Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: As an admin who closes a fair few AfDs, and as a human being who isn't a big fan of loudmouthed ideological posturing, I have to say that I rather like such topic areas. Well, there is currently an AfD in progress that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-23 Thread Fred Bauder
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: As an admin who closes a fair few AfDs, and as a human being who isn't a big fan of loudmouthed ideological posturing, I have to say that I rather like such topic areas. Well, there is currently an AfD in progress that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-23 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Goes too far. A Procrustean Bed. Really? What about this proposal? In light of such examples, I think it’s high time to start a discussion on whether to amend Wikipedia’s BLP policy as follows: *WP

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-23 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Carcharoth wrote: *WP contributors will not start biographies on lesser-known living people without their permission. The project is full of three-sentence stubs on people of minor notability, more often than not started by contributors eager to increase their number of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-23 Thread Fred Bauder
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Goes too far. A Procrustean Bed. Really? What about this proposal? In light of such examples, I think it’s high time to start a discussion on whether to amend Wikipedia’s BLP policy as follows: *WP

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/22 Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz: Does anyone agree with me that the inclusionists are more numerous than the deletionists around the deletion discussions? If you tell us how you counted, we can try to agree or to disagree. It's pointless to talk about subjective feelings. -- Amir

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Mike Dupont
maybe it is because the deletionists delete the messages before they send them mike On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz wrote: Does anyone agree with me that the inclusionists are more numerous than the deletionists around the deletion discussions? A

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
Inclusionism and deletionism are a spectrum not a binary choice, wherever you are on that spectrum there will be editors who are more deletionist or more inclusionist than yourself. The closer you are to one end of the spectrum the more likely it is that you will think that the other end of the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Alan Liefting
On 23/03/2012 8:20 a.m., Amir E. Aharoni wrote: 2012/3/22 Alan Lieftingalieft...@ihug.co.nz: Does anyone agree with me that the inclusionists are more numerous than the deletionists around the deletion discussions? If you tell us how you counted, we can try to agree or to disagree. It's

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Fred Bauder
Does anyone agree with me that the inclusionists are more numerous than the deletionists around the deletion discussions? A Sure, there can only be one Crinch. Fred ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Dario Taraborelli
There is a good body research around who participates in deletion discussions (particularlyin the English Wikipedia). These studies mostly looked at the breakdown by tenure [1] or diversity of participants in AfD discussions or the effects of the size of a discussion on its outcome [2]) In [3]

Re: [WikiEN-l] Inclusionists vs deletionists

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Morris
On Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 19:34, WereSpielChequers wrote: Inclusionism and deletionism are a spectrum not a binary choice, wherever you are on that spectrum there will be editors who are more deletionist or more inclusionist than yourself. The closer you are to one end of the spectrum