Re: [libreoffice-website] On Libreoffice templates

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Priscilla,

This mailing list is primarily about the LibreOffice website (design, 
navigation, infrastructure) and is not a support channel for 
LibreOffice.


In your case, it appears that the issue isn't about LibreOffice itself, 
but how you access your public company folder, which is a feature of 
your operating system. If you can access that folder in your file 
manager (eg Windows Explorer), you can drag and drop the template into 
it.


For more help, try here: http://ask.libreoffice.org/

Good luck!

Mike



On 20.06.2016 23:43, Priscilla Rodriguez wrote:

P, UL, OL, DL, DIR, MENU, PRE { margin: 0 auto;}
Hello Libreoffice team:


I have a question regarding template creation and export.


I've created a template in Libreoffice that I'd like to make available
in a public company folder. How can I do this? The only option I see
is saving the template for my own use within my Libreoffice desktop
application. My team cannot access the template from their remote
desktops.




Please advise. Thank you so much for your help in advance!


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Introduction

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Brian,

Welcome! And thanks in advance for any assistance and contributions you 
can give. You mentioned joining the call today -- we have a few calls in 
different projects across the week, so can you clarify which one please? 
(eg infrastructure or documentation)


Mike


On 16.06.2016 07:12, Brian Stanaland wrote:
I'm Brian Stanaland. I joined the call today. I've been on the mailing 
list
for a while but was finally able to join one of the calls. I'd like to 
help

the project wherever I can.

I started using Solaris full time in 1996 while running a satellite
communications team for the US Army.
I finished my time in the Army and got a job as a Solaris admin and
hardware break/fix tech. I helped train people for the transition from
Applix to StarOffice. I built 30 or so Ultra 10 workstations.
From there I went to PanAmSat to help with their video on demand 
project

using IP over satellite for delivery. When the project was cancelled I
stayed on as part of the satellite maintenance group.
To get back into Unix, I took a job with Delta Air Lines. I was on the 
web

infrastructure team. We ran Solaris and Sun Java Web Server. I deployed
patches, new versions of software, etc. This was done mostly through
deployment scripts created by the team. The whole technology group was
outsourced to IBM. I stayed with IBM for another three years until they
downsized the group.
I found a job in the Georgia Tech computer operations group. We ran
backups, monitored the systems via HP OpenView, and ran the campus DNS
system.
From there I moved to Orlando, Florida where I began working for the
Highwinds on their content delivery network. We were running Gentoo and
doing deployments by manually copying tarballs to the servers. We 
switched
to CentOS using Chef to build the systems and Puppet for deploying apps 
and

configurations. Much better way to do things.
Moving back to Atlanta, I started working for a small company called
Predictix. Their software ran on Amazon's AWS platform. I handled
deployments, backups, monitoring, etc. I rebuilt the Zabbix monitoring
system to include the vastly expanded footprint of the company's 
systems.

The company went through restructuring and my position was eliminated.
I now work for SGI as a customer support technician.I assist customers 
with

troubleshooting SGI hardware and software.


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[libreoffice-website] Some links broken on Governance page of main LO site

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Hi,

Going to About us -> Governance leads to this page: 
https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/governance/


Some of the links (eg "The Board of Directors" and "The Membership 
Committee") produce error messages like:


"Action 'board' isn't available on class Page_Controller."

Not sure if this is a temporary thing as it's the first time I've 
checked on the main LO site...


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[libreoffice-website] New screenshots added to the website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

As mentioned before, the old screenshots on the LO site were very 
low-res and a bit of a mixed bunch:


http://web.archive.org/web/20160304025646/http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/

I've made and uploaded some new ones (with click-throughs to high-res 
versions), that show more detail and "action" in the various components 
of the suite:


http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/

There's still the question of whether we should have a dedicated page of 
screenshots like this, or roll them in to the individual pages for each 
app. Any thoughts?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] New screenshots added to the website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Charles,

On 12.04.2016 16:21, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:


* we must ensure screenshots are regularly updated for each release
with the right highlighted feature
* the inclusion of screenshots directly into the new features page or
what is LibreOffice implies some major rework of these 2 pages - it is
not wrong to do it but it will be quite some work.


Yes, those are good points -- so let's leave it for now. As we get 
closer to LO 5.2 I'll make some videos demonstrating the new features in 
that release so we can highlight them separately.


Cheers,
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[libreoffice-website] Cleanup of community support page

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

As per Bjoern's ticket here: 
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1865


I've updated the community support page on our website at: 
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/


It's mostly the same text as before, but simplified, broken up into 
boxes and with Ask.LibO put first. It's more approachable than the 
previous wall of text, I reckon. If anyone has any feedback (eg should 
mailing lists also be near the top?) then please let me know!


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[libreoffice-website] Fullscreen mode for embedded videos on LO site, New Features page?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi there,

Thanks to whoever embedded my 5.1 New Features videos on here: 
http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/


We were just talking on the German list about the full-screen button 
(bottom-right) being disabled for the videos. Was this done deliberately 
for a specific reason?


It may help if viewers can switch the vids to full-screen without having 
to go via YouTube, and enabling this is a simple case of adding 
"allowfullscreen" to the "iframe" tag like this:


src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/g2_ySAlHqPo?list=PL0pdzjvYW9RHSwdRnZfaxAWICrkBrQl7k; 
width="560" height="315" frameborder="0">


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[libreoffice-website] New screenshots?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

We have some screenshots here: 
http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/


But they're all low-res and some look rather dated now. I was thinking 
of replacing them with newer, high-res shots, but wanted to check first 
in case someone else already had plans in that area.


On that same topic, should we actually have a dedicated Screenshots 
page, or include the shots themselves in the pages for the individual 
apps (Writer, Calc etc.)?


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[libreoffice-website] Proposal for "Who uses LibreOffice?" page on website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

After talking with others in the marketing team, I'd like to add a page 
to the main website highlighting how LO is being used around the world. 
The idea is to use the text below -- I just wanted to check on this list 
for any extra ideas or objections before going ahead later in the week. 
Thanks!



Who uses LibreOffice?

Tens of millions of people around the world use LibreOffice every day, 
in homes, businesses, charities and government departments. Some notable 
users include:


[French flag] MIMO, France’s inter-ministerial working group on free 
software, runs LibreOffice on almost 500,000 PCs. The software is used 
in many departments including energy, defence, agriculture and 
education.


[Spanish flag] The administration of the Spanish autonomous region of 
Valencia has installed LibreOffice on 120,000 PCs. This has provided the 
administration with IT vendor independence and reduced expenditure on 
proprietary software licenses.


[Italian flag] Italy's Ministry of Defence is transitioning to 
LibreOffice and the Open Document Format (ODF) on 150,000 PCs. The 
Ministry is developing online courses to help with the switch to 
LibreOffice.


_Download_ LibreOffice today and join the growing number of users 
getting their work done with open source and open standards.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] wrong link in governance page

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Marina,

Fixed it now!

Mike


On 26.07.2016 17:16, Marina Latini wrote:

Hi all,
In the first paragraph of[0] there is a wrong link.
"The following people have been approved by the Membership Committee
as defined in our Foundation Statutes."

"Foundation Statutes" links to
"http://www.documentfoundation.org/[sitetree_link,id=];

[0] http://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/members/

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Merchandise - be nice to see LG phone cases in the list

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Tim,

Thanks very much for your ideas and feedback -- we will take them into
account! There are some limitations with the items we can offer on our
Spreadshirt merchandise site, but they often add new products so we will
keep an eye on them.

We're really busy with the lead-up to LibreOffice 5.3 and FOSDEM at the
moment, but when we return we'll take another look at the shop.

Thanks again!

