Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia in the '80s (video)

. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] If someone gave you the entirety of Wikipedia from 100 years in the future for only 10 minutes, what would you read?

in them wouldn't be a concern, so I would go for pure degree of concern in general. Mother Theresa, Martin Luther, Solon, List of Occultists, Isaac Newton's Occult Studies. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to write about things that were once notable?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] How to write about things that were once notable?

as enforced these days. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to write about things that were once notable?

/listinfo/wikien-l Statistics special page on citizendium states they have 31 active editors. (have made an edit in the last month) -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: The counterattack of the PR companies

were willing to pay for them. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: The counterattack of the PR companies

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2012 17:07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Historically this is inaccurate, as the article states, the original phrasing was to abstain from doing harm, which is significantly different

Re: [WikiEN-l] sad news

just have made very minor comments on issues of fact). He had a particular dry wit about him. Not of the emblematically British sort, but more of the What are you going to do to me? I am not going to fall into the trap of hating you! variety. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro

Re: [WikiEN-l] More stringent notability requirements for biographical articles

of the Booker Prize. * All winners of the Turner Prize. * All presenters of the Royal Society Christmas Lecture. * ... * ... * ... You get the idea...? -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

After all that fine talk, i feel almost hesitant. But let's be real here. It isn't the threshold getting in you need to worry about in terms of editor retention. It is the threshold of getting tossed out either as content or editor or both! -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why Wikipedia Is Important.

knowledge. There is no way to create fear without intolerance. There is no way to create intolerance without ignorance. Ignorance is the cradle of creation. Knowledge is the grave of creation. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linkage bloat

trying to nurse them along. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] I like this

Scottish ones. Lucky me. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] So ...

but it gets there eventually. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] User:RickK2

Wikipedia (my real home wiki), and the next day came as it always did, with a sun rising and all. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Get payed $150 for writing an article!

have been on, to see if there were any takers? -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

or another, not back you up and you will fail. And can't do anything about it. Fred IOW, Wikipedia isn't a suicide pact? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

-protection, but that seems a bit crude.) You say crude, I say simple. If there are articles there needing full protection, nature will take its course, and they will end there in due time. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

Re: [WikiEN-l] Community ready for Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection)?

that which revisions and edits to go live finally. Just a total Charlie Foxtrot in other words. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Pending Changes: first press

, at least sometimes, and I fear propose presents problems both for the motivation of new users to contribute and in the personal restraint experienced users must display by avoiding the trap of OWNing articles. +1 Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] One-sentence explanation of pending changes

proud enough. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] declining numbers of EN wiki admins - The theory that making it easier to get rid of admins is a solution to the decline in their active numbers

!) But a lengthy summary did in fact please Sue in that particular instance. So making the moderators bar posts like the one by Greg, I think serves no one. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [WikiEN-l] declining numbers of active EN wiki admins

on its merits, which is certainly something worthy in itself; my preferred phrasing is bass-ackwards. Yours, in such deep suplication, it hurts my tippy toe shoes. Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reliable sources— some of these bab ies are ugly

, it is a fact that we aren't just giving the cold shoulder to silent knowledge, but also stuff written down in a language not our own, when it happens to exist. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Expert feedback on Featured Articles

site. I wouldn't hold my breath to seeing it quite next year though. The money just isn't going to be there soon to hire people to even attempt that monumental task, in its entirety. Yours (sorry about the length of the post), Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Cuil launches CPedia.com, the robotically generated encyclopedia.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Cuil launches CPedia.com, the robotically generated encyclopedia.

for one won't be holding my breath. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] 100 free Credo accounts for Wikipedia editors

this morning that moored in the harbor outside my window, is a cargo ship which appears to be bringing coal for the power plant there. The name of the ship: http://www.eslshipping.com/portal/en/fleet/m.s._credo/ Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen P. S. I wonder if somebody who worked on my spell

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Curious Incident of the Fans in the Night

mystery. Literally. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen P. S. Never mind William Proxmire, a shot of T.B. vaccine on a navy ship, Heinlein could have been a congress-critter if just Konrad Henlein hadn't been making headlines in the Sudetenlands as a tiny fuhrer the particular election year Robert

Re: [WikiEN-l] How smart people fail to share

than within ref tags. In my opinion when the work or the expert voicing her opinion is independently notable in itself/herself, attributing in plain text is not an unreasonable burden on the readability of the text. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Climate change on Wikipedia

their name has been put to carry as significance. The Trolls of mythology, however, totally got the shaft. In internet terms. Trolling was always a verb, originally, and never a pronoun; and it referred to techniques of fishing. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Internet? Bah!

