Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-02 Thread Joshua Street
Short answer: you can't. And, given general browser capabilities when it comes to scaling/resampling of images, a site that uses a resized background indiscriminately can't possibly look good at all resolutions. Probably best to make an image that fades off to whatever colour your

[WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
What is the best way to get a 100% width on a background image in a banner? I believe in fluid sites that look good in all resolutions, img tag works easy at 100% width, but even searching for hours on google didn't help for css background sizing in %. Anyone can help? Thanks in advance.

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
Can you give an example of what you mean? From: Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 1 August 2005 8:12 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] background images fluid What is the best

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Jan Brasna
Bitmap grpahic is not intended to be rescaled/stretched. You can tile it, or combine it (like on mozillazine), but no stretching, please... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Vicki Berry
Jan Brasna wrote: Bitmap grpahic is not intended to be rescaled/stretched. You can tile it, or combine it (like on mozillazine), but no stretching, please... That's right. What I'd probably do (not having seen your banner) is - if the image doesn't stretch forever and isn't suitable to be

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread designer
Hi Bruce, Try http://www.edgedesigns.com.au/resourcedw.htm. Not sure just how relevant this is, but it's a Dreamweaver extension (free) which you may be able to adapt to use in a div? (Not checked!) Bob Bruce wrote: What is the best way to get a 100% width on a background image in a

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Andreas Boehmer wrote: Can you give an example of what you mean? A header or banner at the top. I can put an image in there: div id=banner img src=anything.jpg width=100% height=120px alt=mynicebanner / /div It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. But I cannot make it do

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Peter Goddard
Subject: Re: [WSG] background images fluid Andreas Boehmer wrote: Can you give an example of what you mean? A header or banner at the top. I can put an image in there: div id=banner img src=anything.jpg width=100% height=120px alt=mynicebanner / /div It will size according to the resolution

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. Not stretching, not static, though: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Vicki Berry wrote: if the image doesn't stretch forever [***I can't get it to stretch at all, thats the problem***] and isn't suitable to be repeated - to have a fluid section of the banner with a background image set to repeat in the CSS, and with the un-repeatable image on one side,

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Ingo Chao wrote: Bruce schrieb: It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. Not stretching, not static, though: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html Ingo That's it!! Thank you Ingo Awesome Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - just got a solution.

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread leenath1
Hi Bruce, I had a quick look at your current header and see what you are trying to do. At the end of the day I think you need to just be a bit more clever with your image. I *borrowed* your current image and did a very crude editing job to it so it will look good at the avg resolution, but

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I have an image on my own website of a sunset. I put it in the banner div as an image and set the width to 100%. I am perfectly happy with it, it looks good and stretches to fit all resolutions. There is nothing wrong with it at all. At 1024 it fills the

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: That's it!! Bruce, I didn't expect that this attempt works for you. You need a very big image, resulting in 25k. --- You can choose a focus of the picture, which determines the percentage-value for the background-position. This makes the image look fixed (here: x=30%),

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread chris
Another alternative would be to produce the image for a largish resolution (e.g. 1024), set max-width to 1024 and set width to 100%. I believe readability begins to decrease above 1280 - surely there's some research on maximum widths and readability somewhere. - Chris www.semioticpixels.com

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. ... I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the stylesheet as a background. That's all. Ingo did a demo as a background image of a h1 tag. I thought that would work. Using the EXACT same code that he used, in

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Martin Heiden
Bruce, I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I have an image on my own website of a sunset. I put it in the banner div as an image and set the width to 100%. I am perfectly happy with it, it looks good and stretches to fit all resolutions. There is nothing wrong with it at all. At 1024

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bert Doorn
Bruce wrote: I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the stylesheet as a background. That's all. Short answer: No, you cannot, with CSS and HTML as it is today, resize a background image. The only properties

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Thank you to all who responded. I see that it is a problem with CSS at present. Partial solution seems to be making the image wide (I had it at 720px or thereabouts) I made the image itself 1026w, and 11k, now it sscales nicely, and for larger res the fade or framed with another image seems the

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Result: http://peoriaaz.nexcess.net/index.php Anyways, that's what all the fuss was about. Site was just started this morning. Done in Expression Engine. Redoing everything yet. Thanks again Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions ** The

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Bruce Instead of stretching an image, try the sliding doors approach. This may seem odd in a photograph, but could work in situations where the image has a repeatable section. #wrap gets the left corner with generic content. #innerwrap gets the right side with the juicy part of the image.

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread dwain
Bruce wrote: Looks like a perfect solution. At least as perfect as can be had. Thanks to all who ansered. Funny how it can be easily done as an image IN the banner , but not in staylesheet. wait 'til css3 and you can use an svg image in the background, that will do exactly what you want.