Re: [zfs-discuss] Replicating ZFS filesystems with non-standard mount points

2008-07-28 Thread Trevor Watson
I have had the same problem too, but managed to work around it by setting the mountpoint to none before performing the ZFS send. But that only works on file-systems you can quiesce. How about making a clone of your snapshot, then set the mounpoint of the clone to none, take a snapshot of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread BG
So we finnaly got arround the problem, after replacing almost everything it seems that the memory was the devil. I pulled it out and replaced it with ECC memory and now everything works fine for 14 days already. This knowing i will never putt non ecc memory in my boxes again. thanks for al the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Replicating ZFS filesystems with non-standard mount points

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Burlison
Trevor Watson wrote: I have had the same problem too, but managed to work around it by setting the mountpoint to none before performing the ZFS send. But that only works on file-systems you can quiesce. Yeah, and / is always going to be a bit of a problem ;-) How about making a clone of

[zfs-discuss] 'referenced' bigger than 'volsize'?

2008-07-28 Thread Thomas Pfohe
Hi, a zfs create -V 1M pool/foo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/zvol/rdsk/pool/foo bs=1k count=1k (using Nevada b94) yields zfs get all pool/foo pool/foo used 1,09M - pool/foo referenced 1,09M - pool/foo volsize 1M-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread BG
indeed that's one of the nice things that ZFS is picky on data and allerts you immediatly. Before some files became corrupt and one was wondering what happend and how this was possible since everything seems fine for months :) the more i use solaris the more i love it :) This message posted

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Mario Goebbels
This knowing i will never putt non ecc memory in my boxes again. What's your mainboard and CPU? I've looked up the thread on the forum and there's no hardware information. Don't be fooled just because the RAM's ECC. The mainboard (and CPU in case of AMDs) have to support that. There are two

[zfs-discuss] zpool upgrade statistics

2008-07-28 Thread Ron Warner II
I am trying to find any statistics on the amount of time doing a upgrade from one version of ZFS to another. I recently updated my system and my zpool is showing that I need to upgrade it. I have a large pool, around 3 TB divided into 3 - 1 TB LUNS in a zraid configuration. I want to do the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-28 Thread Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi
Dear All, I will try to post DTool source code asap DTool is depend on our patented middleware, need one or two days to clarify :-P Very Sorry. Bob, I have tried your pdf but did not get good latency numbers even after array tuning... cheers tharindu Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool upgrade statistics

2008-07-28 Thread Darren J Moffat
Ron Warner II wrote: I am trying to find any statistics on the amount of time doing a upgrade from one version of ZFS to another. I recently updated my system and my zpool is showing that I need to upgrade it. I have a large pool, around 3 TB divided into 3 - 1 TB LUNS in a zraid

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool replace not working

2008-07-28 Thread Breandan Dezendorf
Marc, Thanks - you were right - I had two identical drives and I mixed them up. It's going through the resilver process now... I expect it will run all night. Breandan On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Marc Bevand wrote: It looks like you *think* you are trying to add the new drive, when

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, BG wrote: indeed that's one of the nice things that ZFS is picky on data and allerts you immediatly. Before some files became corrupt and one was wondering what happend and how this was possible since everything seems fine for months :) Unfortunately, ZFS does not

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi wrote: I have tried your pdf but did not get good latency numbers even after array tuning... Right. And since I observed only slightly less optimal performance from a mirror pair of USB drives it seems that your requirement is not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-28 Thread Mattias Pantzare
4. While reading an offline disk causes errors, writing does not! *** CAUSES DATA LOSS *** This is a big one: ZFS can continue writing to an unavailable pool. It doesn't always generate errors (I've seen it copy over 100MB before erroring), and if not spotted, this *will* cause data

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Ross wrote: TEST1: Opened File Browser, copied the test data to the pool. Half way through the copy I pulled the drive. THE COPY COMPLETED WITHOUT ERROR. Zpool list reports the pool as online, however zpool status hung as expected. Are you sure that this reference

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-28 Thread Ross Smith
File Browser is the name of the program that Solaris opens when you open Computer on the desktop. It's the default graphical file manager. It does eventually stop copying with an error, but it takes a good long while for ZFS to throw up that error, and even when it does, the pool doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-28 Thread Ross Smith
snv_91. I downloaded snv_94 today so I'll be testing with that tomorrow. Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:58:43 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which OS and revision? -- richard Ross wrote: Ok,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, BG wrote: indeed that's one of the nice things that ZFS is picky on data and allerts you immediatly. Before some files became corrupt and one was wondering what happend and how this was possible since everything seems fine for months :)

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status my_pool , shows a pulled disk c1t6d0 as ONLINE ???