year when even Marvin Minsky attended a Worldcon, and asked him when HURD would come out of the closet. RMS came out with his classic line of not owning crystal balls... Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

. Sorry for replying on such a silly issue, but I too am just human... (and not feline)... Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] So what does Flagged Revs feel like?

shouldn't do it this way. The process can and should be made mostly invisible to casual editors. Like I said, you don't want the process to be 'invisible' to casual editors, you want it to be *transparently open*. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Notability and ski resorts (was: Newbie and not-so-newbie biting)

in the Middle Ages]] * [[History of something in World War I]] etc. PS. Feel free to moderate me if this is found to be too far from being of the topic of this list ;-D Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another Media and Wikipedia blackout on NYT reporter in Afghanistan

in deciding issues in criminal cases, and as such may have a very remote chance of affecting life and death issues. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another Media and Wikipedia blackout on NYT reporter in Afghanistan

decisions about which stories were made in the newsrooms at which time, and who was on which side about which story... Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another Media and Wikipedia blackout on NYT reporter in Afghanistan

Mitchell to with-hold mentioning Heinlein in his book on BLP grounds. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

figure of 20 000 from. It looks awfully specific, like somebody might have actually used that number in some context or another, and the media just completely fumbled at understanding what the number referred to. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying exonyms (was: hatnotes)

' is only utopian if you ignore the fnords. Abject apologies for contributing to the worrisome trend of this channel to descend to non-wikipedia related non sequiturs, but there are times when one simply has to let ones pop cult. erudition get the better of oneself. wide smirk Yours, Jussi-Ville

Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes

is that people want cookie-cutter solutions, but also regrettably wish to mold the cookie- cutters around the most monstrous cases, not the cases where applying the rigid framework is way too draconian. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] Policies, notability et al, was Request to Wikipedians for BBC...

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Board Elections

on my campaigning acumen, I think! Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] In development--BLP task force

of darkness (inevitably including, for Serrano, the Jews who follow Jehovah) in a last battle and thus inaugurating a Fourth Reich. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Nazism#Miguel_Serrano Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] In development--BLP task force

Wikipedia:UNDUE at that point :o) Sorry about injecting real examples to such a wonderful discussion of hypotheticals, but how would you each deal with an article like [[Leslie Fish]]? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

the pictures removed because they cause harm, rather than to help their income. Methinks that posting was a smiley facey wanting. I sincerely hope you weren't in dead earnest. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

don't have [[Bukefalos]] etc. as articles; I, for one, am appalled. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

Casey Brown wrote: Was there something missing that you noticed? Not really on-topic, but I couldn't let it go un-remarked-upon that that is of course one of the classic one-liners, whether deliberate or not. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

, when it comes to revealing trade secrets. We do want Xenu to only be revealed for those who are ready for it? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] a site that falls on its face when tested

as possible at a website as reliable as possible (in some cases that would be Wikipedia). Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

in the past, such as the case of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but I don't quite see them as being relevant in this context. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

dominion, be? Did the photographer get payed a proper artists dues? Or did they do this ever so creative work in largely conveyor-belt fashion, without much thought into what it was precisely that they were *reproducing*? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

forever mark the image as the work of that and no other fungible photographer, I rather suspect. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] Copyright question

smile at the thought of freeing public domain material. :-D Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Grape Lane (euph.)

, like individual episodes from TV series. But whatever offends you about a feature article choice, regular Wikipedians probably know that there's not much point trying to convince Raul654 of anything. +1 Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Bible websites

not unambiguously divided, but that there is plausible evidence that the order of textual passages has been re-arranged. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] News agencies are not RSs

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajhwok_Afghan_News genuinely not a reliable source? If it isn't perhaps it should be removed from the four other articles that use it as a source. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] News agencies are not RSs

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia slags off Palmerston North

than there will be BLP problems on Bill Gates. But BLO problems on small cities (or small companies, etc.) where the Wikipedia entry is the top search result, can wreak havoc. I would call it AOSO, or Articles on Organizations Still in Operation. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

, but to what extent if any, should we prevent people from adding in content previously published under CC-BY-SA? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

definitely motivated to look after it. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] NY Times: Wired Editor Apologizes for Copying from Wikipedia in New Book

that not crediting a restorer (when crediting the original) would count as plagiarism. That's a different kettle of fish, I think. I agree. But on the moral rights angle, it does breach the inalienable right of paternity to a work. Paternity is there even for modifications. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google Starts Including Wikipedia on Its News Site

. I think that falls squarely into the category of You couldn't make this stuff up! Incredible, simply incredible. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google Starts Including Wikipedia on Its News Site

are a completely different animal. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hi there, everybody!

