There's these also, I can never spend too long w/o them:
http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-DOM-Level-1-19981001/
http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Core-20001113/
Alan Trick
Nick Elliott wrote:
Hi
Following up on a thread from a month back, this book is now finally out.
DHTML Utopia
Thanks Philippe.
So it appears to be a waste of time developing further while IE 5 on a Mac is
still prevalent.
I'm dropping back to divs and setting white-space to pre.
Cheers
mike 2k:)2
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Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads?
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Jad Madi wrote:
Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads?
Not if they use standards compliant markup.
Easiest way to check is to get a page to validate, then insert
the ad and see if it is still valid.
Regards
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On 6/14/05, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon
ads?
No.
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I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it
http://www.w3planet.info/site/
and give me your feedback
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Jad Madi wrote:
Hi
Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads?
I added a PayPal link to my website but the supplied code snippet isn't
valid XHTML so I had to manually alter it.
Alan
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I would recommend not having ::Web Design References:: for 14 different
areas of web design. These should be made into the sub headings of
Usability, XML, Typography etc.
Colin Steele - www.e-connected.com
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On Behalf
Jad wrote,
Hi
I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it
http://www.w3planet.info/site/
and give me your feedback
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It is a very interesting site and a well put together package of standards
related information. All my favorites in one place is great to see and
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:11:39 -0400, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I have made some changes to W3 planet, would you please check it
http://www.w3planet.info/site/
and give me your feedback
Jad,
Nice, clean, well designed site. Worked well for me in XP_SP2 at 1280 in
Opera8, Moz1.7.4,
http://mouseriders.dk/
I would be glad if you could help me with the following...
On OS9 Mac/IE 5 I have a background painting bug in the list menus on
the right. I've read a ton of articles and none of them seems to apply
to my problem (they way I read them anyway). So if anyone has an idea
I don't have a certain answer, but I have a questions; Why are you
trying to get your website to work on IE on a Mac?? (OS9)?? You know
that IE on a mac has been ditched in the new OSX (Tiger). And Safari is
the dominent Browser. You should have a message appear on your site for
any users that are
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:00:05 -0400, Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://mouseriders.dk/
[...]
I would be happy for a sitecheck in general regarding DL time,
accessibility
Accessibility suggestion:
body { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; }
or,
body { font: 100.01%
Hmmm...
I don't have a certain answer, but I have a questions; Why are you
trying to get your website to work on IE on a Mac?? (OS9)?? You know
that IE on a mac has been ditched in the new OSX (Tiger). And
Safari is
the dominent Browser. You should have a message appear on
your site for
Hi,
I recall some controversy surrounding when to use em and i, could
someone clarify proper use?
CK
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Knowing is not enough, you must apply;
willing is not enough, you must do.
---Bruce Lee
Chris,
I recall some controversy surrounding when to use em and i, could
someone clarify proper use?
Simply don't use i, because it is visual markup. Think about what
you really want. Is it emphasis, use em, is it just something visual
use span class=someclasstext/span. And try to give the
Apology. My reply to Kim Kruse was meant for the css-list, not WSG. David
Laakso
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:28:05 -0400, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:00:05 -0400, Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://mouseriders.dk/
[...]
I would be happy for a sitecheck in
Is there any reason at all to ever use small, and big?
I know they are visual elements, but I thought I heard somewhere
that small represents a tonal adjustment, for screen readers - such
as *lowering* the tone of voice.
em and strong provide levels of emphasis - but is there an
opposite to
I recall some controversy surrounding when to use em and i, could
someone clarify proper use?
Simply don't use i, because it is visual markup. Think about what
you really want. Is it emphasis, use em, is it just something visual
use span class=someclasstext/span. And try to give the class a
Martin Heiden napisa(a):
Simply don't use i, because it is visual markup. Think about what
you really want. Is it emphasis, use em, is it just something visual
use span class=someclasstext/span. And try to give the class a
semantic name, not italic.
Great, and left Lynx and CSS-off users
Well of course I'd make the site degrade gracefully in IE on a Mac, id
use the @import reference so that older browsers would just render the
content, im all for web standards, but if you are having major problems
with IE on a Mac, which a lot of developers do have, then id say just
render the
Hi Josef,
Have you looked at the page? I'm using @import and I'm *only* having
problems with one particular OS... Mac OS9 and IE5X! AFAIK the page
looks fine on all other browser/OS.
Regarding the hint. Isn't it so that if you put a this page is best
view or Update your browser... or worse
On 14 jun 2005, at 14.20, Jad Madi wrote:
Hi
Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and
Amazon ads?
Yes. You need to use some workarounds to be able to serve Google ads
if you use application/xhtml+xml to deliver XHTML. More info here:
Hi Kim,
Ive opened your page in IE for Mac, versions 5.0 and 5.1.7 and it seems
exactly equal to what I see in Firefox on Windows. Do you want me to
send a printscreen to your email?
Roberto
Kim Kruse wrote:
Hi Josef,
Have you looked at the page?
I can't believe this subject just came up. I'm about ready to have to
deal with advertising myself, but not something as simple as Google
ads. What happens to dealing with Flash based ads as well as some the
other horrible formats that are going to be thrown into my site. I have
outlawed
Hi Roberto,
Thanks. I guess you didn't open it OS9? So unless that's the case it
should not be necessary. Thanks though :-)
Kim
Ive opened your page in IE for Mac, versions 5.0 and 5.1.7 and it
seems exactly equal to what I see in Firefox on Windows. Do you want
me to send a printscreen
Hi,
Any reference on this?
On Jun 14, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Ben Curtis wrote:
for example when you are italicizing foreign words, book titles,
ship names, or other things that are typically italicized but not
emphasized.
Also although I've googled I know from one or Russ' must reads a
noted
Here's one of the best explanations of when to use b and i:
http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2004/05/02/b-and-i
On 6/15/05, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Any reference on this?
On Jun 14, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Ben Curtis wrote:
for example when you are italicizing foreign words, book
Kim,
Is it possible to open the versions I mentioned with OS X? I dont think
so I opened it in the 0S9 emulation provided by OSX But, now, Ive
tried also an old ibook I have here, with only OS 9.2 and IE 5.1 and I
do not see absolutely nothing that qualifies as a background painting
bug (or
For what it's worth, if a user is browsing on OS9's IE, then they have
little choice--Firefox, Safari, etc. are all only available on OSX. So
to suggest that someone upgrades from Mac IE5 is to suggest they go
out and shell out a cool grand for a new machine that runs a new OS.
So maybe go a bit
Hi everyone
just a reminder about the Wellington WSG meeting to be held tomorrow.
Details of the meeting are here:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event41.cfm
It's looking to be a good meeting - good speakers, food and drink
provided and over 70 people attending. And should be a good feeling
Lukasz Grabun wrote:
Great, and left Lynx and CSS-off users alone. i is not depracated. b
is not deprecated. Both have its meaning and purposes. span is perfectly
rendered by all browsers but if you apply font-style: italic rule to the
text you want to be italic when using Lynx I won't see
Hi all,
Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered
lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list
item). For example...
1.
a)
1 -
a:
I need this ability to replicate government legislation and apparently it
has to be an
Richard,
Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in
ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the
value of the list item). For example...
1.
a)
1 -
a:
I need this ability to replicate government legislation and
apparently
Richard Czeiger wrote:
Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered
lists
As far as I can tell, you should be able to define that with the styles
provided for automatic numbering and lists in CSS 2.1
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#counters
Hello,
I just tried to validate a page against an XHTML strict DTD with
javascript code and received these errors:
there is no attribute language
required attribute type not specified
I am calling the JS code externally and thought it was correct.
the syntax in question is:
script
Thanks, Patrick.
John reminded me of the counters. I'd forgotten about them because of their
total lack of support...
C'est la guerre :o)
Richard
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From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:30 AM
the syntax in question is:
script language=javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script
what am I doing wrong??
TIA
Hi Bruce,
Change to:
script type=text/javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js /script
This should work.
tee
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Hi guys,
just wanted to hear what other people's thoughts on this topic are. I
have been adding submit reset buttons to most of my forms all along.
But I am getting the feeling that the reset button is not only a waste
of time, but in fact fairly user-unfriendly.
Seriously: how many people
Bruce Gilbert wrote:
Hello,
I just tried to validate a page against an XHTML strict DTD with
javascript code and received these errors:
there is no attribute language
required attribute type not specified
I am calling the JS code externally and thought it was correct.
the syntax in
I need this ability to replicate government legislation and
apparently it has to be an EXACT duplicate. As far as I can tell,
this isn't in the spec. Has anyone found a solution? Some fancy CSS
hack or DOM scripting that will get around this?
If that EXACT is truly non-negotiable, as in, it
Bruce Gilbert wrote:
there is no attribute language
required attribute type not specified
script language=javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script
script type=text/javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script
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Patrick H. Lauke
_
In terms of accessibility and usability...
what's the difference between RESET and refreshing the page?
R
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From: Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: [WSG] the use of reset buttons on
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
I am getting the feeling that the reset button is not only a waste
of time, but in fact fairly user-unfriendly.
Agree 100%. Never found any situation that would warrant a reset button.
On the other hand, how many people *accidentally* press the reset
button when they
Richard Czeiger wrote:
In terms of accessibility and usability...
what's the difference between RESET and refreshing the page?
In some browsers, if you fill in any fields and then refresh the pages,
your entries remain intact. Admittedly, this doesn't seem to happen in
IE, but it can still
Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered
lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list
item). For example...
As someone has already mentioned,
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html#counters will eventually
be the way to do
(posted back to the list, because it could be of interest for this
conversation ... if it's too OT, just shout)
Richard Czeiger wrote:
Hey patrick - does that still apply with Shift+Refresh?
Good one...I thought along those lines as soon as I posted the last
reply. Tested in Firefox/Win,
Seriously: how many people enter data into a form and go so completely
wrong that they want to erase everything they have just done and start
over new?
Some users may want to do that; alternatively some users will change
their minds about submitting at all and do not trust simply closing
the
On 15 Jun 2005, at 12:19 PM, John Allsopp wrote:
numbering is a very important part of the content of some documents
(particularly legislation) and so should be in the content of the HTML
I completely agree, and have been involved in translating legislation
into a web format. It's a shame
On Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:56 PM, Terrence Wood wrote:
I completely agree, and have been involved in translating legislation
into a web format. It's a shame that the start attribute has been
deprecated in XHTML (last I looked).
Well, there is always HTML 4.01 for these cases (legislation,
On 14 Jun 2005, at 7:23 pm, Mike Foskett wrote:
So it appears to be a waste of time developing further while IE 5 on a
Mac is still prevalent.
I'm dropping back to divs and setting white-space to pre.
Depending on how important IE Mac is, you can always serve it a bit of
different style.
On 15 Jun 2005, at 11:11 am, Derek Featherstone wrote:
As has already been said, simply choosing the right DOCTYPE for the
job may
not be enough, though, given that we still don't really know to what
degree
punctuation matters.
I've been busy putting a law text on a web page (alongside
I have a different opinion. Neither Reset nor Cancel are
necessary. Studies show most users click the back button to abort
transactions (even I do, and I'm a web developer) or leave sites (if
there are no appealing links to go anywhere else).
I can see where Cancel could be a little more
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