Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + default blocksize

2007-11-12 Thread Roch - PAE
Louwtjie Burger writes: Hi What is the impact of not aligning the DB blocksize (16K) with ZFS, especially when it comes to random reads on single HW RAID LUN. How would one go about measuring the impact (if any) on the workload? The DB will have a bigger in memory footprint as

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS very slow under xVM

2007-11-12 Thread Martin
IIn this PC, I'm using the PCI card http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000gt_desktop_adapter.htm , but, more recentlyI'm using the PCI Express card http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000pt_desktop_adapter.htm Note that the latter didn't have PXE and the

[zfs-discuss] Intent Log removal

2007-11-12 Thread Cyril Plisko
Hi ! I played recently with Gigabyte i-RAM card (which is basically an SSD) as a log device for a ZFS pool. However, when I tried to remove it - I need to give the card back - it refused to do so. It looks like I am hitting 6574286 removing a slog doesn't work [1] Is there any workaround ? I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intent Log removal

2007-11-12 Thread Neelakanth Nadgir
You could always replace this device by another one of same, or bigger size using zpool replace. -neel Cyril Plisko wrote: Hi ! I played recently with Gigabyte i-RAM card (which is basically an SSD) as a log device for a ZFS pool. However, when I tried to remove it - I need to give the card

Re: [zfs-discuss] Modify fsid/guid of dataset for NFS failover

2007-11-12 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 10, 2007, at 23:16, Carson Gaspar wrote: Mattias Pantzare wrote: As the fsid is created when the file system is created it will be the same when you mount it on a different NFS server. Why change it? Or are you trying to match two different file systems? Then you also have to match

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intent Log removal

2007-11-12 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Nov 12, 2007 5:51 PM, Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could always replace this device by another one of same, or bigger size using zpool replace. Indeed. Provided that I always have an unused device of same or bigger size, which is seldom the case. :( -neel Cyril

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intent Log removal

2007-11-12 Thread Tim Spriggs
Cyril Plisko wrote: On Nov 12, 2007 5:51 PM, Neelakanth Nadgir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could always replace this device by another one of same, or bigger size using zpool replace. Indeed. Provided that I always have an unused device of same or bigger size, which is seldom the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Response to phantom dd-b post

2007-11-12 Thread can you guess?
In the previous and current responses, you seem quite determined of others misconceptions. I'm afraid that your sentence above cannot be parsed grammatically. If you meant that I *have* determined that some people here are suffering from various misconceptions, that's correct. Given

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-11-12 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 02:05:04PM -0200, Toby Thain wrote: Yup - that's exactly the kind of error that ZFS and WAFL do a perhaps uniquely good job of catching. WAFL can't catch all: It's distantly isolated from the CPU end. How so? The checksumming method is different from ZFS, but as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Error: Volume size exceeds limit for this system

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Murray
Thanks for the help guys - unfortunately the only hardware at my disposal just at the minute is all 32 bit, so I'll just have to wait a while and fork out on some 64-bit kit before I get the drives. I'm a home user so I'm glad I didnt buy the drives and discover I couldnt use them without

Re: [zfs-discuss] mdb ::memstat including zfs buffer details?

2007-11-12 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Nov 8, 2007 4:21 PM, Nathan Kroenert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all - Just a quick one... Is there any plan to update the mdb ::memstat dcmd to present ZFS buffers as part of the summary? At present, we get something like: ::memstat Page SummaryPages

Re: [zfs-discuss] Response to phantom dd-b post

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Schuller
You have to detect the problem first. ZFS is in a much better position to detect the problem due to block checksums. Bulls***, to quote another poster here who has since been strangely quiet. The vast majority of what ZFS can detect (save for *extremely* rare undetectable bit-rot and

Re: [zfs-discuss] mdb ::memstat including zfs buffer details?

2007-11-12 Thread johansen
I don't think it should be too bad (for ::memstat), given that (at least in Nevada), all of the ZFS caching data belongs to the zvp vnode, instead of kvp. ZFS data buffers are attached to zvp; however, we still keep metadata in the crashdump. At least right now, this means that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Modify fsid/guid of dataset for NFS failover

2007-11-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
asa wrote: I would like for all my NFS clients to hang during the failover, then pick up trucking on this new filesystem, perhaps obviously failing their writes back to the apps which are doing the writing. Naive? The OpenSolaris NFS client does this already - has done since IIRC around

Re: [zfs-discuss] mdb ::memstat including zfs buffer details?

2007-11-12 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Nov 12, 2007 4:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it should be too bad (for ::memstat), given that (at least in Nevada), all of the ZFS caching data belongs to the zvp vnode, instead of kvp. ZFS data buffers are attached to zvp; however, we still keep metadata in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best option for my home file server?

2007-11-12 Thread Christopher
I went ahead and bought a M9N-Sli motherboard with 6 sata controllers and also a promise tx4 (4x sata300 non-raid) pci controller. Anyone know if the tx4 is suppoerted in OpenSolaris? If it's as badly supported as the (crappy) Sil chipsets i'm better of with OpenFiler (linux) I think. This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-11-12 Thread can you guess?
Thanks for taking the time to flesh these points out. Comments below: ... The compression I see varies from something like 30% to 50%, very roughly (files reduced *by* 30%, not files reduced *to* 30%). This is with the Nikon D200, compressed NEF option. On some of the lower-level

Re: [zfs-discuss] Response to phantom dd-b post

2007-11-12 Thread can you guess?
Well, I guess we're going to remain stuck in this sub-topic for a bit longer: The vast majority of what ZFS can detect (save for *extremely* rare undetectable bit-rot and for real hardware (path-related) errors that studies like CERN's have found to be very rare - and you have yet to

[zfs-discuss] zdb internals?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Ashley
I don't have time to RTFS so I was curious if there was a guide on using zdb, and does it do any writing of the zfs information? The binary has a lot of options which aren't clear what do what. I'm looking for any tools that let you do low level fiddling with things such as broken zpools. ta,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + default blocksize

2007-11-12 Thread Anton B. Rang
Yes. Blocks are compressed individually, so a smaller block size will (on average) lead to less compression. (Assuming that your data is compressible at all, that is.) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-11-12 Thread Selim Daoud
some business do not accept any kind of risk and hence will try hard (i.e spend a lot of money) to eliminate it (create 2, 3, 4 copies, read-verify, cksum...) at the moment only ZFS can give this assurance, plus the ability to self correct detected errors. It's a good things that ZFS can help

[zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-12 Thread Louwtjie Burger
Hi After a clean database load a database would (should?) look like this, if a random stab at the data is taken... [8KB-m][8KB-n][8KB-o][8KB-p]... The data should be fairly (100%) sequential in layout ... after some days though that same spot (using ZFS) would problably look like: [8KB-m][