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Elling
Charles Emery wrote: New server build with Solaris-10 u5/08, Can you try on a later release? The enhanced FMA for disks did not make the Solaris 10 5/08 release. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007080901/ -- richard on a SunFire t5220, and this is our first

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Richard Elling wrote: But ZFS can do better. I filed CR6674679 which basically says that if redundant copies of data have the same, wrong checksum, then ZFS should issue an e-report to that effect. This will allow you to move suspicion away from the disks as a root

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread BG
mainboard is : KFN4-DRE more info you find here : http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=9l2=39l3=174l4=0model=1844modelmenu=2 cpu: 2x opteron aMD Opteron 2350 2.0GHz HT 4MB SF memory was cheap stuff non ecc replaced it with kingston ECC mem KVR667D2D8P5/2G in the mean time we have 4x500Gb in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Richard Elling wrote: But ZFS can do better. I filed CR6674679 which basically says that if redundant copies of data have the same, wrong checksum, then ZFS should issue an e-report to that effect. This will allow you to move suspicion away from

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Richard Elling wrote: It is not clear to me where ARC validation occurs. Perhaps someone who deals with the ARC code could shed some light. More than likely, ARC data is not stored using original filesystem blocks so the existing filesystem block checksums are not

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Mario Goebbels
mainboard is : KFN4-DRE more info you find here : http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=9l2=39l3=174l4=0model=1844modelmenu=2 cpu: 2x opteron aMD Opteron 2350 2.0GHz HT 4MB SF You'll be fine with that. Just had to make sure. Regards, -mg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Mario Goebbels
We already have memory scrubbers which check memory. Actually, we've had these for about 10 years, but it only works for ECC memory... if you have only parity memory, then you can't fix anything at the hardware level, and the best you can hope is that FMA will do the right thing. In

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread Steve
Since the information obtained it seems that the better choice is ASUS M2A-VM: tested happily, enough cheap (47€), not bad performing, 4 sata, gb ethernet, dvi, firewire, ecc. The only notice was a possible DMA bug of the south bridge, but it seems not so important. (!) Now the options will

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problem mirror

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Elling
Mario Goebbels wrote: We already have memory scrubbers which check memory. Actually, we've had these for about 10 years, but it only works for ECC memory... if you have only parity memory, then you can't fix anything at the hardware level, and the best you can hope is that FMA will do the

[zfs-discuss] Adding slices from same drive to a pool

2008-07-28 Thread Ian Collins
I'd like to extend my ZFS root pool by adding the old swap and root slice left over from the previous LU BE. Are there any known issues with concatenating slices from the same drive? Cheers, Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread mike
I have built mine the last few days, and it seems to be running fine right now. Originally I wanted Solaris 10, but switched to using SXCE (nevada build 94, the latest right now) because I wanted the new CIFS support and some additional ZFS features. Here's my setup. These were my goals: -

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread Florin Iucha
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 04:13:54PM -0700, Steve wrote: Since the information obtained it seems that the better choice is ASUS M2A-VM: tested happily, enough cheap (47€), not bad performing, 4 sata, gb ethernet, dvi, firewire, ecc. The only notice was a possible DMA bug of the south bridge,

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I have built mine the last few days, and it seems to be running fine right now. Originally I wanted Solaris 10, but switched to using SXCE (nevada build 94, the latest right now) because I wanted the new CIFS support and some additional ZFS features. Here's my setup. These were my

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread mike
I would love to go back to using shuttles. Actually, my ideal setup would be: Shuttle XPC w/ 2x PCI-e x8 or x16 lanes 2x PCI-e eSATA cards (each with 4 eSATA port multiplier ports) then I could chain up to 8 enclosures off a single small, nearly silent host machine. 8 enclosures x 5 drives =

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-28 Thread Miles Nordin
mp == Mattias Pantzare [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a big one: ZFS can continue writing to an unavailable pool. It doesn't always generate errors (I've seen it copy over 100MB before erroring), and if not spotted, this *will* cause data loss after you reboot. mp

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread Willem van Schaik
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: As to cases, our experience is, unless you have good air-conditioning or have a means to nicely enclose your machine (like the BlackBox :-) ), get a box as big as your space would allow. We had enough bad experiences with mini cases, especially those Shuttle-type

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-28 Thread mike
Holy crap! That sounds cool. Firmware-based-VPN connectivity! At Intel we're getting better too I suppose. Anyway... I don't know where you're at in the company but you should rattle some cages about my idea :) This message posted from opensolaris.org