Mike



On 29/01/2017 21:45, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> 
> I looked at the Merchandise page and saw all of the iPhone and Samsung
> cases.  I have used LG phones since the 90's.  Now I use a LG phone
> "LGL41C" bought from the prepaid service called Tracfone [see the "note"
> below for info about the Tracfone service ]. So it would be nice to have
> the option to buy LG phone cases, or cases for other company's phone
> models.
> 
> Also, I wish there was a code "source" that could look at the country of
> person browsing and then figures out the current about in their local
> money - like US Dollars or Canadian Dollars, or the Mexican money
> system, etc.  A 14.99 Euro cup/mug is a little over $16.00 USD according
> to a currency exchange web site.  Yes, the issue is the fact that the
> Euro towards US dollars keep changing and may change before you actually
> have time to buy it, so the "local currency" will have to be an
> "estimate due to currency rates can change hourly".
> 
> So what do you think?  For those not part of the EU money system, this
> might be a nice added option shown.  For me, I would use PayPal to deal
> with the Euro-US Dollar rates.
> 
> To be honest, I like some of the cup/mugs and I like buying "specialty"
> tee-shirts. It could be nice to see some lower price item, like
> "refrigerator magnets" in the shape of the "document icons" used in the
> logo and the desktop link icons. I have a lot of them on my fridge door
> and the metal entry/fire door. I also have a 13x19 inch paper printout
> of the LO logo on my door. [that is the largest I can print in my
> home-office] Of course, the local "merchandise print shops" will print
> up a lot of items and styles of items using the provided image file[s].
> I have done that with a local organization I have been on the Board for
> 7 or 8 years.  Made up pencils, carrying bags, mugs, and other items
> that did not need 50 or 100+ quantities for the minimum order.
> 
> If you need any "visual" on items that might work, look at the Kiwanis
> [International] web sites. http://store.kiwanis.org/ is a good place to
> start. I buy items from there every so often.
> 
> 
> Note: For those who are not in the USA it is a very popular option who
> do not need a lot of calls, data, and text. You need to buy minutes
> every 3 months to keep the service going. For my phone I buy 60 minutes
> and I am actually buying 3 times that - 180 minutes - and get data and
> texts with the minutes.  All three roll over. I currently have the phone
> paid up till May 8th with 1758 minutes total.  I do not use this phone
> much.
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Release notes page to be updated

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Luca,

On 21/02/2017 22:47, "Luca Daghino"@Libero wrote:
>
> Just to point out the release notes page is not updated.
> Anybody can do that?

Ah yes, thanks for pointing that out. I think we had a script to
generate links on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/
that pointed to the wiki - I don't have that script, though, so I would
suggest we have just one link for 5.3 and one for 5.2. What does
everyone else think?

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spanish blog issue

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Daniel,

Yes, there's a similar problem on the English one as well -- searching
for posts by me just shows two:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/author/mikesaunders/

I think it may be to do with images in posts; I'll have a look when I
get a spare moment. Thanks for pointing it out!

Mike


On 15/01/2017 21:40, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
> Another admin noticed a small problem with the blog interface: if in an
> article you click on the author's name, instead of showing the list of all
> articles shows only the last one.
> 
> If for example you go to
> 
> Https://en.blog.documentfoundation.org/author/danielrodriguez/
> 
> You will see only my article of January 3, but none of the above. This
> happens with all authors.
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spanish blog issue

[Mike Saunders]

It looks like a display issue. Go to:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/author/mikesaunders/

And then view source; everything gets marked as a comment from line 235
onwards. The content is definitely there, but isn't being displayed as
the browser just sees it as a comment.

Hopefully it'll be a simple theme fix -- I'll have a look soon.



On 16/01/2017 14:45, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> On 16/01/2017 13:59, Mike Saunders wrote:
> 
>> I think it may be to do with images in posts; I'll have a look when I
>> get a spare moment. Thanks for pointing it out!
> 
> I have checked the configuration, but it looks it is OK. I will Google
> to see if the issue is common or not.
> 

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[libreoffice-website] Release notes on main LO website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

Someone on Facebook noted that Download > Release Notes on the main site 
is out of date:


http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

(5.1.4 is still Fresh.) Is there a tool/script we use to update that 
page with the wiki content? (Doesn't look like simply pasting HTML from 
the wiki will help.) Or I can just add links to the wiki, but I guess it 
looks more professional to have nicely formatted release notes on the 
main site.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Release notes on main LO website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the info. I've just checked with Cloph too and it looks like 
pasting HTML links from the wiki (and doing a bit of find/replace magic) 
will do the trick. I'll do it now :-)


Mike


On 08.09.2016 13:26, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello Mike,

Unfortunately we do that by hand.  There is one guy on facebook who
always complains about that but never volunteers to help :-)

Best,

Charles.

Le 8 septembre 2016 12:57:42 GMT+02:00, Mike Saunders
<mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> a écrit :

Hi,

Someone on Facebook noted that Download > Release Notes on the main
site
is out of date:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

(5.1.4 is still Fresh.) Is there a tool/script we use to update that
page with the wiki content? (Doesn't look like simply pasting HTML 
from


the wiki will help.) Or I can just add links to the wiki, but I guess
it
looks more professional to have nicely formatted release notes on the
main site.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libreoffice documents displaying / formatting very strangely and I can't correct it

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Hi Amy,

This mailing list is used for discussions about the LibreOffice website, 
and not the software itself. Also, attachments aren't allowed. To get 
help, try posting on our Ask LibreOffice site:


https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/

Thanks, and hopefully you'll get the right answer there!

Mike


On 07.09.2016 15:20, Amy Cools wrote:

To the good people at LibreOffice,

Thanks for providing a great product that's so affordable, I use it at 
home

and work and it's great!

For the last couple of months, however, I've found that LibreOffice
documents are displaying / formatting very strangely on my laptop. I've
visited forums but have not found any discussion of this particular
problem. I tried updating LibreOffice but to no avail.

Here's one of my documents attached, as an example

Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

- Amy

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Intro

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your offer of help! Christian Lohmaier (Cloph) is the best 
person to talk to about this, but he's away until next week, so I'm just 
jumping in (although I'm not especially involved in infra). It sounds 
like your skills could be helpful! You may want to look around our 
different sites (main LO site, wiki, Pootle, extensions etc.) and see if 
you find any issues - eg where something is missing, or slow, or could 
be implemented better.


There are monthly infrastructure team calls that you may want to take 
part in, and if you haven't already seen it there's also the #tdf-infra 
IRC channel that you may want to join as well. If you have experience 
with Jenkins and Gerrit, which we use as well, that'd be an extra bonus.


Cheers,
Mike


On 28.09.2016 20:36, Michael Viveros wrote:

Hi,

I’m Michael Viveros: a passionate programmer, incredibly inconsistent
golfer and sarcastically subtle joker.

I'm in my final year of Software Engineering and Management.

I have back-end experience (NodeJS, ASP.NET/C#/SQL), front-end
experience (Vue.js) and DevOps experience (build/deployment automation
with TFS).

You can read more @ michaelviveros.com .

Are there any projects I could help out with?

Michael


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[libreoffice-website] LibreOffice for Android download locations

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

Someone sent a question to i...@documentfoundation.org asking how to get 
the latest LO for Android outside of Google Play. We have this page:


https://www.libreoffice.org/download/android-viewer/

The "download the plain apk" links to v1, but there are newer versions here:

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/loviewer-v6_v7/

Is there are reason we link to the older version, or can I update the 
link? Are we OK to send people that second link, reminding them that the 
software is still in beta?


Thanks

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[libreoffice-website] LO "check for updates" in German version points to English site

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

I noticed this tweet yesterday:

"Yo @libreoffice when you click check for updates from a german 
libreoffice, why do you end up on an english download page?"


Additionally, we had a call on the TDF number from a German guy who had 
the same problem, and ended up with his interface in English. If this a 
known issue for non-EN languages, and anything we can do? Maybe point 
people here always?


https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?lang=pick

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice for Android download locations

[Mike Saunders]

Hey Cloph,

On 01/12/2016 14:21, Christian Lohmaier wrote:


v8/v9 is current version in playstore now. (also updated the mirrors now)


Awesome, thanks.


Is there are reason we link to the older version, or can I update the link?


No reason than not remembering that we have a hard link there...


OK, I've updated the link now and will keep an eye on it in the future.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Recovery of file

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jeremy,

This website@global.libreoffice.org mailing list is for discussions 
about the LibreOffice website. For technical support about LibreOffice 
itself, please see here:


https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/

Good luck!

Mike


On 29/11/2016 23:08, PARMENTIER JEREMY wrote:

Hello Miss, Mister,


(In advance sorry for my english)


I have a big problem, I am making a report. My computer is window 10 and the 
file is in the .docx form.

But I don't have the licence for writing on Word so I use your application 
LibreOffice.

Of course i saved my work like every 20 min but ... I lost my save from 3 days (i didn't 
turn off my computer just closing the screen)  I tried to open another file this 
morning and i had the option to "lancer la récupération" (strart recovery) and 
i probably said no..


But I pretty sure that I can refind it again by a backup file or something ... 
right?


Please do you have a solution ?


I look forward to your early imply .

Best regards



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[libreoffice-website] Slow LibreOffice downloads from mirrors

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

TDF got an email from someone in Germany, complaining about very slow
downloads of LO 5.3. This was also posted on Facebook:

"I am trying to download the latest version. But the speed of download
is very low. Have more people the same problem."

Someone liked that comment, and then this just came up on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/raffaelesocial/status/84381803033601

Any thoughts on what should be the cause? I've tried asking which
particular mirrors are affected and will report back when I get some info...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Slow LibreOffice downloads from mirrors

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Cloph,

Thanks for looking into this.

On 20/03/2017 18:51, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> 
> Unless we know the specific mirror: no.

OK -- I asked the people who were complaining yesterday for details, but
haven't got a response so far from them.

> Note that there was a hiccup that resulted in only a tiny fraction of
> the mirrors being listed, causing too much load on the remaining ones.

That might have been it -- since you looked at it yesterday, I haven't
seen any other messages about it on our social media channels. Fingers
crossed!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Updated the shortened release notes

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Hi Charles,

On 04/04/2017 07:24, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> 
> Someone on Twitter pointed out the shortened release notes have not been
> updated (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/)

Ah yes, we need to do that. I'm in training at the moment but I'll do it
when I'm back on Thursday, or if you want to update it in the meantime,
that'd be great - thanks!

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[libreoffice-website] Remove link to @LOcommits Twitter account

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

At the bottom of the LO website, in the social media buttons, we have a
link to this Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/LOcommits

It seems to be dormant, however, so should we remove it from the LO
site? Otherwise some visitors might assume there's not much development
activity going on...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Joining the team

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Kenneth,

On 09/08/2017 15:41, Kenneth Hanson wrote:
>
> I posted on this list once earlier, but I've been working on the TDF wiki,
> and also thinking about the relationship between the wiki, the new
> documentation
> website , and the main website, and
> how to make information easier to find.

Thanks for your contributions! There is indeed some overlap between the
websites -- sometimes deliberately, but other times just by accident.

You may be interested in joining the next infrastructure call to talk
about website issues:

https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg14838.html

The documentation team also has regular calls, as you can see in the
archives:

https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/

The Document Foundation also has a documentation coordinator -- you
could drop him a line to talk about ideas:
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org

> I'd also like to work on the website content. Could someone give me access
> and tell me how to do this?

What particularly on the website do you want to change or update?

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[libreoffice-website] No Khmer website?

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Hi,

On this page: http://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc/

There's a link to the Khmer website: http://km.libreoffice.org

But that just says "The requested page could not be found". Should we
remove the link, or is the site being worked on?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] No Khmer website?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

On 15/05/2017 15:29, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> 
> Remove the link.

OK, done.

Mike


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[libreoffice-website] Ask LibreOffice site: short explanation for why registration is required?

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Hello,

We get lots of questions about LibreOffice on our social media channels,
and I usually point people in the direction of Ask LibreOffice. However,
sometimes I get replies from people complaining that they have to
register for yet another service.

On this page (when logged out):

https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/account/signin/?next=/en/questions/ask/

Underneath "Please click any of the icons below to sign in", could we
add a short line of text like so:

"(Registration is required as a spam protection measure.)"

Or something like that. What do you think?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Use HTTPS URLs in announcements and blog posts

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

I've updated all the links to be HTTPS, and we'll make sure to only use
HTTPS in the future.

Mike


On 05/09/2017 09:40, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> Paul Menzel wrote:
>> The article *The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 5.4.1 “fresh” and
>> LibreOffice 5.3.6 “still”* [1] uses insecure HTTP URLs instead of the more
>> secure HTTPS URLs. Could the article and the templates please be updated?
>>
>> If this is the wrong forum, please tell me where to report such issues.
>>
> I think the website list is a better place to ask for this. Cc-ed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Thorsten
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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice being downloaded with .man rather than .msi extension

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Hi,

Just a quick follow-up -- this seems to have been fixed for now, as
we're not getting any more questions about this particular issue.
Thanks! Will post here if it comes up again :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Various small website update ideas

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

Something else for the list: someone on Twitter pointed out that various
links on our download page are to HTTP, rather than HTTPS:

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/

For instance, Torrent, Info, Translated User Interface. I can change
those to HTTPS if nobody objects...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

I think I'm making some progress on the website font issue. I'm using
our "newdesign" server for testing, and I've self-hosted Lato2. In
addition, I've pasted bits of text from the Slovene and Lithuanian
websites, which were broken before, into the "Free Office Suite" and
"Fun Project" sections when you scroll down:

http://newdesign.libreoffice.org

With the most recent Lato2, this appears to work for me in Linux,
whereas with the Lato2 from Google it looks odd as we previously
discussed. Can you confirm how it looks to you please?

If this works, we can consider hosting Lato2 ourselves, but that's a
bigger step...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

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On 14/12/2017 16:06, Antanas Budriūnas wrote:
>
>I see a progress. There doesn't occur *ė* nor *ū* in the text, but *č*
> and *ų* are in a good shape :)

OK, I've added some more text to http://newdesign.libreoffice.org --
including those characters. How about now? As a comparison, here's how
it looks for me in Firefox/Linux:

https://i.imgur.com/2E8RJOB.png

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[libreoffice-website] Various small website update ideas

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

Here are a few ideas I've been collecting in recent months -- just small
tweaks we could make to the main LibreOffice website. Any thoughts on them?

* Discover menu: next to Writer, Calc, Impress etc. should we say what
they do? Like "Writer - word processor"

* http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/ -- add some
screenshots here

* http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/ -- do we need that
big green image at the top? It doesn't seem to have much meaning

* Also on that page: do we need the collapsible headings? At least in
Firefox, they sometimes get lost behind the floating top panel when you
click on them

* http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/templates-and-extensions/ -- as
there are only two sections there, we can probably remove the
collapsible code as well and just have them static

* http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/ -- should we make the
screenshots open in a new tab

* http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/install-howto/ -- change Mac OS X
to macOS (probably need to keep a redirect here though, to stop breakage
in other sites that link to this page)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

I'm investigating this issue now, which is also being tracked on Redmine
here:

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/412

On 18/09/2017 13:30, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> 
> I would ask the same for the Slovenian website (sl.libreoffice.org),
> because 蚞ȊŽ are not part of Lato and thus those characters get rendered
> in another font which if pure ugly.

