[desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
The solutions you propose add clutter to the menus, in the form of parens or dashes, just to cover up the fact that there is no good way to combine the two fields that does not cause translation problems. If you don't like parens or dashes, use the more modern two-line solution,

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Diumenge, 2 d'agost de 2009, Luca Ferretti va escriure: The solutions you propose add clutter to the menus, in the form of parens or dashes, just to cover up the fact that there is no good way to combine the two fields that does not cause translation problems. If you don't

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 02 août 2009 à 17:17 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit : This is an error in Italian language, it should be This is the same in French Summarizing: to have an homogeneous inteface, the proposed FullName key is a menace :) I suggest to check how many languages are not confortable

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Albert Astals Cid wrote: But adding FullName to solve that is not a good idea either, Name is already FullName. No, it's not. In the above example, Name would be Epiphany, and GenericName would be Web Browser. FullName would be Epiphany Web Browser. So Name != FullName. Emilio

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/8/2 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: This is an error in Italian language, it should be Epiphany web browser (see the case of Web/web). This is just a fictional example, just to show that the programmaticall approach couldn't be good for some languages (I repeat, some language, and it's

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/8/2 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: The programmatical approach is an English-only approach that only works because English is a very simple language that lets you collate words without changes in pretty much any order and get valid sentences nevertheless. Chauvinist!!! :D

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Diumenge, 2 d'agost de 2009, Luca Ferretti va escriure: 2009/8/2 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: This is an error in Italian language, it should be Epiphany web browser (see the case of Web/web). This is just a fictional example, just to show that the programmaticall approach couldn't be

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 02 août 2009 à 18:48 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit : 2009/8/2 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: The programmatical approach is an English-only approach that only works because English is a very simple language that lets you collate words without changes in pretty

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/8/2 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: As i said, the problem is that trying to use the two keys to create a third one is wrong and software that does that should be fixed not to. [cut] The question is, do we REALLY need a new key? What's the use case? Menus only? If it's menus, can't we

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:40:25 +0200 Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote: 2009/8/2 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: As i said, the problem is that trying to use the two keys to create a third one is wrong and software that does that should be fixed not to. [cut] The question is,

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/8/2 Jannis Pohlmann jan...@xfce.org: Is it really worth breaking so many applications by adding FullName and changing the meaning of Name? Well, the meaning of Name, as per Desktop Entry Spec is Specific name of the application, for example Mozilla. while GenericName is Generic

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Rex Dieter
Jannis Pohlmann wrote: Well, according to the GNOME HIG, applications are supposed to have their Name set to e.g. Epiphany Web Browser or Nautilus File Manager [1]. (It doesn't explicitely say that, but if you want Epiphany Web Browser to be displayed in menus, setting Name to this is the

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 16:48 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Jannis Pohlmann wrote: Well, according to the GNOME HIG, applications are supposed to have their Name set to e.g. Epiphany Web Browser or Nautilus File Manager [1]. (It doesn't explicitely say that, but if you want Epiphany Web

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-08-02 Thread Rex Dieter
On 08/02/2009 05:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 16:48 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Jannis Pohlmann wrote: Well, according to the GNOME HIG, applications are supposed to have their Name set to e.g. Epiphany Web Browser or Nautilus File Manager [1]. (It doesn't explicitely