benchmarks, such as Dromaeo's DOM tests, Peacekeeper,

Re: [webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Ojan Vafai
I think my earlier testing was faulty. Now when I test case 2, I get something comparable with and without the patch. If there is a regression, it's below the noise. Running it through a profiler shows a negligible amount of time in the new code. I had tried running it through Dromaeo first, but

Re: [webkit-dev] scoping Node destruction during DOM modifications

2012-03-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: I think my earlier testing was faulty. Now when I test case 2, I get something comparable with and without the patch. If there is a regression, it's below the noise. Running it through a profiler shows a negligible amount of