Re: [zfs-discuss] Weird performance issue with ZFS with lots of simultaneous reads

2008-05-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Chris, Thursday, May 15, 2008, 5:42:32 AM, you wrote: CS I wrote: CS | I have a ZFS-based NFS server (Solaris 10 U4 on x86) where I am CS | seeing a weird performance degradation as the number of simultaneous CS | sequential reads increases. CS To update zfs-discuss on this: after more

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using O_EXCL flag on /dev/zvol nodes

2008-05-16 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Sumit Gupta wrote: The /dev/[r]dsk nodes implement the O_EXCL flag. If a node is opened using the O_EXCL, subsequent open(2) to that node fail. But I dont think the same is true for /dev/zvol/[r]dsk nodes. Is that a bug (or maybe RFE) ? Yes, that seems like a fine RFE. Or a bug, if there's

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Danilo Poccia
Hi, using VirtualBox I just tried to move an OpenSolaris 2008.05 boot environment (ZFS) on a gzip-9 compressed dataset, but I have the following error from grub: Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure Googling around I found the same error with ZFS boot and Xen in July 2007:

[zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread andrew
What is the current estimated ETA on the integration of install support for ZFS boot/root support to Nevada? Also, do you have an idea when we can expect the improved ZFS write throttling to integrate? Thanks Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Victor Latushkin
Hi, using VirtualBox I just tried to move an OpenSolaris 2008.05 boot environment (ZFS) on a gzip-9 compressed dataset, but I have the following error from grub: Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure Googling around I found the same error with ZFS boot and Xen in July 2007:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Danilo Poccia
Hi Victor, this seems quite easy to me but I don't know how to move around to actually implement/propose the required changes. To make grub aware of gzip (as it already is of lzjb) the steps should be: 1. create a new /onnv-gate/usr/src/grub/grub-0.95/stage2/zfs_gzip.c starting from

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Version Correct

2008-05-16 Thread Kenny
I have Sun Solaris 5.10 Generic_120011-14 and the zpool version is 4. I've found references to version 5-10 on the Open Solaris site. Are these versions for Open solaris only? I've searched the SUN site for ZFS patches and found nothing (most likely operator headspace). Can I update ZFS on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread James C. McPherson
Kenny wrote: Hi! I'm new to the list and new to zfs I have the following hardware and would like opinions on implementation. Sun Enterprise T5220 FC HBA Brocade 200E 4 Gbit switch Sun 2540 FC Disk Array w/12 1TB disk drives My plan is to create a small SAN fabric with the 5220 as the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-16 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:30:27AM +0800, Robin Guo wrote: Hi, Paul At least, s10u6 will contain L2ARC cache, ZFS as root filesystem, etc.. As far as root zfs goes, are there any plans to support more than just single disks or mirrors in U6, or will that be for a later date? -brian --

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Danilo Poccia
...just noticed there is a bug on that, but it seems there no activity even if it is in state accepted: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6538017 Should I send an email to request-sponsor AT opensolaris DOT org to propose my fix? Rgrds, Danilo. Il giorno 16/mag/08, alle ore

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Danilo, Friday, May 16, 2008, 1:34:56 PM, you wrote: Hi Victor, this seems quite easy to me but I don't know how to "move around" to actually implement/propose the required changes. To make grub aware of gzip (as it already is of lzjb) the steps should be: 1. create a new

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS panics solaris while switching a volume to read-only

2008-05-16 Thread Veltror
Is there any possibility that the psarc 2007/567 can be made as a patch to Soalris 10 U5. We are planning to dispose of Veritas as quickly as possible but since all storage on production machines is on EMC Symmetrix with back-end mirroring, this panic is a showstopper for us. Or is it so

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Victor Latushkin
this seems quite easy to me but I don't know how to move around to actually implement/propose the required changes. To make grub aware of gzip (as it already is of lzjb) the steps should be: 1. create a new /onnv-gate/usr/src/grub/grub-0.95/stage2/zfs_gzip.c starting from

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello James, 2) Does anyone have experiance with the 2540? JCM Kinda. I worked on adding MPxIO support to the mpt driver so JCM we could support the SAS version of this unit - the ST2530. JCM What sort of experience are you after? I'ver never used one JCM of these boxes in production - only