Martin, is this still the case? Here's how the download page looks for
me on macOS:

https://i.imgur.com/Tts9Ebu.png

It seems that č/c and š/s are the same font now, unless my eyes deceive
me! Antanas, do you still have the same problem with LT as well?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Re: Fwd: libreoffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Raal,

On 31/10/2017 17:46, raal wrote:
> Hello
> " https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/calc/ 
>  Excel at Excel -> sentence " created with Microsoft Office 2007 for 
>  Windows or Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac OS X." 
>   ->  we can open newer versions  too -  excel 2010, 13, 16 

Good point -- I've updated the text to say:

"Calc can read .xlsx files created with Microsoft Office for Windows and
macOS."

>  https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/ 
> -  old version 5.4.1 mentioned

I've updated that too. The page had links saying "Click here for the
release notes" pointing to the wiki, but it's already on a page called
"Release notes" so it looks a bit complicated. Instead I've changed the
links to:

"Click here to learn about the new features in LibreOffice 5.4"

And the same for 5.3.

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Antanas,

On 04/12/2017 07:16, Antanas Budriūnas wrote:
>
> OS: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS x86_64,
> Browsers: Google Chrome 62.0.3202.94, Firefox Quantum 57.0.1

Thanks for the info -- I've added it to the ticket:

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/412

> I'm attaching FF screenshot which looks a bit different.
> You can realize that there is no bold effect but another close-looking font.

It looks like this list doesn't support attachments, but if you send it
to me directly I can check, thanks!

This is a strange problem to pin down...

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

[Mike Saunders]

Actually, check this out:

* Screenshot from Antanas: https://i.imgur.com/xS6uAGu.png

* Screenshot from me (macOS): https://i.imgur.com/67akhXw.png

So for Antanas certain characters look odd (they appear to be rendered
in bold) but it doesn't affect me. Antanas, what browser and OS
combination are you using?

Can anyone else confirm if they get the odd bold letters on
http://lt.libreoffice.org ?

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] NL website default font

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On 04/12/2017 11:38, Antanas Budriūnas wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot about it. Here is the screenshot –
> https://imgur.com/0a3Rgo3

Ah, thanks. So to be sure, the problem is with these letters, right?

ž č ų ū

To me, they look slightly out of shape or a bit larger than the other
text, especially the "ū" in "kultūra" and other words. Is that what you
mean?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] website Discover -> Impress

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Raal,

On 29/10/2017 10:48, Raal wrote:
> 
> section Rich content for outstanding presentations
> Impress has a comprehensive range of easy-to-use drawing and diagramming
> tools to add style and sophistication to your presentation.
> 
> section A touch of creativity
> Impress has a comprehensive range of easy-to-use drawing and diagramming
> tools to add style and sophistication to your presentation.
> 
> The sentences are identical. Please change it, looks weird.

Good find -- thanks for letting us know! I've fixed it now.

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-website] LibreOffice being downloaded with .man rather than .msi extension

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

We're seeing more and more questions/complaints about this on social
media and our download@ address. I assumed it was purely a problem with
IE/Edge browsers, but after reading this:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53241

It looks like a problem with certain mirrors. Is there anything we can
do to fix this? I'm worried that for every one message we hear from end
users about this, another 10 simply give up trying to install it and use
something else!

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[libreoffice-website] Fwd: planet.documentfoundation.org

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

Can someone with admin rights for planet.documentfoundation.org please
add Andreas' blog?

Thanks!

Mike



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:planet.documentfoundation.org
Date:   Wed, 23 May 2018 00:26:19 +0200
From:   kainz.a 
To: i...@documentfoundation.org



Hi,

I'd like to add my new and LibreOffice only blog to the planet:

https://colibreoffice.wordpress.com/

in my other blog post (http://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/) which is
already linked to the LibreOffice planet, I also post kde specific stuff
so I would prefer to have only the colibreoffice.wordpress blog linked
to the planet.

thanks
Andreas Kainz

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Website updates for LibreOffice 6.0 release

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Hi Charles,

On 30/01/2018 08:29, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> 
> Looks good to me , do have we a special start screen for the homepage?

Yes, Italo and Cloph are working on that right now.

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Website updates for LibreOffice 6.0 release

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Sophie, Daniel, everyone.

On 29/01/2018 17:57, Sophie wrote:
>
>> * Update the text on https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/
> 
> And yes please, if you could post the html file for new features and
> releases notes here and on marketing private, it would be great :)

Sure - here's the HTML for translations:

https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/LO-60-new-features-page-updates.txt

Note that the video URL hasn't been updated yet as it's still not
public, but I'll put that on the list tomorrow!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Putting "Join us" page as top-level menu item?

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Ilmari, everyone,

On 31/01/2018 14:01, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> 
> I proposed the change based on feedback received last year. Now that I
> thought about it again, it might just be enough to change "Get involved"
> to "Volunteer work" to achieve the original purpose of clarifying the
> wording.

I'd be a bit cautious about putting the word "work" in there. For those
people who contribute to the project in their spare time, and do
"normal" work during the day, we don't want to suggest that it's further
work on their pile :-)

And ideally, it should be fun, stimulating and fulfilling to get
involved with the project. So it shouldn't seem like "work" at all (even
though obviously some tasks are a bit laborious).

Also I think it's useful to have an active verb there at the start -- a
call do action, like "get" or "do" or "join" or something like that. At
least in the magazine world, we were always encouraged to use them...

Just my 2 cents however -- what do others think?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] 6.0 release sys requirements on website

[Mike Saunders]

hi Core,

On 31/01/2018 12:28, Cor Nouws wrote:
> 
> Version 6.0 does not support installation on Windows XP and Vista.
> Probably this info is useful for the page
>   https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Yes, good point -- I've updated the text, and also for the macOS section
as well (as LO 6.0 needs macOS 10.9 or newer).

Good work on the release, everyone!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] l10n of LO website(s)

[Mike Saunders]

Hello,

On 13/02/2018 12:32, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> 
> I thought Mike had achieved some good progress here around Christmas by
> choosing some slightly different font or so; I'll check with him where
> we stand and get back to you ASAP.

Indeed, I was working on this and it fell down the TODO list a bit with
LibreOffice 6.0 and FOSDEM. Sorry for that. The ticket is here:

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/412

In short: the website currently uses the Lato font, and using Google's
hosted Lato2 doesn't help either. But if we use our own, self-hosted
Lato2, it appears to fix the problems (at least with Slovene and
Lithuanian).

Scroll down here to "Prost, odprt pisarniški paket":

http://newdesign.libreoffice.org

I pasted in Slovene and Lithuanian text and it appears to be fine in
various browsers. If there are no other objections, I can make the change...

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] l10n of LO website(s)

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Martin,

On 08/02/2018 12:42, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> 
> Please someone take care of these issues - if l10n and localized websites
> are of any priority to the website team.
> 
> Internet and web are about being prompt and there seems to be a problem
> with handling the website l10n side at LO/TDF.

Just to say, thanks for bringing up these issues -- I appreciate some of
them have been on the table for a while. I'm going to meet Cloph soon
and learn more about Silverstripe, Pootle and other topics relating to
these issues, so hopefully I can tackle some of them in due time.

And as mentioned, I'll deploy Leto2 on the main site too. Thanks again
for all your localisation work!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] l10n of LO website(s)

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Martin, Antanas,

OK, I've finally switched the LibreOffice website to use self-hosted
Lato2 font, rather than getting it remotely from Google's servers. It
appears to have fixed the problems with Lithuanian and Slovene, but can
you check and let me know please?

