Lea de Groot wrote:
Sadly, I've been unable to find any evidence of semantic code helping
SEO, or even of the bots preferring semantic code, *except* for the
unproven possibility of code so badly formed that a searchbot cant
figure out the content of the page. (ie code that validates wont have
in CSS for that reason alone. But, I'd
really love to be proven wrong.
Chris Rizzo
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Chris,
A few issues with CSS spamming:
http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/enigma_log0411.htm
I've not touched on all the techniques
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:24:29 +1000, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, not particularly - the search engines dont seem to be semantic at all.
In my experience - and seo is part of my job - search engines *do*
place higher relevance on keywords inside H1 tags.
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Kay Smoljak
Google don't always use the Google bot user agent string - one of
their techniques is to use an IE user agent string from a different
subnet and compare it to what Google-bot gets. They also have very
good methods of rendering content to analyse its visual output. This
covers javascript tricks,
Mark Stanton wrote:
Basically don't waste your time trying to out smart a company with
that many PHDs and that much RD budget. There are good ways of
getting results in Google without silly tricks that will get you
banned. Write good content, get good links.
...Yet they can't produce a single
On 28 Jan 2005, at 01:28, Mike Pepper wrote:
Take a look at some fought over keyphrases like 'website development'
in
Google UK. You'll find many sites spamming with irrelevant noscript,
off-screen absolute positioned text, minute text, hidden layers, even
some
cretins with WOW (white-on-white)
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so important to SEO. I'd like to be
proven wrong though.
Chris
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I'm not sure
Mike Pepper wrote:
I have sent literally hundreds of mails to Google illustrating exactly
what
the miscreants are doing and how. I take SEO seriously and know most
if not
all the techniques. They have never responded in any way other than
their
automated responders. I eventually gave up in the
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:04 +1100, Ryan Sabir wrote:
Does anyone have a definitive answer on whether search engines take
any notice of CSS?
If you examine your log files, you will find that Googlebot et al never
call for your css file.
Thus they are not viewing it, and not using it to
I'm not sure if they do. But what I can tell you is that there is no
point at all to try and fool search engines.
Search engines (google) will give you more rank if your site is honest,
well built and on topic. You can try all the tricks in the world...but
the fact remains: if your site is
Darren Wood wrote:
if your site is good then people will link to it, if
lots of people link to it then google will be more inclined to like your
site too.
Thats how the concept of googlejuice works anyway, the more links a
page has pointing to it, the higher up it gets
...Which can be a bummer
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:04 +1100, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a definitive answer on whether search engines take
any notice of CSS?
I don't think so.
Someone could develop their page full of H1's with dodgy keywords,
and simply not display the content of those H1's. We
I remember reading a quote from a Google tech. stating that while
their system is capable of reading/interpreting CSS, they don't do so
due to the excess load it would create.
I also remember the same quote mentioning something about sites only
getting penalised if someone lodges a complaint
Take a look at some fought over keyphrases like 'website development' in
Google UK. You'll find many sites spamming with irrelevant noscript,
off-screen absolute positioned text, minute text, hidden layers, even some
cretins with WOW (white-on-white) text.
And you know what? Google doesn't do a
It is my understanding that Google doesn't parse or index .css files,
let alone test the whether the css modifies to HTML in a manner
designed to manipulate rankings.
Try it yourself. Try and find your own websites .css file indexed in
Google by searching on the full filename of the .css file.
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