Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Niklas Laxström
2014-03-08 0:39 GMT+02:00 George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com: This is not disrespecting development, which is extremely important by any measure. But we're running a top-10 worldwide website, a key worldwide information resource for humanity as a whole. We cannot cripple development to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Offline-l] The Whole Wikipedia in English with pictures in one 40GB big file

2014-03-08 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
Le 07/03/2014 19:25, Asaf Bartov a écrit : btw, are these new improved tools documented anywhere? http://kiwix.org/wiki/Development does not seem to point in the right direction. The usage is pretty straightforward (for IT people) and IMO everything necessary is explained in the READMEs: *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Isarra Yos
On 08/03/14 09:15, Niklas Laxström wrote: 2014-03-08 0:39 GMT+02:00 George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com: This is not disrespecting development, which is extremely important by any measure. But we're running a top-10 worldwide website, a key worldwide information resource for humanity as a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Offline-l] The Whole Wikipedia in English with pictures in one 40GB big file

2014-03-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Emmanuel Engelhart kel...@kiwix.org PS: We really want to make a post @blog.wikimedia.org (so in English). If someone is volunteer to write this, I would really appreciate his help. If you write such a blog post in what English you have handy, I'd be happy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they build. It's shouldn't be operation's job to make sure the site is stable for code changes. Things should go more in this direction, in fact. If you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Brandon Harris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they build. It's shouldn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Zurich Hackathon: Creating a map namespace

2014-03-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 mrt. 2014, at 21:48, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: This is thinking way too simple. Would it be nice to be able to do this ? Sure, but we already have dynamic maps. WikiMiniAtlas, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they build. It's shouldn't be operation's job to make sure the site is stable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Lee Worden
On 03/08/2014 02:10 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/03/14 09:15, Niklas Laxström wrote: Please do not forget the contributors who want to improve MediaWiki for their own needs. We also have to balance how much we inconvenience them to meet the requirements of WMF. In my opinion,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 03/08/2014 04:38 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: Tell me something, what about the developers of MariaDB? Should they be responsible for WMF's stability? If they accidentally release a buggy version, are they expected to revert it within hours so that the WMF operations team can redeploy? I'm going

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: The answer is: no, obviously not. And for that reason the MariaDB developers are not allowed to simply push their latest code on our infrastructure with a simple +2 to code review. Yes, and my point is that MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: The answer is: no, obviously not. And for that reason the MariaDB developers are not allowed to simply push their latest code on our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia uses deployment branches. Just because someone +2/merges into master doesn't mean it immediately shows up on Wikimedia servers. It needs to go into a deployment branch, then it needs to get deployed by a person.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia uses deployment branches. Just because someone +2/merges into master doesn't mean it immediately shows up on Wikimedia servers. It needs to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Chad
New rule: calling badger is synonymous with asking for the moderation bit for yourself. -Chad On Mar 8, 2014 1:42 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: The jenkins report says it passed tests, hence why it was deployed. If there's other tests that aren't reporting to gerrit or if there's a test that needs to be added, maybe that's a post-mortem action to track? Yep. Hence

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: On Mar 8, 2014 1:42 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger New rule: calling badger is synonymous with asking for the moderation bit for yourself. Fine, but first we have to ban the people who top-post and don't trim unnecessary parts of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the same. It is not. Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At this moment in time all the metadata is essentially English. This will be no longer the case with Wikidata. The data that is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:34 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Chad wrote: On Mar 8, 2014 1:42 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger New rule: calling badger is synonymous with asking for the moderation bit for yourself. Fine, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On Mar 9, 2014 1:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the same. It is not. Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At this moment in time all the metadata is