Just a quick question..
I am wondering what techniques people would use to layout a paragraph of
text with two right floated images and have the text wrap around the
images as shown.
The main thing is the two images need to both be bottom aligned to each
other ;)
I have a couple of ideas, but
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me if/when it is 'OK' to use frames? Since the W3C spec
still includes them, I wondered (if) when it was considered legit to employ
them - on a par with tables, which are avoided at all costs, except when
displaying 'tabular data'. So I assume the W3C have included
hi,
Can anyone tell me if/when it is 'OK' to use frames? Since the W3C spec
still includes them, I wondered (if) when it was considered legit to employ
them - on a par with tables, which are avoided at all costs, except when
displaying 'tabular data'. So I assume the W3C have included
I develop sites primarily for Opera and Firefox and then downgrade for IE6.
I occasionally check in Safari.
Opera/Gecko/Safari get fully-featured website. IE6 almost (except some
:hover/:focus, etc) and generally I don't care about anything else.
If client pays extra I add stylesheet+scripting
I design on the mac so I first test on Safari and then Camino.
Then I go to my PC or VNC it and test on IE6.0 and Firefox. Firefox
and Camino have slight differences e.g. form behaviour and font-size in
form inputs so it's important to test in both.
And then I test on Opera on the mac.
Neerav,
we develop for Firefox and test while developing from time to time
in Opera (7). If everything is done, we check in IE6 and Safari and
tweak the code (using conditional comments for IE).
After that we check in IE5 (Win), but just if anything breaks the
layout completly.
IE5
hello.
I was looking over the list navigation article at
http://www.complexspiral.com/events/archive/2003/seybold/cssnav.html
lia href=index.html id=homeWidgetCo Home/a/li
what is the id=home used for in this href?
theres no css rule for it in the styles for that page?
-kvnmcwebn
I test on a PC using Firefox and IE5 (one good browser and one rubbish one). I
find that if I test on both of these browsers as I go along, it tends to
minimise the amount of tweaks I have to do later on. It's worked for my last
few sites anyway.
Once completed I test in Opera and Netscape
Kvnmcwebn
I was looking over the list navigation article at
http://www.complexspiral.com/events/archive/2003/seybold/cssnav.html
what is the id=home used for in this href?
If you look halfway down that page, you'll see the section titled
Link Highlighting. The CSS there shows what you can
On Wed, 11 May 2005 19:49:36 -0400, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I was looking over the list navigation article at
http://www.complexspiral.com/events/archive/2003/seybold/cssnav.html
lia href=index.html id=homeWidgetCo Home/a/li
what is the id=home used for in this href?
Could be an
On 12 May 2005, at 10:44 PM, Tom Livingston wrote:
Could be an Ooops.
No, not at all. Even if there's no CSS that references it, it provides
a hook if you *do* want to style that element individually later on...
I always give my nav links unique IDs for that purpose.
N
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
On 12 May 2005, at 10:44 PM, Tom Livingston wrote:
Could be an Ooops.
No, not at all. Even if there's no CSS that references it, it provides a
hook if you *do* want to style that element individually later on... I
always give my nav links unique IDs for that purpose.
it
On Thu, 12 May 2005 08:54:40 -0400, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
if you *do* want to style that element
Good idea.
Although, for a file size miser, it might seem a waste. Especially if you
have extensive nav/links...
--
Tom Livingston
Senior Multimedia Artist
mlinc.com
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Sometimes frames make good sense to use.
I created a web page checker / validator using an XHTML frameset for the
results:
http://www.websemantics.co.uk/pilotworkshop/page_checker/
I believe the use is both semantic and accessible.
It was created as an example of framesets rather than as a
Our current list is:
Windows 2000/XP
Mac OS 10 +
Browsers:
IE 6.0 +
Netscape 7 +
Firefox 1 +
Mozilla 1.7 +
Safari
We are a company, with most of our users are IE6 on Windows. They're
in industries where the flashiest newest is not a proirity. We until
recently fully supported IE 5/5.5 but no
Neerav wrote:
I havent asked this for a while so it would be interesting to know
what the current trend in Browser/Operating system support is for the
freelancers/corporates on this list to see if there has been any
change in the last 6-12 months
I think of people stuck with old browsers, the
On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:56:10 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think of people stuck with old browsers, the same way I think of people
using keyboard navigation, etc.
I believe browser support is accessibility, so I spend time tweaking my
sheets, *trying* to make my sites look
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Stephen
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From: Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: [WSG] Reapplying your CSS when the page length changes
I have some JavaScript code that causes some content to
I am doing some work which involves resizing objects using JavaScript.
However, properties like offsetHeight, innerHeight and clientHeight are not
listed in the references here:
http://www.w3schools.com/
Does that mean the guide at W3Schools is not very good, or that these
properties are not
Stevio
Where can I
find a reference guide of JavaScript properties that are
supported across
all browsers?
In an ideal world, standard DOM should be supported by most modern
browsers (although you may still come across some quirks in certain
browsers' implementations)
Try this and see if it helps. Place it between the head tags.
!-- to correct the unsightly Flash of Unstyled Content.
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp --
script type=text/javascript/script
Parker
On 5/11/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Stephen
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
Pretty does not mean accessible.
OK, I should have said look good and functional ;-)
For example, when DIVs overlap, links become unclickable, content disappear.
etc.