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Danilo, Friday, May 16, 2008, 2:00:42 PM, you wrote: ...just noticed there is a bug on that, but it seems there no activity even if it is in state "accepted": http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6538017 Should I send an email to request-sponsor AT opensolaris DOT org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread James C. McPherson
Robert Milkowski wrote: Yeah, I do have several of them (both 2530 and 2540). 2530 (SAS) - cables tend to pop-out sometimes when you are around servers... then MPxIO does not work properly if you just hot-unplug and hot-replug the sas cable... If you plug the cable back in within 20

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Andy Lubel
On May 16, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello James, 2) Does anyone have experiance with the 2540? JCM Kinda. I worked on adding MPxIO support to the mpt driver so JCM we could support the SAS version of this unit - the ST2530. JCM What sort of experience are you after?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-16 Thread Robin Guo
Hi, Brian You mean stripe type with multiple-disks or raidz type? I'm afraid it's still single disk or mirrors only. If opensolaris start new project of this kind of feature, it'll be backport to s10u* eventually, but that's need some time to go, sounds no possibility in U6, I think. Brian

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
Robin Guo wrote: Hi, Brian You mean stripe type with multiple-disks or raidz type? I'm afraid it's still single disk or mirrors only. If opensolaris start new project of this kind of feature, it'll be backport to s10u* eventually, but that's need some time to go, sounds no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Weird performance issue with ZFS with lots of simultaneous reads

2008-05-16 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| Have you tried to disable vdev caching and leave file level | prefetching? If you mean setting zfs_vdev_cache_bshift to 13 (per the ZFS Evil Tuning Guide) to turn off device-level prefetching then yes, I have tried turning off just that; it made no difference. If there's another tunable then

[zfs-discuss] Hiding files with ZFS ACLs

2008-05-16 Thread Vincent Boisard
Hi everyone, I've been experimenting with ZFS for some time and I have one question: Is it possible to hide file with ZFS ACL ? Let me explain what I would like to do: A directory (chmod 0755) contains 3 subdirs: public, private an veryprivate public has read access to everyone (0755) private has

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot with gzip-9 compression

2008-05-16 Thread Andre Wenas
I have been using zfs boot with lzjb compression on since build 75, from time to time I had similar problem, not sure why. As best practise, I do snapshot the root filesystem frequently, so that I can rollback to the last working snapshot. Rgds, Andre W. Victor Latushkin wrote: this seems

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Kenny wrote: Sun 2540 FC Disk Array w/12 1TB disk drives It is interesting that the 2540 is available with large disks now. My desire is to create 2 5disk RAID 5 sets with one hot spare each. Then using ZFS to pool the 2 sets into one 8 TB Pool with several ZFS file

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: 3) I've read that it's best practice to create the RAID set utilizing Hardware RAID utilities vice using ZFS raidz. Any wisdom on this? You've got a whacking great cache in the ST2540, so you might as well make use of it. Exporting each disk

[zfs-discuss] ZFS sharing question.

2008-05-16 Thread Barth Weishoff
Hello. Anyone out there remember the -d option for share? How do you set the share description using the zfs set commands, or is it even possible? Thanks! -B This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] cp -p gives errors on Linux w/ NFS-mounted ZFS

2008-05-16 Thread Marcelo Leal
Hello all, I'm having the same problem here, any news? I need to use ACL's on the GNU/Linux clients. I'm using nfsv3, and on the GNU/Linux servers that feature was working, i think we need a solution for solaris/opensolaris. Now, with the dmm project, how we can start a migration process, if

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Vincent Fox
I run 3510FC and 2540 units in pairs. I build 2 5-disk RAID5 LUNs in each array, with 2 disks as global spares. Each array has dual controllers and I'm doing multipath. Then from the server I have access to 2 LUNs from 2 arrays, and I build a ZFS RAID-10 set from these 4 LUNs being sure

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Vincent Fox wrote: If/when ZFS acquires a method to ensure that spare#1 in chassis#1 only gets used to replace failed disks in chassis#1 then I'll reconsider my position. Currently though there is no mechanism to ensure this so I could easily see a spare being pulled

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
Actually, I only meant that zfs boot was integrated into build 90. I don't know about the improved write throttling. I will check into why there was no mention of this on the heads up page. Lori Andrew Pattison wrote: Were both of these items (ZFS boot install support and improved write

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
Clarifying further: the install support for zfs root file systems went into build 90, but because the current install code is closed source, the effect of that integration will not be seen until the build 90 SXCE is released. At that time, installs will show a screen that give the user an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
Install of a zfs root can only be done with the tty-based installer or with Jumpstart. I will make sure that instructions for both are made available by the time that SXDE build 90 is released. For an attractive, easy-to-use installer that is designed from the outset to install systems with zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:32:34PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: Install of a zfs root can only be done with the tty-based installer or with Jumpstart. I will make sure that instructions for both are made available by the time that SXDE build 90 is released. Will the tty or jumpstart based

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Vincent Fox
So it's pushed back to build 90 now? There was an announcement the other day that build 88 was being skipped and build 89 would be the official release with ZFS boot. Not a big deal but someone should do an announcement about the change. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread andrew
By my calculations that makes the possible release date for ZFS boot installer support around the 9th June 2008. Mark that date in your diary! Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-16 Thread Zlotnick Fred
The issues with CIFS is not just complexity; it's the total amount of incompatible change in the kernel that we had to make in order to make the CIFS protocol a first class citizen in Solaris. This includes changes in the VFS layer which would break all S10 file systems. So in a very real sense

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:32:34PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: Install of a zfs root can only be done with the tty-based installer or with Jumpstart. I will make sure that instructions for both are made available by the time that SXDE build 90 is released. Will

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-16 Thread Adam Leventhal
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:12:02PM -0700, Zlotnick Fred wrote: The issues with CIFS is not just complexity; it's the total amount of incompatible change in the kernel that we had to make in order to make the CIFS protocol a first class citizen in Solaris. This includes changes in the VFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:19:29PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: Clarifying further: the install support for zfs root file systems went into build 90, but because the current install code is closed source, the effect of that integration will not be seen until the build 90 SXCE is released. At that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:59:56PM -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: So it's pushed back to build 90 now? Evidently, but build 90 is closed, and the bits are in. The WOS images for build 90 are not out yet, but that's a matter of time; the bits are in. ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Prabahar Jeyaram
The write throttling improvement is in build 87. -- Prabahar. Lori Alt wrote: Actually, I only meant that zfs boot was integrated into build 90. I don't know about the improved write throttling. I will check into why there was no mention of this on the heads up page. Lori Andrew

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS panics solaris while switching a volume to read-only

2008-05-16 Thread Prabahar Jeyaram
The fix is already in Solaris 10 U6. A patch for S10U5 will only be available when S10U6 is released. -- Prabahar. Veltror wrote: Is there any possibility that the psarc 2007/567 can be made as a patch to Soalris 10 U5. We are planning to dispose of Veritas as quickly as possible but since

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread James C. McPherson
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: 3) I've read that it's best practice to create the RAID set utilizing Hardware RAID utilities vice using ZFS raidz. Any wisdom on this? You've got a whacking great cache in the ST2540, so you might as well make use of it.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: 3) I've read that it's best practice to create the RAID set utilizing Hardware RAID utilities vice using ZFS raidz. Any wisdom on this? You've got a whacking great cache in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Sun Disk arrays - Opinions?

2008-05-16 Thread James C. McPherson
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008, James C. McPherson wrote: 3) I've read that it's best practice to create the RAID set utilizing Hardware RAID utilities vice using ZFS raidz. Any wisdom on this? You've got a

[zfs-discuss] openSolaris ZFS root, swap, dump

2008-05-16 Thread Paul B. Henson
Historically I've used hardware raid1 for the boot disks on my servers. With the availability of ZFS root, I want to explore making the two underlying drives directly available to the operating system and create a ZFS mirror to avail of error detection and self-healing. The current openSolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] openSolaris ZFS root, swap, dump

2008-05-16 Thread Richard Elling
Paul B. Henson wrote: Historically I've used hardware raid1 for the boot disks on my servers. With the availability of ZFS root, I want to explore making the two underlying drives directly available to the operating system and create a ZFS mirror to avail of error detection and self-healing.