[WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

-- Now, I read that as closing tag optional. So I am wrong. Or am I? Anyone? [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-INPUT Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

Rahul Gonsalves wrote: Hi, http://rahulgonsalves.com/research/site/ I'm throwing together a quick site to try and fund my travel to an accessibility conference. I haven't had too much time to check it, or think it through, but I would appreciate a page check, and general

Re: [WSG] Site check

Kenny Graham wrote: Can the more obsessive compulsive members of the group check our new site for problems please? :) http://www.trademarkads.com I fear for their welfare. Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

Re: [WSG] opera doesn't play nice with Opacity

Tee G. Peng wrote: On this site, body {background:#FFB701} where footer wrap has opacity of 0.92 with a bg color #ftr_wrap {background:#0d0d0d; opacity:0.92;} and 3 columns has #col1, #col2, #col3 {background:#1a1a1a;} I think Safari and Firefox got it right, that the 3 columns'

Re: [WSG] opera doesn't play nice with Opacity

/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** David Storey Chief Web Opener Opera Software Oslo, Norway W: http://my.opera.com/dstorey ✉ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ✆ : +47 24 16 42 26

Re: [WSG] layout help requested

Ray Leventhal wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css Issues I seem to be having: 1) Ideally, I'd like #head #general and the table to all appear as one unit, with

Re: [WSG] Best way to clear a float

floats. Others suggested here are also good. It depends on your design as to which one works best. As always, design is largely a matter of compromise. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Best way to clear a float

floats. Others suggested here are also good. It depends on your design as to which one works best. As always, design is largely a matter of compromise. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] html css review wanted

Nick Cowie wrote: Got to build new template for work, so if you could look at: http://nickcowie.com/other/template/index.html ps does it work in IE7 and Opera for Mac (weird stuff happened but I need to upgrade)? footer in centred will everything else is grid based. All the

Re: [WSG] PHI and YUI Grids

James Jeffery wrote: Hmmm interesting i might take a look at it. I would love to know more about YUI Grids and the 'Golden Mean'. James FWIW, the Golden Mean is a matter of philosophy. I believe the search string you seek is Golden Ratio. Best, ~dL --

Re: [WSG] Site check requested :: Lecoat

Rick Lecoat wrote: I'm recreating a table-based site that I did a few years back, rebuilding it (hopefully) to web standards and making it as accessible as I can. http://sandbox.sharkattack.co.uk/novaRebuild/working.html Rick, It is working far better than when you wrote for a check a

Re: [WSG] Site check requested :: Lecoat

Rick Lecoat wrote: On 31/10/07 (14:19) David said: Rick, It is working far better than when you wrote for a check a week or so ago. If I assign a media type to import.css, will that propogate down to the stylesheets that are imported within it? Rick, I see Georg Sortun has

Re: [WSG] html css review wanted

Nick Cowie wrote: David wrote: All the disclaimers make it difficult to review. All I wanted to avoid with those disclaimers was: 1. You should of used shorthand properties to save space in layout.css (I know, it was the quick and dirty fix) 2. Felix to remind me that not everybody

Re: [WSG] How z-index works

John Faulds wrote: OK, this is obviously not an isolated occurrence anymore. I've tried to look at your site 3 times now in the last couple of weeks Thierry and can never get it to load. On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:52:32 +1000, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate any

Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

Travis D. Falls wrote: I missed the URL for this… can someone send it out again? I want to see what has everyone in a tizzy. J travis Sure. http://www.ourtype.be/ le triumph de mediocre -- baudelaire Best, ~dL *** List

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

Try this... a img { margin-bottom: -2px; vertical-align: sub; border: none;} Worked for me in a similar situation. David On 24/10/2007, at 9:03 AM, Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone please help me with this small problem i'm having I seem to have a problem with the link hover style i

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

are either highly ineffective, or block out users you want as well as spam bots. I take the view that email addresses are going to end up on spam lists eventually no matter what I do, and just run spam filtering software. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Site check requested :: Lecoat

Rick Lecoat wrote: Hi; I'm recreating a table-based site that I did a few years back, rebuilding it (hopefully) to web standards and making it as accessible as I can. Currently it's one static page and the links largely don't go anywhere, but I would appreciate feedback from the list before I

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

understand the same thing is true. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Web Design Test - IE Users

Joseph Taylor wrote: Hey everyone! I wanted some of you windows users to test out this site if you'd be so kind on your IE browsers. http://steveframe.sitesbyjoe.com Joseph R. B. Taylor IE6 and IE7 on Parallels/Mac It looked fine to me and I saw no serious issues, Joseph. 800

Re: [WSG] Element suggestion requested

Rick Lecoat wrote: Hi all. I've got a site which you can see a static screenshot of here http:// www.clients.sharkattack.co.uk/quicklook.jpg (actually it's a screenshot of the photoshop file -- the site is still being coded) The item(s) I'm currently marking up is/are the 'Values' boxes in the

Re: [WSG] IE bug?