work for the finnish language MediaWiki messages. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hi there, everybody!

generally takes place though the likes of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC For sufficiently vague definitions of the word socializing. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/5/28 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: Actually my life experience using wikipedia for self medication does not bear that out. There have been situtations where I was in dire straits, and without a doctor within easy reach, where simply consulting

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

different ailments, was a multipurpose drug workable in the situation I found myself. and that is a fact. I am sure there are phone-line services I could have consulted, but wikipedia worked ok. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN

Re: [WikiEN-l] Knol - Our first major scandel

-using, re-invigorating old content. Personally I am glad that very few of my early contributions have remained in any form at all as live content. What supplanted them has been much better. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] We've been overtaken.

difficultly finding new jobs, though). I am sure that if Larry Sanger is reading this mailing list, you just made him wince. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lies, damned lies, and statistics

websites holding on to placements 9996; 9997; 9998; , and 1000 1001 are at present... ( Wednesday, 22. 4. 2009 )? Heehee. Jussi-Ville Heiskanen P.S. ...and does anyone consider those sites parts of the zeitgeist? ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

get me into some trouble here, if people don't realize I am merely just speculating... how much, if at all, was the creation of the scratchpad influenced by the wildly more freewheeling GNUpedia project of Richard M. Stallman? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

that still need to be ironed out. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

Larry Sanger wrote: If you don't like my message, that's fine, but do not try to deny my right to get it out there. You Are JoeM, And I Claim My Five Pounds. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

David Gerard wrote: 2009/4/4 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only regret I personally have about that one, is that Jimbo missed the one big opening at a knock-out punch vis a vis citizendium. I don't. Citizendium can't harm Wikipedia, but Wikipedia could harm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

article on imaginary numbers. The narrative voice there grates as if there was a Sunday school supervisor reading text to wee bairns and smiling every three words, to emphasize that we so love this stuff, ain't it cute and cuddly, these imaginary numbers, stuff and golly-winks. Yours, Jussi-Ville

Re: [WikiEN-l] Microsoft kills Encarta

Nathan wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: Agreed. Though is it annoying when you see people working on things to address this, and then see critics, who inspired some people, carry on criticising the meta-processes, instead of supporting

Re: [WikiEN-l] Microsoft kills Encarta

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I think this casts a new interesting perspective on the decision by Microsoft to buy out powerset.com. I will be watching with interest, how they will develop that product, and whether they intend

Re: [WikiEN-l] Microsoft kills Encarta

, perhaps now that they have decided to not hold onto encarta, they might be persuadable to sell powerset off, since holding on to it is not fending off a competitor to encarta. The question of course then would be, who would be willing to buy powerset off their hands? Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

Charles Matthews wrote: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: In that sentence there are buried assumptions as follows: 1. There are people on wikipedia who will not permit quality. 2. People who won't permit quality are aggressive. 3. There is a clear unambiguous metric for quality. 4

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Charles Matthews wrote: Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/2/16 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: I believe we have another decade before Wikipedia lives up to its potential as a comprehensive reference. My main hope is that life around

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

breath. sarcastic aside Otherwise, why would the 1975 Encyclopaedia Britannica Micropaedia article on Monastery consist of 12 words? /sarcastic aside But completely seriously, a subject that can be exhaustively covered briefly, is not a stub. Period. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] A wide selection of Drama

Ray Saintonge wrote: Kevin Wong wrote: But is it a tragedy or a comedy? That depends on your proximity to the events. From within it is high gothic; from without it is pure slapstick. Heh, remembering the epic battle between you and Angela over the redirects of years

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

Gwern Branwen wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think this is a very interesting point. You will forgive if I have asked this before, and not gotten a reply. (I honestly forget if I have broached this subject before, I

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

of those 5 statements is left to the student. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] (Off Topic) Re: Biography of Living persons

would be desirable, an odd position for a project specifically dedicated to making information available to take) is monumental hubris. We're big, but we're not -that- big. (Off-Topic): And yet, see [[illegal prime]], and [[AACS encryption key controversy]]. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Journal of Biblical Literature is also requiring a Wikipedia entry

the sentence: I made this up of course,[...] and pretty broad clues along the way... Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [WikiEN-l] General versus specific names/scope for articles

line, unless it comes up on territory with other content. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Scientists told publish in Wikipedia or else

error that couldn't be corrected because the owner of that page couldn't be arsed to edit it. And the page you personally lauded on the BSD Daemon, still has the Daemon wielding a Triton which does not exist as any kind of implement (hint: it is a trident) Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen