Re: [WSG] Re: IE with Gecko Was: Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Carmichael
Is there no program which replaces the Internet Explorer render engine with the Gecko engine? I thought about copying firefox.exe to replace iexplore.exe just to see if I could use Gecko for active desktop :) I then thought it was a BadIdea. As IE is fairly closed source, it would prove rather

Re: [WSG] Re: IE with Gecko Was: Relative Fonts (Away from Office)

2004-04-07 Thread Peter Galipo
I'll be on leave until the 20th April. If you have any urgent queries please contact Michelle Cardey on 9266 7807 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or contact Kenneth Eu on 9266 4517 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Peter Galipo * The discussion

RE: [WSG] Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Nick Cowie
OK - so is there a formula to work out PX to EM ? (at least on a vanilla type of setup). In theory, on the standard browser ;-(IE6 on windows) the default font size is 12 pixels so in that case 1em = 12 pixels. Or it should be until you start playing with it with font-size=76%. But for

[WSG] new layout for a table

2004-04-07 Thread Charles \grey wolf\ Banas
I hope my subject isn't misleading. I have a set of data (specifically news postings) placed in table cells with a header row describing the content. I basically have four columns: poster, date, subject, body. Each news post has its own row. Now, I don't want the table to be shown as a

Re: [WSG] Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Relative font sizes ruin good design. Vector based graphics and text are the future of good screen design. The whole point is to be relative in your units so the layout design can look the same across different resolutions. If a user needs to increase or decrease the text size then the layout

Re: [WSG] Relative Fonts (Out of office)

2004-04-07 Thread Leon Wild
Sorry, I'm away Thurs AM for study. I will read your email when I return. For urgent queries or intranet help please contact Marion on 02 9230 8542 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, Leon Wild. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/07/04 17:38 Relative font sizes ruin good design. Vector based graphics

Re: [WSG] Re: IE with Gecko Was: Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Maybe we as a standard based community should knock on $MS's door and shout I'm mad as hell and I'm not going take it anymore. Leo On Wednesday, April 7, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Sven Jacobs wrote: I was thinking to put such news (IE 6.1 will use Gecko) on my private site as an aprils fool =)

Re: [WSG] Problem and can't validate

2004-04-07 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El mié, 07-04-2004 a las 05:16, Taco Fleur escribió: Sorry I can't validate my content, due to it being on the intranet and it's a CMS that most likely will not validate anyway. FYI, the Web Developer extension for Firebird/Firefox has a handy 'Validate local HTML' option that will help you

Re: [WSG] Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Gary Menzel
The whole point is to be relative in your units so the layout design can look the same across different resolutions. Yes - I know the reasons behind it. And I spend way too much time thinking about it now and dont see any clear pathways to a sensible outcome. Hence why I am bringing it to a

Re: [WSG] Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Felix Miata
Nick Cowie wrote: Gary Menzel wrote: OK - so is there a formula to work out PX to EM ? (at least on a vanilla type of setup). In theory, on the standard browser ;-(IE6 on windows) the default font size is 12 pixels so in that case 1em = 12 pixels. No, the default on windoze is 12pt.

[WSG] default browser stylesheets

2004-04-07 Thread James Ellis
Hi all In a few threads here it's been mentioned there are three types of stylesheets: 1. User 2. Author 3. Browser If you are interested in the third one then you should delve into the /res/ directory of Firefox to have a look at how the default rendering style is set up for that browser

Re: [WSG] default browser stylesheets

2004-04-07 Thread russ weakley
For more info on these three types of style sheets (users, author and browsers) go here: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/advanced_cascade.htm For a sample W3C recommended default style sheet for devices- go here: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/sample.html Russ Hi all In a few

RE: [WSG] IE6 rendering error. anyone knows the cause?

2004-04-07 Thread Letsky-Anderson, Christine
The site does not display correctly on Mac IE 6 at all. All you see is the bottom half of the page. Christine Letsky-Anderson Director, Madison Medialab College of Integrated Science and Technology HHS 1003A - MSC 4306 540-568-2763 - phone 540-568-2349 -fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: [WSG] Re: IE with Gecko Was: Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Justin French
On 07/04/2004, at 5:50 PM, Leo J. O'Campo wrote: Maybe we as a standard based community should knock on $MS's door and shout I'm mad as hell and I'm not going take it anymore. Pffft. A bunch of web standards geeks like us (no matter how large, it's still just a tiny fraction of the entire web

[WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Carmichael
Hello list, I'm trying to construct a simple bar graph using minimal markup yet let it remain fairly flexible in CSS. [0] Here is a link to what I have built so far. The first problem I'm trying to tackle so far is that the second part to the graph doesn't reflect the width it's supposed to.