Stijn Audooren wrote: I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. _ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_

Re: [WSG] Accessible - Standard Compliant - Club Membership System

is something of a pain. I wouldn't look so far to a possible (and increasingly unlikely) future at the expense of the present. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Accessible - Standard Compliant - Club Membership System

On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:37, David Little wrote: Well ... HTML 5 is being developed so XHTML is likely not the future, I was under the impression that you'll also be able to write HTML 5 in XHTML syntax (as XHTML 5, obviously different from XHTML 2 which is a different concept

Re: [WSG] Accessible - Standard Compliant - Club Membership System

light on this, or is this still an unknown? Cheers, David On 14/09/2007, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Sep 2007, at 23:09, S.R. Emerson wrote: Is there a particular reason you have specified XHTML? So it is upgradeable for the future. Well ... HTML 5 is being developed so

Re: [WSG] width calculation linux / windows

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: ben van 't ende [netcreators] wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_16.html The only thing is ie6 crashes on resizing. That is a weird phenomenon. Not much you can do about that i guess. Probably a whole lot if I could isolate the IE6/OS/service-pack combination - with

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

to be creating good, clean, standards-compliant code. So, I'd definitely recommend Plone, but would stress you do need to spend some time getting up to speed with it. Thanks, David On 12/09/2007, Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most

Re: [WSG] Speaking of alt tags . . .

error) to mean The author has not considered alternative text at all, so the user agent should present as much information as is known (such as the file name) to the user in the hope they can infer some meaning from it. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

engine indexing bots, and probably a host of other use cases. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

There is typography and there is the science of typography: they are not necessarily the same. Sooner rather than later one of you is going to actually have to break down and commit to something on the screen. Preferably something of your own making that proves a point (or at least attempts

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

if a picture is of my car or my birthday party before telling my browser to load the thumbnail. Lots of people seem to be hung up on the idea that alt text is for blind people, but there are quite a few other use cases for the attribute. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http

Re: [WSG] IE help

Works fine for me... IE 7.0.6000.16512 on Vista Ultimate On 8/23/07, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some users have complained that when they go to this page http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/lib/lib_current.html and try to download the linked files with IE 7 they get a message stating

Re: [WSG] IE, alpha transparency and sliding doors...

it helps anybody. In the same spirit, I can tell you that PNGOUTWin also removes this gamma information. Out of the box, it also safely removes all the gunk with which Adobe products infest PNG files. Cordially, David -- *** List

Re: [WSG] IE, alpha transparency and sliding doors...

it helps anybody. In the same spirit, I can tell you that PNGOUTWin also removes this gamma information. Out of the box, it also safely removes all the gunk with which Adobe products infest PNG files. Cordially, David -- *** List

Re: [WSG] When is invalid CSS okay?

write about the Sheraton Centre in Manhattan, my U.S. spell checker tells me I misspelled Centre. So do I change the spelling? I think not. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Internet Explorer and XHTML support (was: (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link)

On 10 Aug 2007, at 09:48, Dean Edridge wrote: David. New features added. Really? I don't think I'm asking too much to be able to use features that have been W3C recommendations for 8 years. It would be nice, but I don't think that it should be a priority just because its been

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

repeated messages), it is limiting quotes to only relevant material. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

would. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

default, only smaller and harder to read. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:01:04 +0100, David Dorward wrote: This would be the older generation who tend towards having poor eyesight and needing larger font sizes? Sorry, David, Your comment makes me smile. Being retired, I assist at a computer training lab where students of all adult ages

Re: [WSG] Auto scaling within a table's background image

; 50 what? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Auto scaling within a table's background image

where it was absolutely necessary to use tables for layout. It might be the only way to achieve a given presentation, but is that presentation really absolutely necessary? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: RES: [WSG] HELP with CSS

think. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list

On 27 Jul 2007, at 00:08, Nick Roper wrote: I need to target the 1st item in a list. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html#first-child But: http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#css2pseudoclasses -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element

On 26 Jul 2007, at 11:14, Micky Hulse wrote: Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: ...snip... Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3 -- David Dorward http