In case it needs to be reverted, I made a note of the changes I made in
the ticket here:

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/412

Cheers,
Mike


On 13/02/2018 16:26, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Hi, Antanas,
> 
> 2018-02-13 16:24 GMT+01:00 Antanas Budriūnas :
> 
>>
>>> A while ago Mike said he is planning to incorporate new version of the
>> Lato2 font into production site(s) globally but it is not yet done (as I
>> understand).
>> The http://newdesign.libreoffice.org example only demonstrates
>> self-hosted (on 'newdesign' server) new version of the Lato2 font which
>> fixes issues.
>>
>>
> That's what I wrote, it seems to work for Slovenian, and if cannot be
> enabled on the whole site it can be (for the time being) enabled and tested
> on the live Slovenian site (if possible).
> 
> Lp, m.
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-website] 6.0 release sys requirements on website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean-Baptiste,

On 23/02/2018 10:58, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> 
> Wrong info is at the bottom of the download webpage too:
> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/

Hmm, yes -- I'm not sure where those lines are defined though (they
don't appear to be available in the regular SilverStripe admin
interface. Anyone know where they can be changed?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

On 13/08/2018 15:15, Jean Spiteri wrote:
> 
> If you want to see what is the output of the proposal, please visit
> newdesign.libreoffice.org. On top of the green menu bar, there should be a
> black banner with some text on it. The actual proposal is that the banner is
> seen only by those who have set a primary language other than English (US)
> in their browser.

Thanks for looking into this! Yes, I totally agree that we need to make
the other language sites more prominent. We often get emails to info@
from non-English speakers who try their best to give feedback or ask
questions, but don't know that there's a whole LibreOffice site in their
language.

I think the banner is OK, but it does push the rest of the content down
a bit. Is there any way to add a "Dismiss" button so that it's not shown
again to people who don't want to change?

Another alternative would be to have an extra menu on the right-hand
side, after donate, with a UK/USA flag for the English site. This would
keep it nice and small, and could have other flags in the drop-down list
underneath. Not sure how easy that is to implement, though!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Sophie,

On 13/08/2018 16:08, sophi wrote:
> 
> I don't think we want to use flags as it's about countries and not
> languages, we have always tried to avoid them as it could lead to some
> issues.

Ah yes, that's a very good point actually. One other option for a small
menu icon would be the Wikipedia mobile site approach:

https://i.imgur.com/MNBHqnj.png

That icon under the title opens up a list of languages. But maybe it's
familiar to regular Wikipedia users, but wouldn't be so effective on the
LibreOffice site for newcomers...

Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Download page: changing "Mac OS X" to "macOS"

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

On this page: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/

We still say "Mac OS X", although Apple rebranded it to "macOS" back in
2016. Shall I update it? I can change the names in
mysite/code/DownloadObject.php, but I just wanted to check first in case
it breaks anything. (I very much doubt it -- just being super cautious!)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changes to the Download pages

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

Apologies for not replying to this sooner...

On 13/08/2018 15:35, Jean Spiteri wrote:
> 
> My work can be divided in three tasks
> 
> 1.Created a new page named "LibreOffice Impress Remote" and put it as a
> child of the Download. Thus, it can be seen in the Download menu as well.
> 2.I have renamed the "Android and iOS" page to "LibreOffice Viewer for
> Android".
> 3.I have removed the Impress Remote download links from that page and
> changed the text to lead to the new page.
> 
> I am looking forward for feedback. If this is positive, the changes could be
> published soon. Thank you. 

Those changes sound good to me, and I agree that we should make our
mobile apps more prominent! Do you need any help implementing the
changes, or is it just a case of clicking "Publish" to go live?

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] NLP websites: wrong link to Bugzilla

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Sophie,

On 28/08/2018 14:06, sophi wrote:
> 
> Could you check on your site that on the QA page, the link to Bugzilla
> is this one:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
> instead of
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/
> and correct if needed.

Sure, I was just doing some work on the site so I've updated the German
page: https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/

"einen Fehler melden" (report a bug) now links to the longer URL that
you provided.

Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Updated the website with hi-res logos

[Mike Saunders]

Hello,

I've noticed for a while that on hi-DPI displays, some parts of the
LibreOffice website look a bit blurry (eg the logo in the top left). So
I've updated a few assets with hi-res versions. For instance:

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/

* Logo in the top-left
* Logo in the download box
* Arrow icon in the top-right of the download box

I've tested the changes in various browsers and all looks fine, but just
let me know if there are any issues! And also if there are any other
low-res assets that we can update...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Changes to the Download pages

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

On 22/08/2018 18:38, Jean Spiteri wrote:
>
> No, they required only clicking "Publish" to do so I did that.

Looks great, thanks!

> I have also set the primary "Download LibreOffice Viewer for Android" button
> to take the whole of the "page" (excluding the sidebar) and adjusted the
> button text to align to the button's center. 

Yes, good idea.

> Finally, I have changed the video iframe to take up 90% of the "page" width
> while keeping it to the same height as it was. It still aligns itself to the
> center of the page. 

I think this looks fine when the video isn't active, but when you click
play, suddenly the large black borders on the left and right appear.
Maybe make it a little bit taller to shrink the borders?

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Events page banners

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

On 17/03/2018 10:29, Raal wrote:
> 
> banners on page https://www.libreoffice.org/events/ point to old events.
> Please upload new banners.

The banners are made by volunteers, so if anyone wants to contribute any
newer ones for upcoming events, we can add them :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Incorrect macOS requirement on website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi William,

Thanks for pointing that out -- I've updated/fixed the requirements on
the English, French, German, Italian and Spanish pages. If other people
handling other languages could check and update as well, that'd be
great, thanks! (Also, "Mac OS X" is the old name, and ideally we should
use "macOS" now.)

Cheers,
Mike


On 01/11/2018 19:38, William Gathoye wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Since LibreOffice 6.0, the macOS requirements have been bumped to macOS
> 10.9 (aka Mavericks) [1].
> 
> However, on the website [2], this is written macOS 10.9 (Mountain Lion).
> Mountain Lion was version 10.8. 10.9 is Mavericks. Please correct to
> Mavericks instead.
> 
> On the French website, this is still 10.8 (other pieces of info are
> outdated as well).
> 
> Also, I hereby ask you to get accesses to the Silverstripe French
> website. Sometimes, Sophie and JB Faure have too much work and being
> able to fix issues like this would avoid them unneeded burden.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> (Ps.: I'm not subscribed to the list, please put me in cc).
> 
> [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/6.0#macOS
> 
> [2] https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
> 
> [3] https://fr.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
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Re: [libreoffice-website] libreoffice-timeline

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Raal,

On 05/01/2019 18:23, Raal wrote:
>
> The LibreOffice Conference in Tirana is missing on this page
> https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-timeline/ . Please add it.

Ah yes, thanks for pointing that out. I've added a link now, and
embedded the great video that the local community made.

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Disabling social icons in the blog

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Daniel,

On 13/09/2018 22:42, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> Just posted the announcement about 6.1.1 in the hispanic blog and now only
> that post has social icons that previous ones haven't. Was looking around
> about howto disable them without luck.

Can you provide a link to the blog please, so I can take a look?

Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Changes to LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

On 11/09/2018 17:02, Jean Spiteri wrote:
> 
> *1. Slight darkening of carousel background in home page (Redmine Task 2589
> )*
> As can be read in the ticket, the white text can sometimes be less visible
> because of insufficient contrast with the background. The proposed change
> applies a slightly darker background to make the text more visible.

I definitely agree with this. I think the pen image is OK, but the
following two images clash with the white text somewhat. I was going to
look at editing the images to improve the contrast, but your CSS
solution looks more elegant. If you like (and nobody disagrees), I can
add the CSS...

Thanks for your help with this!

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] WhatCanIDoForLibreOffice hosting at TDF

[Mike Saunders]

Hi all,

On 20/03/2019 02:00, Guilhem Moulin wrote:
> 
> Oh nice, I didn't realize it was a collection of static pages.  It's
> probably overkill to deploy a dedicated VM for that, so if we're gonna
> host that on our infra I suggest vm161 or vm168 (alongside with blog or
> the main website).  That'll only work if the infra team takes care of
> updates to the production site though, but I guess it's reasonable.
> 
> Could you suggest a (sub)domain though? :-)

I believe we have www.whatcanidoforlibreoffice.org already, right?
Presumably we can host it on vm168, like the main site, but make that
domain point to it, right? (I don't know much about DNS!)

