Ian,
The only think I would add is a check to make sure that a browser
understands the methods you are using. Avoiding an error caused
because a browser doesn't understand var container =
document.getElementById(copy) is almost as important as making
sure that the site works without
I'm reworking a site to get it up to web standards.
Tables should be used only to contain tabular data
Would current accepted practices be:
If it can be done without a table that should be first choice.
or
Is there a definition of what is considered tabular data (or is it in
the eyes of
Bob Schwartz wrote:
like this in the load function?
if (!document.getElementsById) return false;
Bob
Yes, just like that. I think my favourite method (as used by PPK at
http://www.quirksmode.org/) is to use the following:
var W3CDOM = (document.createElement document.getElementsByTagName);
Thanks, I'll update my code.
Getting there and learning in the process.
Bob Schwartz wrote:
like this in the load function?
if (!document.getElementsById) return false;
Bob
Yes, just like that. I think my favourite method (as used by PPK at
http://www.quirksmode.org/) is to use the
Bob Schwartz wrote:
I'm reworking a site to get it up to web standards.
Tables should be used only to contain tabular data
The simplest expansion of this is:
- do *not* use tables to lay out a page.
- use tables _within_ a page when dealing with tabular data.
Would this be acceptable for
Bob Schwartz wrote:
Is there a definition of what is considered tabular data (or is it in
the eyes of the beholder)?
Would this be acceptable for using a table:
http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/org/org_jdg_sdt_lst.html
This looks like a candidate for a table but my concern would be that the
table
Bob
Using tabular form should be the first choice; where you have what is
naturally a table. What you have is clearly a table. I would suggest that
if reworking this and really taking the needs of users into account; maybe
breaking the data into a series of smaller tables (possibly based
Chris, Georg,
Thanks for the information.
Regarding the table used to construct the page and the cent table not
being well constructed, etc.: those are reasons why I am redoing the
site.
My only concern here was to have an example of what you guys consider
a candidate for tabular data
Hi Rebecca,
Screen readers handling of JavaScript events are a real pain as not only do
different screen readers handle HTML and CSS differently but this is also
true of their handling of JavaScript. Typically as no content should be
inaccessible without JS if you must hide content from a
Is there a definition of what is considered tabular data (or is it in
the eyes of the beholder)?
If you would put it in a spreadsheet, it belongs in a table. Your
example is tabular data.
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Perhaps a logical definition of tabular data is data whose meaning is
defined by its position in a set of rows and columns?
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The tabular data thread reminds me of one I participated in in another
group.
The original post was:
quote
I have a page with a list of officers of an organization. It's an obvious
application for a table because that's what tables were designed for. But I
wanted it to look the way it did in the
i don't think you are missing anything. imo what you are proposing in your
example is not tabular data at all. it's content followed by a string of
dots ending in more content. if you are critized for thinking this is
tabular data, then you should be critized; but, if you are being critized
I tend to think of tabular data as that which, if you were to pull one row
out at random and without reference to the column headings, it wouldn't
make a lot of sense. That's not the case with your example where it's
fairly obvious how the two pieces of information are related.
On Wed, 07
Do you consider a table the best tool to mark this up? Or at least as good
as anything else?
I think it could either be a table or a definition list.
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A table seems fine as would a definition list.
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Tables are the go Thierry. The names and functions are always correctly
justified that way.
Not only that the dots look clunky, like a word document user who hasn't
yet discovered tabs, and so just uses stops or the space bar.
best
Rob
Robert Robinson BSS (Applied Psych Pers Mgt IR)
after reading the comments posted here, i guess that standards are what
makes you feel good.
maybe having a set in stone definition of what is tabular data and what
isn't would be easier than what we have? it seems to me that the intent of
the author plays a big role in how the document is
Not only that the dots look clunky, like a word document user who hasn't yet
discovered tabs, and so just uses stops or the space bar.
If the dots were essential, they should be created using CSS (definitely
presentational as they are there to help line up the two blocks of content).
This would
Sorry if this has already come up... but have you seen these?
http://www.lenef.com/dotleader/
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/dot-leaders.html
On 3/7/07, Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i don't think you are missing anything. imo what you are proposing in
your example is
Dwain Alford wrote:
maybe having a set in stone definition of what is tabular data and
what isn't would be easier than what we have?
if it was easy to come up with a definitive definition, then yes.
ok, i'll just splurge out two random things that popped into my
head...the way i see it,
David Pietersen wrote:
Sorry if this has already come up... but have you seen these?
http://www.lenef.com/dotleader/
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/dot-leaders.html
I would suggest that the last one was an example of *table* of contents.
John Faulds said:
I tend to think
ok, i'll bite. how does it change the meaning? i really don't understand
what you mean. after reading a later post about screen readers and how they
would go crazy with the dots, that i understand; but again, i don't
understand your statement about changing the meaning. what is the meaning
in
Dwain Alford wrote:
ok, i'll bite. how does it change the meaning? i really don't
understand what you mean. after reading a later post about screen
readers and how they would go crazy with the dots, that i
understand;
but again, i don't understand your statement about changing the
meaning.
At 3/5/2007 08:44 PM, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
http://geofeat.com/
Nice site, Sarah.
If you look at the home page with images turned off you'll see that
there's no site title -- the graphic logo disappears and you've
positioned the text head (Geofeat - all things green, eco-friendly
and
Thank you in advance for this question, I know it's probably stretching
what WSG is here for.
What does targetnamespace do? Is it setting a default namespace for that
schema?
Take for instance this example:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/#po1.xsd
schema
i don't think you are missing anything. imo what you are proposing
Actually I think I was missing something, because in my opinion, this was a
no brainer and I didn't expect these answers at all.
For me if it fits in a two column table then it's not tabular data. I have a
need for a table when
thanks for your explanation.
dwain
On 3/7/07, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i don't think you are missing anything. imo what you are proposing
Actually I think I was missing something, because in my opinion, this was
a
no brainer and I didn't expect these answers at all.
For me
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