Re: [WSG] Center Align an Unorder List

Ryan Moore wrote: Looking to Center Text on an unordered list. css: ul {text-align: center;} li { display: inline; list-style-type: none; padding-right: 20px; } markup: ul lia href=#Item one/a/li lia href=#Item two/a/li lia href=#Item three/a/li lia href=#Item four/a/li lia href=#Item

Re: [WSG] Using target=_blank

to open a new tab or window? Just asking. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] H1 font not set in IE

on a pretty basic Win XP Pro setup. Opera shows both the menu and headings in Garamond; Firefox 2 shows Times, I think, for *both* here, as does IE. Hmm. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] H1 font not set in IE

on a pretty basic Win XP Pro setup. Opera shows both the menu and headings in Garamond; Firefox 2 shows Times, I think, for *both* here, as does IE. Hmm. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] H1 font not set in IE

previous post. Garamond is not installed on my computer. I don't know what Opera substitutes, but it is certainly not the default Times New Roman defined in my preferences. Sorry for the noise. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines

Re: [WSG] H1 font not set in IE

previous post. Garamond is not installed on my computer. I don't know what Opera substitutes, but it is certainly not the default Times New Roman defined in my preferences. Sorry for the noise. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines

Re: [WSG] Shadow validation

it, then copy/paste the URL (don't forget to convert ampersands to entities). Or see http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/validation.html#icon -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Fieldset background

Dean Matthews wrote: IE6 doesn't appear to render the background correctly in a fieldset with a legend (extends beyond top border). Is there a fix or alternatively how would you hide the background-color from IE6 only. Thanks, Dean Georg Sortun, who is on vacation and unable to reply to

Re: [WSG] Creative Yeti Has Left The Building (Temporarily)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am attending an animation course until July 23rd (not a holiday!). I will be checking my mails in the evening and can be contacted on my mobile, 07740 342188 if you urgently need some colouring in. Jilly __ Walt Tovey Creative Yeti 10 Yetis

Re: [WSG] Background image problem

Windows. http://www.madisonFH.com/new ~~ Hi Dean, Try adding background-position: bottom left; to your rule for #bottomBevel. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Background image problem

Windows. http://www.madisonFH.com/new ~~ Hi Dean, Try adding background-position: bottom left; to your rule for #bottomBevel. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

the different methods. Maybe I can after this project's finished ;-) David On 30/06/07, Tate Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote: I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

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Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

complex Thanks again, David On 27/06/07, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/27/07, David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very

Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?

that adds to the usability of a site for any group is worth including. Also, it's very easy to hide these links from other standard browsers if you so wish, so it's not really much of an overhead to include them. Hope this helps, David On 28/06/07, Frank Palinkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All

Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?

feel you must hide content from users who can see, then please bring it back into view when they point at it. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?

, e.g. something like: div class=skip a href=#contentSkip to content/a | a href=#navigationSkip to navigation/a /div Hiding the links as suggested via positioning. David -- David Little -e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -w: www.littled.net

[WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

approached this kind of issue. As usual I may be missing something blindingly obvious -- this is one of the areas in which my experience is a little limited! Many thanks, David -- David Little *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Opera and Decimal Percentage Widths

Christian Montoya wrote: Hello list, I have a test page set up at http://lab.christianmontoya.com/point-nine-nine-percent/ and on this page the 3rd and 4th rows have divs with 49.6% and 49.99% widths, respectively. These behave as expected in Firefox, Safari, and IE, but in Opera 9+ their

Re: [WSG] site check please

Jermayn Parker wrote: just wondering if people can have a quick look at the following website for any major errors, suggestions etc http://www.phillipwrayracing.com It is a little slow to load. I regret that font-scaling drops the floats and/or breaks the layout. Best, ~dL --

Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap

of the text, jutting out to the right of the page. Putting it in a block element helps. I used a DIV to fix it. Adding display: block; for the image works also. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] 1 pixel gap

of the text, jutting out to the right of the page. Putting it in a block element helps. I used a DIV to fix it. Adding display: block; for the image works also. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] why is this text not resizable,?