[WSG] feedback and question

2004-04-07 Thread The Snider's Web
Hi Everyone, I have been lurking on the list for a while and have really enjoyed it, this group seems very helpful and friendly. I found this list through the css-f one. I am starting to get my act together in terms of html standards, css and accessibility-lots to learn! I thought I would dive

[WSG] WAI3 in a strict DOCTYPE

2004-04-07 Thread Ryan Christie
I've run into a wall. I wasn't trying for WAI Level 3, but I've usually been pretty close to achieving it. Bobby always yells at me to specify the language of the document using the attribute lang=en in the HTML header. W3C tells me though that lang=en isn't a valid attribute. Do you have to

Re: [WSG] feedback and question

2004-04-07 Thread Felix Miata
The Snider's Web wrote: -I just did a site redesign and wanted to get feedback. This site was tough as it had to be fully bilingual on each page and the fourth biggest group of users use Netscape 3!!! How did I get so lucky? http://www.c-l-c.ca/mainpage.html It's nice to see a page that

Re: [WSG] WAI3 in a strict DOCTYPE

2004-04-07 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I've run into a wall. I wasn't trying for WAI Level 3, but I've usually been pretty close to achieving it. Bobby always yells at me to specify the language of the document using the attribute lang=en in the HTML header. W3C tells me though that lang=en isn't a valid attribute. Do you have to

Re: [WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Carmichael
Adam Carmichael wrote: The third and final problem is that several themes I'm planning on using it with may want to have different width so it needs to be fairly fluidic. I tried using percentages with this but I got no where. I woke up and got somewhere on the [1] percentage based layout over

Re: [WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Carmichael
Adam Carmichael wrote: Adam Carmichael wrote: The third and final problem is that several themes I'm planning on using it with may want to have different width so it needs to be fairly fluidic. I tried using percentages with this but I got no where. I woke up and got somewhere on the [1]

Re: [WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread James Ellis
Adam I've done this for our users - both a stacked horizontal bar graph and stacked vertical bar graph. It works across *all* useful browsers (including IE5+) funnily enough and is very simple to do. To see it and the markup you'll have to join up with SpamTrap as it's not in a public area.

Re: [WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread Chuck
Heres a variation on your setup. http://www.eatons.net/test/bargraphs.html -chuck === On Wednesday, April 7, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Adam Carmichael wrote: Hello list, I'm trying to construct a simple bar graph using minimal markup yet let it remain fairly flexible in

Re: [WSG] Re: IE with Gecko Was: Relative Fonts

2004-04-07 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Pffft. A bunch of web standards geeks like us (no matter how large, it's still just a tiny fraction of the entire web community) will have no impact whatsoever on MS's plans in regards to IE. Justin... If everyone thought that way there would never be progress. Luckily Apple inc didn't with

[WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port

2004-04-07 Thread Mike Kear
I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but if the window reduces in size, the footer goes over the top of other page content. What I'd like to do is have the footer stick to the bottom of the browser, except ifit collides with other page content, which will push it down

[WSG] CENTERING SITE WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

2004-04-07 Thread Jackie Reid
Hi all... I have a couple of problems here that i dont seem to be able to nut out, any help would be greatly appreciated if there is anyone around on the day before the easter break. Firstly the site centers just fine in ie but is aligned left in firefox...why is this so? Secondly and more

RE: [WSG] Problem and can't validate

2004-04-07 Thread Taco Fleur
Cheers, I will look into that, is there one for Mozilla that anyone knows of? Even if I use it, I am sure it won't validate, I am stuck with using some elements that do not validate, no way around it. -Original Message- From: Manuel González Noriega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WSG] bar graph with html 4.01 strict + css

2004-04-07 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Adam The first problem I'm trying to tackle so far is that the second part to the graph doesn't reflect the width it's supposed to. Use a containment box so that your graph will be a percentage of the 100% width of the containment box. The second problem is that it probably won't scale too

Re: [WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port

2004-04-07 Thread Michael Allan
Ah, that old chestnut ;-) There was a good article in ALA about this recently: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/footers/ HTH. Cheers, Mike On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 05:01 PM, Mike Kear wrote: I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but if the window reduces

Re: [WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port

2004-04-07 Thread Benjamin
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/footers/ that should have what you need I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but if the window reduces in size, the footer goes over the top of other page content. BRBRWhat I'd like to do is have the footer stick to the bottom

Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

2004-04-07 Thread Benjamin
put margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; in your global wrapping div or on the table class your using alternatively you could set your body tag to a width of 760px and do the same This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Hi all... I have a couple of problems here that i dont