> but that file is also checked in under ‘media/img/Libocon_moments_2.jpg’,
> so I guess it's not intentional.  Is it possible to remove other third-party
> requests, too? :-)  (AFAICT it's only https://fonts.googleapis.com/css .)

On the main site, we host some things locally, like the Lato fonts, eg:



Sidorela, anything else you need from us? Or can I just take the latest
website HTML/CSS from Git, put it in a folder on the main website, and
Guilhem sorts out the domain?

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue: Menu area on the top too big

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Michael,

On 26/02/2019 00:11, Michael Wolf wrote:
> 
> there must be a line break or a hidden object in the navbar. Libreoffice
> Logo and menu bar should be in the same line.

I think it's just because the words in the menu are quite long, so the
menu becomes wider than the logo. If I do "inspect element" in Firefox,
for instance, and replace "Zhromadźenstwo" with "Z", then the menu is
shorter and goes alongside the logo as usual.

My suggestion is: remove "Startowa strona" from the menu. It's not
required (for instance, the EN and FR sites don't have it, and their
menus begin with "Discover"). Also, the LibreOffice logo goes back to
the start page anyway.

What do you think? If you really want to keep "Startowa strona", we can
look at tweaking the CSS, but that might be a bigger job!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue: Menu area on the top too big

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Michael,

On 25/02/2019 15:32, Michael Wolf wrote:
> 
> I'm the translator fur Upper Sorbian (hsb) and Lower Sorbian (dsb).

Thanks for all your work here!

> Please find a screenshot attached.

Screenshots are stripped from this list, but maybe you could put it on
imgur.com or another hosting site? I'm trying to see what you mean...

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Official LibreOffice Twitter account missing

[Mike Saunders]

Hi William,

On 11/03/2019 01:38, William Gathoye wrote:
> 
> Either I'm blind, but I haven't been able to see the official
> @LibreOffice listed under the Twitter section on the wiki [1]

Added now -- thanks for pointing it out!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Call for Feedback - Maps

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

Thanks a lot for your work on this -- and to William for his feedback! I
see you've already fixed a couple of things; here's my feedback:
> William Gathoye wrote
>>  2. The date is the date until which we want to appear, not the date
>> when we started contributing to LibreOffice. "Date" alone is not
>> meaningful.
> 
> The Date field is intended for the events map type of map. As explained
> better below, the  test map is accommodating 2 scenarios, contributor and
> events map. When you see it in the aspect of an events map, Date makes
> sense. When in contributors "mode", Date will not be visible but will be set
> automatically to 1 year from verification (to be extended by the user
> through email if he wants). 

I would prefer 2+ years, or even more. Some people come and go in the
project, so it's good for a map to show how diverse and worldwide the
community is, even if it includes people who haven't directly been
active in the last 12 months.

Meanwhile, I had an issue with the image:

https://i.imgur.com/8rptehC.png

This is on https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/community/maps/ -- the
"Buzea Bogdan" entry for Romania. It seems the link URL and image have
both been shortened somewhere on the way... Is that fixable?

Otherwise, it's looking really good -- let's test it a bit more, and
then look at rolling it out, if there are no other issues!

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Call for Feedback - Maps

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Jean,

On 19/06/2019 17:00, Jean Spiteri wrote:
>> For example, is the entry popup good or should the picture be on the left
> and text on the
> right (ID card style)? Also picture should be square or rectangle? That
> sort of things.

I think the layout is fine, but make the picture width 100 or 150, and
remove the hight element (otherwise it forces all pictures to be a
certain ratio, which doesn't work). In my map here:

https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/contributor-map.html

...I specify a width of 100, but no height, so the browser does that
automatically.

Also, I would suggest a preset zoom level. If you see my map, it shows
almost all land on the world (except for some parts right on the edges).
The code that does it in my map is:

var mymap = L.map('mapid').setView([28.505, 16.09], 13);

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Clickability of "Download" buttons

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Petro,

On 16/05/2019 09:05, Petro Ding wrote:
>
> In www.libreoffice.org/download/download/, the two yellow download 
> buttons are unclickable; only the texts on them are. This issue is 
> particularly obvious in zh-cn.libreoffice.org/download/download-test/, 
> which may confuse users. Could someone make these two buttons clickable? 

Thanks for the feedback -- I've now put the  tags around the 
for the button, so the whole thing is clickable now. Does that work better?

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Certified Developer/Training page typo

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Hi Drew,

On 04/07/2019 16:37, Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Looking over the page at
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/ found a type for
> the Collabora entry under the Certified Trainer section. There is a couple
> of numbers at the end of that entry with a link to an email address in the
> company - I think it was ment to be something more then 17 as text.

Ah yep, well spotted -- it looks like it's supposed to be for Kendy, but
maybe it was meant to be removed somehow. I'll check with Collabora and
fix it accordingly!

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[libreoffice-website] Update on the LibreOffice Extensions and Templates website

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Hi everyone,

As you know, we have a website hosting extensions and templates at
https://extensions.libreoffice.org. There are currently 380 extensions
and 398 templates - and we really appreciate the help of community
members who've created them.

The current Plone-based extensions and templates website has served us
well over the years, and we'd like to express a special thanks to
Andreas Mantke for creating the site and maintaining it over all these
years, investing lots of work and effort into this. Thanks a lot!

As we look into the long term, we aim to further improve the user
experience, localization and connection to our single sign-on (SSO)
service. In other words, we want to build a website that's super
friendly for both users and extension/template creators, and which can
be translated easily, because one of our goals is reaching as many
people in the world as possible, in as many languages as possible.

We had previously announced that we were investigating OCS as a
solution. OCS has many strengths, but it also has some limitations in
terms of self-hosting and localisation. Therefore we decided to keep
looking for other options that would also integrate with our single
sign-on system.

To this end, we've decided to build a new extensions and templates
website based on SilverStripe. As you may know, SilverStripe is the
content management system we use for the main LibreOffice website. It's
mature, flexible and provides many of the features we need.

Our infra team has been working on a demo SilverStripe-based website
with the basic functionality for uploading, administering and
downloading extensions and templates. There's more work to be done, but
we think this is the best solution in the long-run. In the coming weeks,
we hope to open up the website for more testing, polishing and
translations, and then make it live for everyone to use.

We'll post more on these lists when it's ready for testing!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/ -> 6.1.2

[Mike Saunders]

Hi,

On 10/08/2019 12:35, Raal wrote:
>
> please update release-notes page, actual version is 6.3/6.2.5

Done!

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Websites in various languages that need updating

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Mihkel,

On 20/10/2019 22:14, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:
> 
> What do I need to do to update the design of the site for my language?

Thanks for offering to update the Estonian page! Looking at the
SilverStripe admin interface, I can only see pages in English, so I'm
not sure how to switch this I'm afraid. But let me poke the infra team
who should have the technical know-how...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Martin,

On 15/11/2019 22:31, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> 
> did anyone ask what the l10n teams want?

Well, that's why we posted on the list here before implementing, to get
valuable feedback!

> Will getting four or five other languages into that bar really help anyone?

It will help those people who don't know that the LibreOffice website
exists in other languages, surely. We get regular feedback and social
media comments asking why the LibreOffice website isn't in French,
German etc. A banner at the top listing some languages should help in
this respect...

> In 2019 the browsers can, if the users do not surf anonymously, detect what
> country the click comes from, so why not redirecting the user to that
> language or set of languages in that region, if site(s) exist(s)?

Sure, if someone wants to implement that, go ahead! I don't have the
knowledge to do it, but I want to at least partially solve the
aforementioned problem, and the proposal on
https://newdesign.libreoffice.org does that IMHO.

I believe it's better to roll it out now and then possibly upgrade it
with a more sophisticated solution later, like you mention. But
otherwise we could just do nothing for a while until someone codes that
solution. I take the "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good"
approach -- let's get something implemented now, even if it's not the
most sophisticated, rather than just waiting.