I think it's better to spend time on
some WAI checkpoints rather than adding display tweaks for NN4 and
For what it's worth, I thought this style sheet might be interesting.
We have a navigation that can be as deep as three nested elements. This
style sheet is imported as nav.css. Each body is given a series of class
elements (class=sub1 sub1sub1 asub1sub1) or something similar, depending
on where
On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:35:24 -0400, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
For what it's worth, I thought this style sheet might be interesting.
[...]
Thanks for sharing. BTW, Value for color#333 is empty(28 instances).
David Laakso
--
http://www.dlaakso.com/
Ted,
Do you have a URL for a page that show's this in action?
Mary
On 12 May 2005, at 17:35, Drake, Ted C. wrote:
For what it's worth, I thought this style sheet might be interesting.
We have a navigation that can be as deep as three nested elements. This
style sheet is imported as nav.css. Each
Hi Mary
It's for an intranet, so I can't show it right now.
The purpose of this convoluted scheme was to make a navigation scheme that
could work on thousands of pages without inline styles.
I used something similar on this site: http://www.csatravelprotection.com
I think there is an article on
I have a page that works ok using an IFrame to load some content from
another web site into this frame.
The page is XHTML 1.0 Transitional compatible using an IFrame. To make it
XHTML 1.0 Strict compatible, I would need to remove the IFrame and replace
it with an object, from what I
I have some content that is hidden and only displayed using JavaScript.
However, when JavaScript is disabled, I want to display all of the content
to start with.
I can do this by redefining styles within a noscript tag within the head
section. Display: none is changed to Display: block for the
Try this technique from Seriocomic.com
http://www.seriocomic.com/rhetoric/posts/2005/05/02/the-one-about-v8/#more-5
91
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stevio
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:38 PM
To: JS-Jive; Web Standards Group
Subject:
On 12 May 2005 22:38
Stevio wrote
I have some content that is hidden and only displayed using JavaScript.
However, when JavaScript is disabled, I want to display all of
the content to start with.
...
It doesn't like the style declaration
within the noscript tags. In fact, am I right in
Stevio wrote:
I have some content that is hidden and only displayed using JavaScript.
However, when JavaScript is disabled, I want to display all of the
content to start with.
I can do this by redefining styles within a noscript tag within the head
section. Display: none is changed to Display:
I can´t see other way to create a chat page
without frames. This is the only (IMHO) thing I
use frames.
Of course, there are many ways to use it, as
evil ways, but in a chat you got to have two
frames, at least: one where you put the form,
and another where you read the messages. This
one
I can do this by redefining styles within a noscript tag within the head
section. Display: none is changed to Display: block for the various
elements. However, my page does not then validate as being valid XHTML 1.0
Transitional code when I do this. It doesn't like the style declaration
within
...or width: 380px; ...?
Ben Crothers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Pepper
Sent: Friday, 13 May 2005 10:48 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] IE won't play
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Mike, but that didn't work. I tried reducing the width from
390px to 385px and also changing to width: 100%, neither worked. This
is so frustrating.
w
Wayne Godfrey
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On May 12, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Mike Pepper wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wayne Godfrey
Sent: 13 May 2005 02:10
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE won't play
Thanks Mike, but that didn't work. I tried reducing the width from
390px to 385px and also
The 380px worked for the top h1 but now IE is centering the h2 text
underneath, even though the CSS says align left. Getting there, but why
is IE doing this?
w
Wayne Godfrey
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On May 12, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Ben Crothers wrote:
...or width: 380px; ...?
Ben Crothers
-Original
On 5/12/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Using Object (using data attribute) to replace IFrame (using src attribute)
works ok except in Internet Explorer, where the frame has some sort of
bevelled border effect and the html file from the other site doesn't load
into the object. If I load
In regard to Ten questions for Joe Clark:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/joe-clark.cfm
This is an interesting article but in answer to question 9 Joe suggests scope
as being the most effective way to associate different-level headers and data
cells.
Unfortunately neither Window Eyes nor
I think the best bet would be to use id and headers
Grant, I agree totally. In my experience, while scope is easier to use for
developers, as it requires far less individual coding, it is far less
supported than id and header.
Scope also has another major downside. It cannot tie together
Not sure if it's possible to do precisely. To get the text to flow above and
left means you will have to put the image inline in the text, which means they
will jump around a bit depending on the font size and width of the text block.
I got the following code to sort-of work by setting the
Hi Wayne,
Looks like it's the set width that you're using. If you're already using
margins on the H2, why not dispense with the width and add the right margin,
like so:
#main #homer h2 {
font-size: 117%;
font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: 0.06em;
line-height:
Thanks Geoff
I had that one in mind, I'll give it a go..
I had hope to get some CSS/P that would work across any page without
having to modify the images or position it in the text.
I could chop the image horizontally ( see attachment ) a-la Meyer
curvelicious [1]
Thanks
Chris
[1]
Curvelicious/ragged float: interesting technique, but why chop up the image?
Better to leave it as a single positioned image (low z-index), and use
transparent shims (remember those?) to push the text around. That way you still
get the image in one piece when the page is viewed without CSS.
Hi,
I posted on a similar question to wai-ig (but about how this kind of
DHTML is with a screen reader) and got a lot of interesting replys.
The thread is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2005AprJun/0203.html if
you are interested. I haven't had time to check it all out properly
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