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Re: [WSG] Back to the Future

. So, any tips to do this without reverting all the way back to 1996 tables and spacer gifs? Or am I doomed to non-standards hell? Does 'work' really mean 'look the same'? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] resizing text via graphics/text?

with font size in IE... Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

controls, their labels, and their relationships to each other. The DTD almost always errs towards the liberal, it is expected that documents be written according to the prose of the specification and not just the machine readable components of it. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

phones are limited to one font in limited sizes and no italic fontface. This can make Opera Mini 3 look different one one phone than it does on another, so don't expect pixel perfect layouts. David On 31 May 2007, at 12:02, Nick Cowie wrote: Hi Katrina I have not done enough research

Re: self-closing tags in HTML, was: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

On 29 May 2007, at 12:50, Alastair Campbell wrote: On 5/25/07, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not causing validation issues does not make them fine; even if the vast majority of user agents don't respect it, img / in an HTML document means An image element followed by a greater than

Re: self-closing tags in HTML, was: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

On 29 May 2007, at 14:55, Andrew Maben wrote: On May 29, 2007, at 9:26 AM, David Dorward wrote: Because, in an HTML document, an XHTML style img tag unambiguously means An image element followed by a greater than sign. Sorry to be dense, I'm trying to grasp this concept. Does (at least

Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)

Samuel Richardson wrote: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I

Re: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

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Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

On 25 May 2007, at 15:40, Stuart Foulstone wrote: The for attribute should NOT be used when the label tag encloses the label text. Why not? The specification doesn't appear to forbid it. Does it cause problems in any user agents? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http

Re: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

feedback. The article Christian wrote is particularly useful. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

users, but at 120 DPI the results are 25% bigger in both IE and Opera. The bigger text may not affect the scale I am attempting - I need to do more experiments. [1] http://24ways.org/2006/compose-to-a-vertical-rhythm Cordially, David

[WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

not use XHTML markup (and sends it as HTML !) (FWIW - I love Textile, but that, too, creates XHTML.) Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your

Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces

Douglas Reith wrote: Hi there, Just a quick one - what do people most commonly mock up web site designs in? (Photoshop?) Also, if possible, Linux and GPL or similar would be great!! Cheers, Doug Notepad. Best, ~dL *** List

RE: [WSG] css type loop

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Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

validation looks like this: Name: Please enter your full name || Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

it covered 2 or more input areas (help text etc)). Cheers, David. Benedict Wyss wrote: Hi all, I am having a discussion with colleagues here at work (won't mention our site as it stinks) about the best way forward for form layouts. I have one person saying he will continue to use tables till

Re: [WSG] Hack for all IE versions including 7

, but then no 2 browsers actually obey the CSS2.1 spec in the same way (if at all), so personally i find trying to obey a spec which isn't adhered to in the first place is pretty fruitless. Cheers, David. Thierry Koblentz wrote: I agree on the amount of hacks that should be needed, if you need to serve

Re: [WSG] border vs outline

I resort to background-color instead. Incidentally, have you tried Firebug? It's the only thing I know that indicates where your margins are (and lets you change them dynamically). Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] ive given up on css

of using tables for layout. But then, I am retired and can afford to choose what I work on. I suggest that you keep your identity off those sites if you want to protect your reputation, though. Cordially, David -- *** List

Re: [WSG] ive given up on css

of using tables for layout. But then, I am retired and can afford to choose what I work on. I suggest that you keep your identity off those sites if you want to protect your reputation, though. Cordially, David -- *** List

RE: [WSG] Semantics and small

://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/graphics.html#h-15.2.1 -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

RE: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general

the layout I find Firebug invaluable. It is the only tool I know that shows you where the margins are. (Negative margins excepted.) Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe

RE: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general

the layout I find Firebug invaluable. It is the only tool I know that shows you where the margins are. (Negative margins excepted.) Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe

Re: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

the tongue! [1] http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=acronym Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

RE: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

rather then an acronym? If not, how do you pronounce it? Mesa? The HTML spec is, sadly, unclear on this point. WCAG suggests: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#text-abbr -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

RE: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

say in plain text, and the example given uses the title attribute: PWelcome to the ACRONYM title=World Wide WebWWW/ACRONYM! (and its another initilism mislabelled as an acronym) -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

Stuart Foulstone wrote: Validation concerns the correctness of the syntax of the code, i.e. if the tags, etc. are properly coded. Well-formedness concerns the structure of the document, i.e. where in the document headings , paragraphs, etc go. You've got those backwards. -- David Dorward

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

Lachlan Hunt wrote: That article is actually only talking about the cases where the W3C validator has known XML limitations. Which are removed in the current beta. http://validator-test.w3.org/ -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

with a Doctype that it recognises as being XHTML. http://validator-test.w3.org/whatsnew.html#t2007-04-19 -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] commenting javascript in script tags

on Windows, at least, will treat this as real XHTML. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] handling accessible form

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Despite Internet Explorer's inexplicable belief to the contrary, id and name are not the same thing. Care to elaborate on what the issues in IE are? It thinks id and name are the same thing. http://dorward.me.uk/tmp/id-vs-name.html -- David Dorward

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