That's just my 2C of course :-)

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

On 15/11/2019 17:20, William Gathoye wrote:
> 
> I visit libreoffice.org and I have an user-agent with "fr", the banner
> will be displayed and *in French* it will be displayed:
> 
> "Your computer is defined in French, would you like to switch to the
> French website? [DROP DOWN MENU]   [CONTINUE BUTTON]"

OK, makes sense -- but then we'd need to get this string translated into
all the languages. With the "English | 中文 (简体) | Deutsch | Español |
Français | Italiano | More..." approach, we can just get it online ASAP.
The only word that needs translating is "More" but it's not critical.
> I'm available if you need webdevs :)

If you'd like to work on an alternative design, cool, go ahead :-) I
like your idea, but Jean's implementation (as on newdesign) is available
right now, and is one fix for the issue of people not knowing that there
are other websites in other languages. That's why I'd like to deploy it
ASAP, but we can of course work on other solutions in parallel!

I'm not a web dev so I'm not super familiar with how it all works, but
if you want access to newdesign to test, I'm sure infra can grant you
the necessary magic powers :-)

Have a good weekend!
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

On 15/11/2019 15:45, William Gathoye wrote:
>
> +1 for the idea of having simply a link leading to the NLC page.

Do you mean, some text like "Click here to view this site in other
languages?" I'm not sure if that's the best approach -- it's just some
more generic text on the page that visitors' eyes may skip over.

With a few clear language names, like on
https://newdesign.libreoffice.org, it stands out and is immediately
clear what it does. And we don't need to put so much work into
translating the other string into so many languages.

> Listing languages on that bar is
> 
>   * not working nicely on mobile devices, especially portrait mode (like
> already specified)

I just checked https://newdesign.libreoffice.org and it works fine on
mobile; sure, it takes up a bit of extra space at the top, but it's easy
to use. Perhaps we could make it smaller, but we should also bear in
mind that 96% of visits to the LibreOffice website are on desktop
devices -- only 4% on mobile.

>   * some users may complain "with is language X appearing before that one"

Yeah, I thought about that too -- but we can make the case that we can
only show a handful of languages given space constraints, and it makes
sense to put the busiest sites first. There is the "More" link to show
them all, so it's not like we're hiding any of the others.

Other projects take this approach. Look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice for example (at least, in a
desktop browser) -- in the "Languages" section on the left, it shows
only a small selection, and you have to click "61 more" to show the rest.

(I'm not sure how Wikipedia generates that list of "Suggested
languages"; I was happy to see Bavarian up the top, but the page is
realy small compared to the Portiguese one, which is tucked away under
"More". Maybe it's based on location?)

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Problem with recurring donations?

[Mike Saunders]

On 04/11/2019 18:33, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> 
> what confuses me is that the problem has grown a lot (it seems) since we
> also offer Stripe for recurring payments. It could be a coincidence, but
> it is really weird...

I just went through most of the Stripe process, and it says "Subscribe
to Donation to The Document Foundation - X per month" and then with a
separate "Subscribe" button, so it should be clear there too.

But I wonder: on our site we say "Recurring payment", and on Stripe they
call it a "subscription", so maybe we should use the same wording?

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Problem with recurring donations?

[Mike Saunders]

Hello,

On 04/11/2019 09:32, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>
> I have no real explanation so far, because the
> page layout didn't change a lot, neither did the texts.
> 
> I am wondering if we can make the recurring bit a more
> prominent/emphasized, e.g. in bold writing.

It's already in bold in the title bit, although we could make that
bigger. And then it says "recurring" in the drop down list too. So
basically, those people who make the mistake manage to somehow miss the
"recurring" word twice...

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[libreoffice-website] TDF Mastodon instance?

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

I've had a request from a native-language project to set up a TDF
Mastodon instance. As you may have seen, we currently use Fosstodon for
@libreoffice in English, which works well:

https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice

However, Fosstodon is English-only, so perhaps a TDF instance would be
good to get other native-language projects on board, all in the same
place. What do you think?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

[Mike Saunders]

On 02/12/2019 19:22, Luca Daghino @ Libero wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
> 
> Thank you for pointing out, we'll update as soon as possible.

Great, thanks Luca!

> PS... german version in your second link ;)

Ooof... Sorry, I would blame lack of coffee but it was already 13:40 :D

Here's the English link:

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

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[libreoffice-website] How to handle blog posts that contain out-of-date information

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Hello,

Someone pointed out that a few blog posts with technical details about
building LibreOffice are a bit out-of-date now, eg:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2019/07/09/start-developing-libreoffice-download-the-source-code-and-build-on-windows/

However, many people reach these pages from search engines, so we don't
just want to delete them completely.

I can add a big yellow banner at the top saying "This information has
been superceded by the guide in the wiki" and point people there, but I
just wanted to check what others think, in case there are better ideas!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Use of Windows 7/8/10 (XX bits) instead of Windows (x86|x86_64) on download page

[Mike Saunders]

OK, I've updated the download page so that the options in the "Choose
your operating system" box now say "32 bit" and "64 bit" instead of
"x86" and "x86_64". I've also changed "Mac OS X" to "macOS".

These are just the short names so it shouldn't affect anything -- I've
tested all the downloads and all seems fine, but let me know if anything
else needs changing!

We did talk about changing "Windows" to "Windows 7/8/10", but I need to
find out when the longer descriptions (function NicePlatform() in
DownloadObject.php) are used...


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spelling error on downloads page

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Marc,

On 29/10/2019 09:44, Marc Paré wrote:
>
> Try here:
> http://parentreprise.com/images/LibreOffice/LibreOffice-Download-Screenshot-SpellingError-buiit-in-help.png

I'm also a bit confused by this -- in the green box there, it says
"built-in"...

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[libreoffice-website] Websites in various languages that need updating

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

I've gone through various language versions of our website, and made a
list of those that are using the older design. If anyone would like to
give us a hand and update them, we'd really appreciate it! That's a
great way to help the project and spread the word.

I can also reach out via the blog and social media for help here too,
but I wanted to start on our own lists. So, the sites:


Arabic: https://ar.libreoffice.org

Bodo: https://brx.libreoffice.org

Bulgarian: https://bg.libreoffice.org

Catalan: https://ca.libreoffice.org

Danish: https://da.libreoffice.org

Esperanto: https://eo.libreoffice.org

Estonian: https://et.libreoffice.org

Farsi: https://fa.libreoffice.org

Gaelic: https://ga.libreoffice.org

Greek: https://el.libreoffice.org

Scottish Gaelic: https://gd.libreoffice.org

Galician: https://gl.libreoffice.org

Hungarian: https://hu.libreoffice.org

Georgian: https://ka.libreoffice.org

Khmer: https://km.libreoffice.org

Lao: https://lo.libreoffice.org (doesn't appear to be translated at all
- it's just English)

Maltese: https://mt.libreoffice.org

Occitan: https://oc.libreoffice.org

Polish: https://pl.libreoffice.org

Russian: https://ru.libreoffice.org

Sinhala: https://si.libreoffice.org

Slovak: https://sk.libreoffice.org

Serbian: https://sr.libreoffice.org

Swedish: https://sv.libreoffice.org

Vietnamese: https://vi.libreoffice.org


Additional note: https://no.libreoffice.org is using the new design, but
is almost entirely in English

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Surveys software

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Daniel,

On 20/11/2019 11:45, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Do we have some survey software hosted in TDF's infra?

We do indeed, as Guilhem mentioned. If you're interested in running a
survey, please keep me in the loop too -- I know that Heiko from the
Design and German projects has been thinking about doing another survey,
so perhaps we could share ideas/experiences...

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibO 6.2's system requirements for macOS (Mac OS X)

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Takeshi,

On 26/11/2019 07:17, Takeshi Abe wrote:
> 
> "Apple macOS (Mac OS X)" section of LibO's system requirements page [1]
> says:
>> LibreOffice 6.2.x: macOS 10.9 (Mountain Lion) or higher
> but macOS 10.9 is actually called Mavericks [2].
> Is it cosidered a typo?

Ahh, thanks for pointing that out -- it is indeed a mistake, seemingly
across multiple language versions of the site! I've corrected and
updated these sites, as I can understand enough language to do it:

* English
* German
* French
* Italian
* Spanish
* Slovene

...but I'll also ask the localisation community to check their sites,
and make sure that the differences between LibreOffice 6.2 and 6.3 are
shown as well.

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-website] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

An Italian LibreOffice user on Facebook asked me if the software works
on Windows 10. I saw that the system requirements page here doesn't
mention Windows 10 (or Windows Server 2012):

https://it.libreoffice.org/supporto/requisiti-sistema/

If maintainers of native-lang sites can check that the requirements are
up-to-date, that'd be super appreciated :-) Here's the English version
for reference:

https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

On 21/10/2019 09:54, William Gathoye wrote:
> 
> *Please* don't use a drop down menu to change languages. Besides being
> old school, this is not really efficient on mobile because this implies
> a scroll view in a scroll view when the drop down menu is too long for
> the screen height.

I agree -- we don't plan to use a drop-down list, but a few examples and
then a "More" button, like at the top of:

https://newdesign.libreoffice.org

Clicking "More" takes you to https://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc
-- so a dedicated page with languages and websites.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Use of Windows 7/8/10 (XX bits) instead of Windows (x86|x86_64) on download page

[Mike Saunders]

On 21/10/2019 10:06, William Gathoye wrote:
> 
> On 16/10/2019 16:03, Mike Saunders wrote:
>> OK, I've updated the download page so that the options in the "Choose
>> your operating system" box now say "32 bit" and "64 bit" instead of
>> "x86" and "x86_64". I've also changed "Mac OS X" to "macOS".
> 
> Super, thanks!
> 
> Just my obsessive mind, but we have two variants here: 64-bit and 64 bit
> (with dash and with space).
> 
> Could you standardize with "64-bit" and "32-bit"? So with a dash and
> without "s" to the end?

Ah yep, good point -- I've standardised them now :-)

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

On 31/10/2019 10:21, Mike Saunders wrote:
> 
> I agree -- we don't plan to use a drop-down list, but a few examples and
> then a "More" button, like at the top of:
> 
> https://newdesign.libreoffice.org
> 
> Clicking "More" takes you to https://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc
> -- so a dedicated page with languages and websites.

Oh and just to update -- to implement this on the main website, we need
to add something to Page_Controller.php; I don't have the rights to do
it, but I've asked infra, so when that's done we can roll it out!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Use of Windows 7/8/10 (XX bits) instead of Windows (x86|x86_64) on download page

[Mike Saunders]

Hi William,

On 08/10/2019 17:43, William Gathoye wrote:
> 
> Windows advertises Windows 64 bits and never speaks about x86_64 in the
> About section of Windows. Could we therefore change in favor of the
> following terms instead ? They have the advantage to display and remind
> the versions we support.
> 
>   * Windows 7/8/10 (32 bits)
>   * Windows 7/8/10 (64 bits)

I agree with this change -- good idea. We also need to change "Mac OS X"
to "macOS". It looks like these names are defined in
mysite/code/DownloadObject.php, eg:

case "win/x86_64" : return "Windows x86_64"; break;
case "mac/x86_64" : return "Mac OS X x86_64"; break;

So I can make the changes myself -- but I just want to check in case it
breaks anything.

Cloph, is it OK to change these?

Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Banner for switching languages on the LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hello,

From some of the feedback we get, many people think the LibreOffice
website is only available in English; they don't that there are
translations in many other languages.

To improve this, Jean Spiteri and I have worked on an idea -- check out
the black banner at the top of:

https://newdesign.libreoffice.org

I think we should add a few more languages there (Deutsch and Italiano
for instance). I don't want to prioritise any particular language, but
the idea is to clearly show that the site is available in many
languages, and people can click "More" to see the full list.

What do you think? We could roll this out on the main site pretty soon...

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[libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Viewer for Android unpublished in Play Store -- please update website pages

[Mike Saunders]

Hello,

We've unpublished the LibreOffice Viewer for Android in the Play Store,
as it hasn't been updated for nearly two years and has quite a few
negative reviews. We still want technically-minded people to try it via
the .apk, and (ideally) help us to improve it, but in the meantime we've
removed the link from this page:

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/android-viewer/

If maintainers of this page in other languages can also remove the Play
Store link, that would be great -- thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Language changer implemented on LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

On 10/02/2020 16:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:>
> The root problem is that we use a fixed header. This has always caused
> problems, for example when linking to mailing list anchors in
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
> 
> There is a newish CSS property called scroll-padding. It relates to
> scroll snapping points. In this case it could be used to style the html
> element like
> 
> html {
>     scroll-padding-top: 40px;
> }
> 
> Or a similar value that produces the desired result.

Great, thanks Ilmari -- that has fixed the issue with anchors, eg:

https://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/#design

I also updated:

#content1 {
  background: #ff;
  margin-top: 90px;
}

to be 120px in main.css, to accommodate for the larger top bar. It all
looks good now, but if anyone spots something odd, please let us know!

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Language changer implemented on LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Michael,

On 10/02/2020 17:28, Michael Wolf wrote:
> 
> there are some issues for Sorbian languages:
> 
> - Upper Sorbian site should show Dolnoserbšćina as link
> (dsb.libreoffice.org for Lower Sorbian)
> 
> - The link on both Sorbian sites show to the Venetian site
> (vec.libreoffice.org) instead to dsb.libreoffice.org resp.
> hsb.libreoffice.org
> 
> - The site https://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc behind the More...
> link does not list dsb.libreoffice.org and hsb.libreoffice.org
> 
> - The More... link text should be translatable

Currently the text in the black bar is a static string, so we can't
change it for specific websites. That may be doable (perhaps Jean has
some ideas) however...

I know that's not very flexible, but IMO this approach is better than
nothing! As mentioned, we get lots of questions asking why the
LibreOffice website is only in English, so hopefully this extra bar,
even in its limited form, helps with that...

Cheers,
Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Language changer implemented on LibreOffice website

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

I've implemented the language changer banner at the top of the
LibreOffice website:

https://www.libreoffice.org

Thanks to Jean Spiteri for his help. The goal here is to make visitors
aware that the website is available in different languages. (We get
emails asking why the site is only in English...)

IMO it looks good, but I've noticed one thing -- it causes a slight
misalignment with some content. For instance:

https://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/#docs

With the language changer, the green LibreOffice banner now slightly
overwrites the "Documentation" header. Does anyone know a way to fix
this, apart from manually updating the padding like so:



Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] remove my ja.libreoffice.org admin permissions

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Junichi,

On 07/01/2020 10:07, Junichi Matsukawa wrote:
> 
> Recently, Nogata has been doing great work in maintaining the 
> ja.libreoffice.org site. Therefore I would like to retire from the web admin. 
> Thank you for supporting my work for four years. 
> Please remove my web admin permissions.

Sure, I've just removed you in SilverStripe. Thanks very much for your
contributions over the years!

Cheers,
Mike

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[libreoffice-website] New extensions and templates website for testing

[Mike Saunders]

Hello everyone,

A week ago, we blogged about the new website we've been working on:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/03/02/our-new-extensions-and-templates-page-is-getting-ready/

Well, today we're pleased to announce that it's ready for testing!

https://vm135.documentfoundation.org/en/extensions/

You can see that we've already imported many items, and while there are
still some more improvements to come, we're finishing off the core
functionality. If you have feedback, please send it to this list!

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